bakari sellers has been a friend of mine for probably 15 years now. he's a very, i think, by anyone's standard, progressive commentator on cnn. >> i didn't think he was progressive. [laughs] >> for south carolina, he's pretty progressive. but, i have never had a crossword. we've just decided, friendship. look, he is never going to vote for me, but then again he should not. he shouldn't vote for me, and i shouldn't vote for him. but, you can get along with someone, and you can't support them. something happened to him recently, and i texted him, and i said, i am thinking about you. he's made the mistake of supporting me publicly, which was a dumb thing for him to do. but he did it anyway. pick people that you think are worthy of your trust as opposed to institutions. >> yeah, i do wonder on this point, so much of our national political dialogue is being driven by media outlets that are either new york or d. c. based. and you're seeing local press, even in metropolitan areas, especially in rural areas, local press around the country, really taking the s