[laughter]. >> and, i had seen some of senator baker's photographs up at the baker center for public policy, at the university of tennessee which i would recommend all of you visiting and you will see a great collection of photographs, so when the baker-donaldson law firm called and said we'd be interested in showing senator baker's pictures in your museum we jumped at the chance and i know president carter was very excited about it and you will see that this is a journey well worth making to see those photographs. and we hope you will take advantage of that. i normally was not planning to recognize people in the audience, because it is a very distinguished audience across the board but first lady rosalynn carter is with us today and georgia senator david gambrelle is with us today and a special privilege, nicholas bar leta, the former president of panama is with us today, and we're very happy to have him with us. [applause]. >> so let's get to the topic and talk about bipartisanship and we'll talk with the 19 0s and people think we will have nothing to talk about if we talk about bi

so when the baker law firm called up and said we would be interested in showing senator baker's pictures in your museum, we jumped at the chance. i know president carter was very excited about it. and you'll see that this is a journey well worth making to see those photographs. and we hope you will take advantage of that. i normally was not planning to recognize people in the audience because it's a very distinguished audience across the board. but first lady rosalynn carter is with us today. georgia senator david is with us today. and also a special privilege, nicholas barletta, the president of panama is with us today. and we are very happy to have him today. [applause] >> so let's get to the topic and talk about bipartisanship it will start in the 1970s because some people don't think will have anything to talk about if we talk about bipartisanship today. [laughter] >> but we will. but going back to 1977, both the gentlemen here were sort of new to the office. senator baker had been elected by the republican caucus to head the party in the senate. it was a close vote. i think we will

richard baker. mr. baker served as the first historian of the u.s. senate, beginning with the establishment of the u.s. historical office in 1975 and continuing until 2009. during his career, mr. baker served under nine senate majority leaders, five democrats, for republicans, one of which was senator bob dole. mr. baker and senator dole share a history together that began in 1987 when they partner on a project celebrating the bicentennial of the united states senate. beginning on the first day of the 100th congress, senator dole delivered a short historical vignettes written by mr. baker and his staff highlighting the significant people, unusual customs, and memorable events associated with the senate over the first two centuries. mr. baker's devotion to history is evident in his building of the office, as the first to made great strides in protecting and maintaining records, recording oral histories, cataloging and reserving photographs that document now activities. not content to merely preserve history, mr. baker worked to make the history more a

baker's devotion to history is evident. he maintained records, published histories, and kept photographs related to all activity. he worked to make that history more accessible to the american public through which content presented on the website, in a congressional office building, by appearing on c-span, and most importantly, through a tireless from senators, their staff, reporters, historians, student, and even a tourist visiting congress for the very first half congress for the very first half ti

let's start with a question for richard baker. we have one right man -- we have one right here. pleased to wait for the microphones. >> what is the history of the cloture rule? >> that is the $64,000 question. and i restrain myself from giving you an extended answer, because you could, for short. when was the first filibuster in the senate? i think the first filibuster took place about a week after they arrived in 1789, when one of the issues was, where is the permanent capital of the united states to be located. people favoring philadelphia or harrisburg had not arrived yet. so the partisans of harrisburg in the senate said that they would delay discussion until these guys' stagecoaches manage to bring them here. the very first rules of the senate did have a role that could cut off debate aired the senate never used that role, and eventually they just like it out. senators prided themselves on being different from the house of representatives. you only had up to 40 at one time, and everyone had a chance to speak and feel better about getting things off their chest. when it came

louis powell would, of course, be nominated, but howard baker is dithering. he can't decide whether he wants to go on the court or not. howard baker, for listeners who might have forgotten, was the minority leader of the senate, a fairly young minority leader at that, and somebody who nixon thought would make a good justice and probably would have. but we later learned that baker he had kids he had to put through college, he was worried about the finances of a job like that which doesn't, still doesn't pay well, it's a real sacrifice for a lot of men to go on the high court. so i had suggested rehnquist to dick moore. dick moore happens to go in and get into a conversation with nixon who at this point is holding this very close to the chest. and so rehnquist, the name gets thrown in, and while he's been thinking about it, it's not until richard moore mentioned something i'd mentioned to moore, that rehnquist had clerked as a law clerk for robert jackson. roobt jackson is a great justice by any partisan's definition whether you're republican or democrat. nixon

baker there at the time. >> well police say somebody tried to rob baker, three days before he was killed. but they do not know if that incident was related to his killing. >> controversy over internet access in schools. is heating up. and now lawyers and lawmakers are getting involved. harford county schools have a filtering system that blocks inappropriate content like pornography. but the a.c.l.u. complained that it restricted access to websites promoting lesbian and transgender issues. so the school lifted the filter. now parents and 1 state delegate are calling on officials to resume restrictions. >> the school system rolled over and said we will unlock the sites. that's wrong. and parents have a right to know what children are exposed to. >> now the a.c.l.u. said it got involved at the request of some students, that are members of the gay, straight alliance club. >> lawmakers are resuming debate this week on whether to impose more restriction on using cell phones. while driving. the senate has already passed a bill that would ban the use of hand-held cell phones while driving. but i

all the sudden, it was open to new management, as howard baker joke. he walked up to the democratic leader, robert byrd, and made a deal. i will never surprise you if you do not surprise me. and senator byrd said, that is a good basis for cooperation. and senator dole became majority leader a couple of years later, and they extended that agreement in 1985. so it is essential, and that the relations between the two leaders are not good, then everybody is in trouble. >> what is the relationship between majority leader reid and minority leader mcconnell? >> you think that it would be tense. if you read the newspaper articles -- two years ago, senator reid did something that was rather significant. at the university of louisville, there is a mitch mcconnell center for the stubble -- for the study of public policy. they had an unveiling theire so senator reid interrupted his other duties, and attended the event. it was an enormously busy time and center, never forgot that -- and senator mcconnell never forgot that. beneath it all, there is a sense that we a

but it was supported by mitchell but then by daschle, dole and baker. it has elements that are common to both the house and the senate, but and are both a democrat and republican. they sort of came to the table and put everything on the table. senator negative all agreed to the limitation on the tax treatment of health insurance benefits. he agreed to a number of other professions. no public plan. he agreed to allow insurance to be purchased across state lines. senator dole and baker agreed to require individuals to have coverage but no mandates on business. they agreed to a number of preventive services. they agreed to a variety of things that recently exposed all of them to the opposite points of view but he essentially was a package that would have made major improvements. they did all the insurance reforms, guaranteed issue, no pre-existing conditions, things of that nature. expansion of medicaid, limited changes to the medicare program. both expansions as well as constraints. again it's been out there. obama has referred to a number of times. they

baker's devotion to history is evident. he maintained records, published histories, and kept photographs re

but we later learned that baker had kids he had to put through college. he was worried about the finances of the job like that which still doesn't pay well. it's a real sacrifice for a lot of men to go on the high court. so, i had suggested rehnquist to dick moore who happens to get into a conversation with nixon, who at this point is holding it very close to the chest. and so rehnquist -- the naim gets thrown in. and while he's been thinking about it is not until richard moore mentioned, i mentioned something to rehnquist that he had clerked for a law clerk for robert jackson. robert jackson is a great justice by any partisan definition whether republican or democrat. nixon recognized that. that seemed to close the deal through suddenly now he's not very interested in the eckert. then when he learns that rehnquist they thought was number two and moore had that wrong. he was number one in his class and nixon had been beat up for some of the people he suggested along the way. so, that's -- the was a fascinating story to together how rehnquist did get the n

baker presents more paperwork. again i was covering secretary baker at this time and none of us knew about this, it was all done in secret. fortunately there were taking notes during all these discussions and preserved a lot of the papers and finally if you recall secretary baker and foreign minister met and it was august 1990 and i have a the talking points which was awfully preserved and i've interviewed secretary baker and he took that as talking points and said, we have no biological weapons and he proposed a confidence-building measure in exchange for visits. this kind of coverup continued through 1990 in exchange of visits and exchange happened. the american experts came home, more suspicious than ever that there was a biological weapons program. so this kind of back-and-forth went on all through 1991 and the end of gorbachev's time and raises an important question. in all of the his struggles for disarmament in his determination to push back the military and powerful designs and willingness to abandon the ou

. >> they think schafer could be the next jeff baker. that says a lot since baker tied andy to left field. green was national player to have year. here is the 3-0 from esmonde. and tied with the fastball. that is the 3rd, 4-pitch walk we have had in this inning. >> esmonde would rather take a chance. he didn't want to give in to john hinson at that point. here is the multifaceted will lamb, playing 1st base right now. because shaffer is out. one of the startingwichers on the -- starting pitchers on the weekend, with a record .360 e.r.a. and esmonde missed the strike zone. >> clemson has such a plus in collegiate baseball, will you are fighting the draft twice, parker is a freebie on a football scholarship, and lamb can both hit and pitch. >> yes. >>> 1-1 to will lamb. i think that is a trend we will see more and more. coach wills try to take advantage of that more and more. find a guy that can play position, that can also pitch for you as well. two player in the one. >> probably one of the best 2- way players in clemson. that ball is hit

baker. so this money gets channelled into just vital vital things that are related to the campaign. >> let's talk a little bit, kelly about, that emotional support and how critical it is for parents and families in general. you said during the break, it was terrifying for you at first. i can imagine. how important, these nick cues, how important are they to families? >> they're critical obviously and, of course, to the child. but the nick cue is an interesting place. it's full of sounds and smells and a lot of it is the fear that we feel and that's how, whenever i hear a sound that is like, you know, a beep that i go heard on one of the manors it brings me right back or the smell of alcohol or something. it's terrifying. in the midst of all this melee is this child that is your child. the fear just drives us. so it's really very hard and there's so much uncertainty and they have a honeymoon period when they're born. they do very well for a couple days and can just fall off. it's very, very f

or the last couple of weeks or referenced the proposal that senator dole and tom daschle and howard baker and george mitchell put together. we worked on it over a year ago. we released it last june. it has the support of all four of them, although mitchell had got off to solve the middle east. . . new mandates on business. they agreed to a number of preventive services, to a variety of things that essentially expose all of them to the opposite points of view. but essentially was a package that would have made major improvements. they did all the insurance reforms, some expansion of medicaid, some changes to the medicare program, both expansions as well as constraints. again, it has been out there. obama has referred to it a number of times. i have met with people on the house and senate side. there is some suggestion, and my guess is the three may do another op-ed piece. suggesting everyone stand down, back, and come back together, open-minded to changes. but the three of them were able to once again, across those barriers. >> one of the things that amazes me that i would like to ask you

baker says the decision to expand offshore drilling does just the opposite.e studio, linda sow, abc2 news. >>> and we want to know what you think about this. we want your two cents. do you agree with expanded offshore drilling, despite environmental concerns for maryland? go to our homepage and click on the poll. >>> police are looking for a fourth suspect in a drive by shooting in southeast washington, d.c. that left four people dead and hurt five others. all over a stolen bracelet. three suspects in custody. one of them a 14-year-old boy who drove the car. one of the suspects could have been behind bars last week, but police didn't have enough evidence to arrest him. >> i'm a police officer, i'm frustrated when i can't take somebody off the street when i want to take them off the street. >> community neighbors and leaders had a candlelight vigil last night. >>> also new this morning: police are looking into who shot a 17-year-old in the face in west baltimore. the shooting happened around 3:30 yesterday afternoon in the 2,000 block of harlem avenue. officer

office of baker donaldson. he has taught constitutional law at georgetown university since 1999, and has served on several boards, including the capital hospice foundation and the lawyers committee of the national city and state courts, and the supreme court historical society. he knew i would get that in somewhere. he is the director of the administrative office of the united states courts. just so there is no confusion, the man immediately to my left is justice breyer, the man in the middle is the moderator, and a man on the far left is justice scalia. [laughter] why did you laugh? >> i cannot see them, and that means they cannot see me. i was (over there -- conferring over there so we can move the show up to the bench. [laughter] [applause] >> lest you mistakenly assigned responsibility for the seating arrangement, let me tell you that my wife said to me nobody would be able to see them. i said to the person running the show, and nobody is going to be able to see them. she said, yes they will. jennifer, you

debt is because they know that debt's going to pay off. >> reporter: baker believes america's absolute power is still intact for now. >> when i was treasury secretary, everybody was writing that japan inc. was going to take over the world. america was in permit decline. >> reporter: you think we're in the same situation now, people talking about america's decline? >> no, i don't think it's going to happen, provided-- one big proviso-- that we deal with this debt bomb. >> reporter: and if we don't? >> then it might happen. >> reporter: the u.s. remains the most important single power in the world but in just the time it took for you to watch this report, its nocial debt grew by nearly $18 million. lara logan, cbs news, washington. >> couric: in brazil, the government says as many as 200 people were buried alive in mudslides this week in and around rio de janeiro. rescue teams were still searching for survivors today on hillsides littered with debris. 171 people are confirmed dead. the mudslides were triggered by the heaviest rain rio has seen in 40 years. meanwhile, the earth is having

when howard baker became the majority leader in 1981, no one saw that coming. i remember where i was when i heard it. all of a sudden, there was new management. howard baker walked up to robert byrd, the democratic leader who was pretty upset about losing the majority, and he said, i will make you a deal. i will never surprise you if you never surprise me. senator byrd decided that was a good basis for operation. when dole became the leader a couple of years later, they extended that agreement between senator byrd and senator dole. it is essential. if the relations between the two leaders are not good, then everybody is in trouble. >> what is the relationship between majority leader harry reid and republican mitch mcconnell? >> you would expect that it would be tense. two years ago, senator harry reid did something that was rather significant, at least in the mind upon mitch mcconnell. at the university of lowell, there is a mitch mcconnell as the -- at the university of louisville, there is a mitch mcconnell center for the study of public policy. an event was

. >> kermit baker chief economist for the institute of architects. nice to have you on the program. thank you so much for joining us. according to the aia's latest survey, renovations are making a big comeback. is that how you see it? and why is that? >> well, renovations are a $250 billion industry, according to our estimates. that's down a bit from its peak, but it's bigger than the housing market now and for a lot of good reasons, i think. the housing market, new construction is having a lot of problems. so folks are turning to renovations as a way to avoid having to buy and sell homes in this market. >> now, prices as far as your average home out there, are they still too high? do prices still come down? >> no. i think prices relative to incomes is about where they have been historically. they've adjusted pretty much -- in most markets pretty fully. >> not necessarily buying a house that's an issue because prices have come down. but obviously selling your own house could be an issue and getting a mortgage is tough. >> no. selling a house in this market is difficult. credit is st

as it was, buy overriding these things baker says he didn't make a promise, but the record is it was not exactly a promise but it was a statement nato wouldn't move its jurisdiction to the east and that is a complicated question of the way that gorbachev understood and i will say as the american ambassador if i'd been asked what the policy was i would have made that clear because there was my understanding that the policy of the time. it did not occur that we would ever consider in our interest to move the structure, the military structure of nato to the east particularly when there was no pact. but they are right that was not a legal thing but it was a political understanding which it had been abided by it would have made it less likely that you would have had a more aggressive nationalistic russia in the 21st century. >> host: it seems to me what you're saying now and you said some of it in your book is it was not just the nato expansion, not just first round, it wasn't just u.s. position on serbia, it was a combination of things that created the impression in russia and across the

and the first time it was used was by senator baker with the help of a guy named marty go uld, that guy most of the reagan things passed by a simple majority. can you comment on that? and i would make a comment on that, i think in recent years the center most interested in the history is robert c. byrd, and i suspect that he has given you a lot of support in the years. >> we have work with him a a lot. his interest in history is typical -- while his interest and history of the senate has cancer -- unsurpassed by any other member, to be sure. and not just journeymen senators, they have to look and have the broader perspective and that often turn to history of the senate to get a sense of all fat. -- all of that. reconciliation, you mentioned robert gold, and you have to care about senate procedure, but he is the master, a very bright guy who is taken on some tough assignments, and howard baker was lucky to have him. he basically turn reconciliation on its head. there reason for reconciliation was to reconcile differences between expenditures and tax receipts, and it was a minor matter to

as it was, buy overriding fees things baker says that he didn't make a promise but that the record is it was not exactly a promise but a was a statement that nato would move its jurisdiction even 1 inch to the east and that's a complicated question but that's the way gorbachev understood. all i will say as the american ambassador if i had been asked what our policy was i would have made that very clear because that was my understanding of the policy of the time. it just did not occur to us that we would ever consider in our interest to move the structure, some of the infrastructure of nato to the east particularly when there was no pact. but they are right that was not a legal thing that was a political understanding, which if it had been abided by would have made it less likely that he would have had a more aggressive nationalistic russia in the 21st century. >> it seems to me that what you are saying now and you said some of it in your book is that it was not just the nato expansion particularly not just the first round of expansion. it wasn't just u.s. position on serbia. it was a

conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> former president jimmy carter and former senator howard bakerrticipated in a forum last month on how bipartisanship can be fostered in the current political climate. they spoke to a group at the carter presidential library in atlanta. this is 40 minutes. good morning, ladies and gentlemen. i am tony clark from the carter presidential library and museum. i want to welcome you here to what i think will be a fascinating conversation. so please, join me in welcoming jay hakes, president jimmy carter and our special guest, senator howard baker. [applause] [applause] [laughter]

howard baker, lewis powell, nominated and howard baker, and the minority leader.airly young, nixon would make good justice and probably would. the kids put through college and the financees, it was on the high court. and put into a conversation with nixon close to the chest. it is not until richard more mentioned he was a law clerk for robert jackson, robert jackson is a great justice bite any partisan's definition whether you are republican or democrat. nixon recognized that. that seemed to close the deal. he is not very interested in baker and when he learns that thought was number 2, had that wrong, he was number one. nixon had been beat up for some of the people he suggested a long way. that was a fascinating story to put together how he got the nomination. the problem with the book at the end of the book is william rehnquist never vetted for the job and that created its own set of problems. >> you or somebody else describe him as a clown based on -- >> that is nixon. a much earlier situation. after the pentagon papers were released it brought to nixon's mind

baker. he's somebody i hold in minimum high respect because he's not a terribly solid journalist. so i'll just leave it at that. >> host: next is marion from erie, colorado. go ahead, please. >> caller: hi, good morning. this is a wonderful program and thanks to you both. i have a specific question, and it has today with the watergate tapes and specifically a moment -- and i've only read the transcripts, so i'm asking mr. dean to flesh out this moment. where my picture, at least, is that president nixon is sitting on one side of the desk and mr. dean is sitting on the other. and the president twice says, you realize that if one person tells this story, the whole thing could come down. and mr. dean says, yes, i know that. and the president reiterates this, and mr. dean says again, i'm aware of that or words to that effect. it's been a while since i read it. and i'm wondering if at that moment, in that moment of conversation whether you had the sense that he knew it was you or whether you knew and he didn't that it was going to be you? [laughter] and it's just such a shakespeare yan

. >> baker. >> baker was like the older brother i never had. >> andy is way outside the bar. >>> lete welcome back our guests. remi spencer, criminal defense attorney. if charm was a treasure, i would life for that booty. and he is so sharp he sleeps on a dart board. and john gibson, the host of "the john gibson show." he knows the radio like i know spaghetti owes. i once spent a weekend in the hampton with chef-boy-ar-dee. >>> she has more guts than the world full of guts. a saudi housewife called out muslim extremists for the whack jobs they are, and she did it on live tv. the mother of four bashed the muslim etch prooers in the form of a poem for, quote, frightening people and preying on people who want peace. it happened on an "other than idol" style show. contestants read original work for a live audience and a judge's panel. have a look. >> that was pretty cool. i have no idea what was going on there. the result, a spot in the show's final round, but death threats on the website. moving on to the finals, "business card samurai." >> that is gonna get you a date to the prom. john

dean to comment on family secrets by russell baker where he reiterates the charges in the lawsuit. copyright 2009 book that he is going to bring suit against him too. >> guest: mr. baker is someone i hold in minimum high respect because he is not a terribly solid journalist so i will leave it at that. >> caller: this is a wonderful program. i have a specific question that has to do with the watergate tapes and specifically a moment to read the transcripts and i am asking mr. dean to flesh out this moment. and president nixon is on one side of the desk and the president twice said you don't realize if one person tells this story the whole thing could come down and mr. deane says yes, i know that and the president reiterated this and mr. deane says again i am aware of that. or words to that effect. i am wondering in that moment of conversation whether you had the sense that he knew it was you or whether you knew and he didn't that it was going to be you. it is such a shakespearean dramatic moment and i will hang up. >> caller: >> guest: without listening to that segment it would be h

then, a look at senate history but the senate historian richard baker.fter that, another chance to see "q&a" with all the michael lewis. >> tomorrow, on "washington journal," clark kent ervin talks about the no-fly list. representative don edwards talks about democratic efforts to target open house seats in 2010. william minnix looks at the correct need for long-term care.

look who is 80 years old next week, and james baker. dinner and dancing, you are invited for $1,000. money from the tickets will benefit his policy institute. we have a title for president george w. bush's book. decision points. ladies first. the former first lady has her memoir, spoken from the heart. mrs. bush with her daughters will be on all brother day before publication, not a bad way to launch a book. have a good weekend, and we will have another look next week. >> and northern virginia nonprofit organization has two new programs to help children in the area. i was privileged to emcee the luncheon. they provide take-home food on the weekends for low-income children and new clothing for elementary school children. >> i know they appreciate you being there. >> of being out there, especially on such a gorgeous day. >> it will be wonderful the rest of the weekend -- the west of the evening. the weekend will go down hill. looking back across the city, temperatures around 70, the low 70's in many areas. we will continue for several hou

baker says, every time i go there, day do something to offend us. and it's been happening systemically for decade. i think it's worthwhile for the israeli public to realize that the united states doesn't like this sort of thing. and in the past, two american presidents who have made their displeasure clear, president clinton at the time that netanyahu was president in '98, and president bush, the -- 41, george herbert walker bush, over the issue of loan guarantees made it clear that the united states had differences with israel over some things, and the israeli public, in time, came around to realizing that maybe these weren't such good prime ministers. that israel needs good relations. and that was part of the 1992 election result and part of the '98 election result that brought barack to power. >> well, we're not living in '92 or '99 with barack. i would say to you that the real template is the camp david accords of the egyptian/israeli peace. both zoth and baygan could go back to their publics and say, we won. i got something from this kind of de

as it was, by overriding the stands, now baker says that he didn't make a promise, but the record ist was not exactly a promise but it was a statement that nato would not move its jurisdiction even 1 inch of the use and that's a complicated question that that's the way gorbachev understood. i will say is the american ambassador, if i had been asked what our policy was i would have made that very clear because that was why understanding of our policy at the time. it adjusted not occur to ask that if we would ever consider interest to move the structure, the military structure of nato to the east particularly when there was no warsaw pact, but they're right and that was not a legal thing that it was a political understand and which if it had been abided by would have made it less likely that you would have had a more aggressive nationalistic russia in the 21st century. >> host: this seems to me that what you are saying now and you said some of it in your book is it was not just nato expansion particularly in the first round of nato expansion, it wasn't just u.s. position on serbia, it

but then by daschle, dole and baker. it has elements that are common to both the house and the senate. and are both democrat and republican. they sort of came to the table. and put everything on the table. senator daschle agreed to the limitation on the tax treatment of health insurance benefits. he agreed to a number of other provisions. no public plan. he agreed to allow insurance to be purchased across state lines. senator dole and baker agreed to requiring individuals to have coverage but no mandates on business. they agreed to a number of preventive services. they agreed to a variety of things that essentially exposed all of them to the opposite points of view. but essentially was a package that would have made major improvements. they did all the insurance reforms, guarantee issue, no preexisting conditions, things of that nature. some expansion of medicaid. limited some changes to the medicare program. both expansions as well as constraints. again, it's been out there -- obama has referred to it a number of times.

and the automobile bakers, not the banks. >> the democrats needed to. they need a record going into the november elections. they are on the ballot. president obama is not on the ballot for two more years. he would like to see a democratic losses fell to a minimum but no one is talking democratic losses fell to a minimum but no one is talking about a democratic where will the energy come from to move us forward? from natural sources in abundant supply? or perhaps a manmade source. at nrg, we believe innovation will solve our energy needs. that's why nrg is moving away from fossil fuels... towards wind, solar, and other sustainable technologies... to power the smart grid, the electric car and our clean energy future. we're using all of our energy, to develop more of it. >> just 50 pounds of high purity uranium smaller than a soccer ball could destroy the downtown of all our capital cities and killed tens if not hundreds of thousands of individuals. >> we face a cruel irony in history. the risk of a nuclear confrontation between nations has gone down. but

it was jim baker in the white house that finally got a conclusion reached so that we could address social security. to get to that point, that point being where we have a recommendation, both republicans and democrats have to come to the table without preconditions. we can't rule out any solution. on the review knew or the spending side. we can't give in to the temptation to turn this into the subject of demigodry or attack ads. quite frankly, i was business disappointed that leader bainer made this report prior to the election. fit did so it would become the object of politics in september and october and every member would be asked to sign a pledge that we will not cut this, we will not cut that, we won't do anything. and too many of us would have signed such a pledge. in -- inevitably we'll have to look at both cuts and revenues to begin a realistic reduction of the gar began chaun debt that confronts us. our options may include raising the retirement age and might also make social security benefits more progressive. a number of my colleagues don't like that when i say that. but those

before the iraq war, "desert storm," james baker called outta reek aziz and says if you use biological or chemical weapons on our troops, we will use everything on you, and they didn't use those particular weapons. secondly, eisenhower, 1953 sent word to the chinese, you stop the war in korea or we take the lid off the weapons we use. we got a truce in six months. third, 1958, war in the taiwan strait, eisenhower says shut it down or it's gonna go up the stairs. in other words, threatening the possible use of atomic weapons, and he made peace all three times. these subtle or hidden threats worked, and he's given up our ambiguity. >> you get the point about ambiguity? he surrendered ambiguity and that's a strategic ambiguity. >> we live in a different world. we don't live in a bipolar world where we worry about some soviet general launching a weapon from mining. we're waried about some terrorist group. what this president is looking for is more certainty, clearer rules, more engagement with countries around the world. that is what this posture review is telegraphing. the purpose of nucl

it is all about the ash or the ashalator as jamie baker is calling it.irst of all, delta airlines, though, their shares are higher this morning after the company said despite the volcanic eruption and disruption that it expects to post a profit in the current quarter. that forecast reports with jpmorgan's baker is telling clients in research note, for all the media attention to the ongoing flight cancellations especially over in europe, baker points out that for the domestic carriers, transatlantic revenue makes up a small part of their top line. a roughly estimated $100 million in direct u.s. losses from this situation. continental has the highest percentage of revenue at risk. usair the lowest. there is all the merger talk in the sector as well. stephan padrazi will have more on "squawk on the street" and a live report from paris and that's your "real time flash". >>> citigroup meeting now in new york. citi shares have been really right around that $5 per share level, which is so key. both for getting on margin to short and big investors buying it to b

. >> but james baker. >> except in europe. >> james baker told the foreign minister of iraq if they use chemical or biological weapons on our troops and "desert storm" we would retaliate with nuclear weapons about. he took him out of the meeting -- >> how about the cyber attack part of this? >> to have a cyber attack you need a nuclear weapon in the other side because the cyber attack -- i mean on the top -- >> she said if what he get hit with this cyber attack get struck by nuclear. >> the attack in the atmosphere? >> no, no, she's talking about cyber attack? >> if they hack into your computer. >> if somebody hacks into your computers would strike with nuclear weapons. >> i don't think i would strike with nuclear weapons if they hacked into my computer, no. >> i guess i don't get this, ron. there's an urgency in her voice that isn't matched by the strategic thinking here, i don't think. >> no. >> but anyway. >> nuclear weapons have been used twice in all of history and we're not eager to use them again. and no, we're not going to nuke somebody just because they hacked into our computer

you were very popular, president reagan was popular, george shultz was popular, secretary baker was popular and there was a feeling that the united states was a forceful good in the world and that the united states was a special friend of the soviet union as long as the soviet union wanted to have space reforms and wanted to be a benign presence on global affairs. as you know it's a little more complicated now in terms of american and russia. what does the american and russia in your view today and what happened as a deteriorated? >> guest: one of the things in my book is the policies in the 90's have and then continuing through the second bush administration have conveyed to the russians perhaps inadvertently not conveyed we consider them enemies, we don't consider them equal even when they were supporting all of our policies. they were mistaken policies at that whole time which have been understood in russia as being hostile therefore we now have a situation that we have difficulty finding of the common interests which are out there of the two countries, and i think that the obama adminis

it was jim baker and the white house that got a conclusion reached so we could address social security. to get to that point, both republicans and democrats that point being we have a recommendation to put on the floor on the house and the senate, republicans and democrats have to come to the table without pre-conditions and can't rule out any solution. on the revenue or the spending side. we can't give into the temptation to turn this challenge into the subof demagog erie. i was disappointed that leader boehner made the suggestion that this commission report prior to the election. if it did so, it would simply become the object of politics in september and october and every member would be asked to sign a pledge that we will not cut this, we will not cut that, won't raise this tax, we won't do anything. and too many of us would have signed such a pledge. may inclu raising the retirement age and might also make social security benefits more progressive. a number of my colleagues don't like that when i say that. but those who are doing very well cannot expect to get what the very needy

smith international, which schlumberger is buying, weatherford, and baker hughes all rallied. it also helped that oil prices rallied to $85 a barrel. many companies have been detailing their costs to conform with the new health care law. drug maker merck says the law will cost it more than a half billion dollars through the end of next year. but that comes as a relief that it's not a larger number. the law cuts into drug sales by requiring drug makers to give bigger discounts for medicare and medicaid patients. merck led the way higher for the dow. microsoft was the biggest percentage loser after its earnings call last night. the stock saw very heavy volume. another dow stock turned in its financial report card today. results were very disappointing for traveler's insurance, missing estimates by 15 cents. the earthquake in chile and east coast winter storms took their toll. the stock dropped a little less than 1% but on heavier volume. an old stock name is seeing some new life. xerox has long been known for its copier business, but it's been trying to remake itself into a more

and another chance to hear about senate history from senate historian richard baker. a discussion on conservatism and the new capitalism, and a look at what free market systems must do to survive in today's global economy. that is today at 5:30 on c-span.

. >> peter baker and... >> a couple of others but you were not covering it at the time. you were watching it and talking about it but you were not writing a regular newspaper column for it. >> in fact that was one of the things i wanted to accomplish, is i knew from working on other projects, that the impeachment of andrew johnson people are still writing about 100 years later and some of the best accounts were written by people who lived through it. i wanted to write the book, most of the people that you referred to, peter baker wrote primarily about the impeachment and jim stewart, whitewater and there are books about paula jones and the monica lewinsky piece and no once had the whole story and showed how it was interconnected and no one really got access to both sides. that is what i wanted to document i wanted to be able to talk to both sides. this was something that really as you know, because you lived through it, consumed the country like nothing other than in our life times, perhaps, watergate an nixon's ultimate resignation and disgrace and the assassination of

a case from 1905, where new york state passed a law that said there was a maximum number of hours bakersork. and this is the court struck that down as a violation of the right to contract of these poor immigrant bakers. and you know, i mean, the court as an engine of uncontrolled capitalism. i mean, that certainly might -- >> no, you think him a whole that's absolutely right. and in 1918 you have the hammer decision which overturns a federal ban on child labor to such an extent that it seems that the only solution is to ban child labor by constitutional amendment, which is an effort that picks up steam assorted guys awake. they can pass the amendment again. >> former question from this gentleman here. wait for the microphone. >> i was in college in 1937. [applause] and i'm still here. and to round out what you said, there wasn't just roosevelt, there was hugh elon, there was father cogley and, there was townsend, there were all kinds of nuts running around with political theories. and roosevelt had to take that into consideration. >> well, i thank you for that comment. that's absolutely

i am the baker fellow and director of the gulf and energy policy program here. it also falls to me today to share this session. it is one of those curious occasions when i am also a speaker so i hope i will get the balance right. if i have to disagree with any aspect of myself. with me today to address this important topic of too little too late nuclear security in the middle east, gregory schulte and george perkovich. gregory schulte is currently the senior visiting fellow at the national defense university center for the study of weapons of mass destruction. there is no way you can get that on one line. from 2005 to 2009 he served as u.s. permanent representative at the international atomic energy agency in vienna. george perkovich who i had the honor of listening to this morning as he was at his endowment is the vice-president for studies and director of the nuclear policy program for the endowment for international peace. he has done a lot of work over the years on nuclear issues and he wrote a very good book on india many years ago which i referred to frequ

white house and off peter baker writes. legacies like bush, reagan and maybe obama and clinton noting president obama has taken up many unfinished agenda items of president clinton. things he couldn't get through in congress. on the issue of don't ask, don't tell, economic stimulus bill. clinton could not get done but president obama has done. guest: one is, society takes time to adjust. a new generation comes in and they have different views. i think had president clinton not raised the issue of homosexuality and gays in the military and by implication, same sex marriage. obama might have not had the foothold he has today to move it forward. in one sense, he's bringing some policies of the clinton administration to fruition and one has to the bush administration too, as president bush and secretary paulson and the talk funds to save businesses too big to fail because of the impact they had on the american economy. but one also has to say if president obama has a hero, if there's someone he looks as the great american presi