baker gorbachev another direct evidence found in the british archives.t the national a document from 1991 was discovered in the uk archives, in which representatives of western countries declared the unacceptability of such a step. the document was discovered by a professor at boston university, joshua shifrinson. before. it was kept secret. it was drawn up as a result of a meeting of representatives of the foreign political departments of the usa great britain france germany on march 6, 1991. we made it clear to the soviet union at the two plus four talks, as well as at other negotiations, that we did not intend to benefit from the withdrawal of soviet troops from eastern europe nato should not expand to the east. not formally, not informally. these are the words of us representative raymond seitz. from the same document. in the same place, the german representative said that the alliance would not expand beyond the oder river in connection with which they could no longer offer nato membership. the promise did not last long. in 1994 , brussels initiated

baker gorbachev another direct evidence found in the british archives.tional archives great britain was discovered a document of 1991, in which representatives of western countries declared the unacceptability of such a step the document was discovered by a professor at boston university, joshua shifrinson. before. it was kept top secret. it was drawn up following a meeting of representatives of the foreign policy departments of the united states of america great britain france of the federal republic of germany in bon on march 6, 1991. we made it clear to the soviet union at the two plus four talks, as well as at other negotiations, that we did not intend to benefit from the withdrawal of soviet troops from eastern europe nato should not expand to the east. not formally, not informally. these are the words of us representative raymond seitz. from the same document. in the same place, the german representative said that the alliance would not expand beyond the oder river in connection with which they could no longer offer nato membership. the promise did

baker gorbachev another direct evidence found in the british archives at the national a document fromhich representatives of western countries declared the unacceptability of such a step. the document was discovered by boston university professor joshua shifrinson. before. it was kept secret. it was drawn up following a meeting of representatives of the foreign policy departments of the united states great britain france germany on march 6. 1991. we made it clear to the soviet union during the negotiations. 2 + 4 and also in other negotiations that we do not intend to benefit from the withdrawal of soviet troops from eastern europe nato should not expand to the east. informally or informally. these are the words of us representative raymond seitz. from the same document, in the same place, the german representative stated that the alliance would not expand beyond the oder river in connection with which they could no longer offer nato membership. the promise did not last long in 1994 in washington. brussels initiated the entry into nato of almost everything in the soviet bloc , if the

baker gorbachev another direct evidence found in the british archives in the national archives of greatritain, a document was found in 1991, in which representatives of western countries declared the unacceptability of such a step. the document was discovered by boston university professor joshua shifrinson. before. it was kept secret. it was drawn up as a result of a meeting of representatives of the foreign policy departments of the united states of america great britain france germany in more than 6 martha. 1991. we made it clear to whom the alliance in the two plus four talks, and also in other negotiations, that we did not intend to benefit from the withdrawal of soviet troops from eastern europe. nato should not expand to the east. informally or informally. these are the words of the us representative raymond seitz, from the same document, in the same document, the german representative said that the alliance would not expand beyond the oder river in connection with which they could no longer offer nato membership, the promise did not last long already. washingtons. brussels initi

is it true that baker promised gorbachev not to expand the extent? yes, i think it's true.intervene, if i may, i was at that time the chief of staff of meetings between president bush and the president more than 100 times and i think this commitment was indeed made. it was a verbal commitment. in writing so we're right in what we say. who did not have a formal obligation? but that was part of secretary baker's obligations , the issue was discussed, but then because of putin's behavior when i met putin for the first time he was then the deputy mayor of st. petersburg. and even then he said that the collapse of the russian empire was one of the greatest tragedies in history. putin will know that putin will become president of russia i promised who well borya johnson is his personal promise. yes, it is worth nothing and it is written on it, but it is worth nothing. where which by the way what storm johnson where is he. and who is the prime minister? yes, i don’t know one boris johnson, he was born the eighth baby, he's famous for it, and he writes articles. he is a british jou

well, what do you think, is it true that lord baker promised gorbachev not to expand.i was the head of the miran presidential administration at the time and attended many of our meetings. between president bush and president gorbachev. i have met with gorbachev more than 100 times and i think that this commitment was indeed made. it was a verbal commitment. in writing so we're right in what we say. that there was no formal commitment? but that was part of secretary baker's obligations , this issue was discussed, but then because of putin's behavior when i met with putin for the first time he was then the deputy mayor of st. petersburg. and even then he said that the collapse of the russian empire had become. one of the greatest tragedies in history. so he always had that conviction. the united states will know that putin will become president of russia i promised who well boris johnson is his personal promise, but it costs nothing. and it's written on it. it doesn't cost anything. where what. by the way, what kind of boris where is he. and who is the prime minister? ye

i was going to ask your panelists about the promise made by james baker to gorbachev in return for thefication of germany, nato promises not to go one inch eastward. it seems like that promise should not been taken -- it have been taken lightly. the antigens of nato -- intentions of nato it is to russian related to yugoslavia to break it into its component parts. have a nice day. thank you. host: anything you want to add? guest: do not blame nato for russia's aggression. putin started this war for no good reason and by the way, while we're on the subject, before the war, german chancellor goes to moscow and he says to putin, we will block ukraine entry into nato forever if you do not launch the war. putin wants to war anyway. --launched the war anyway. it is about ukraine's existence as an independent country. the best way to stop because aggression is to draw the line and say we are done with ambiguity. guest: these two issues, the question of the promise and german offer for the war broke out are intimately related. 1990 gorbachev took assurances did not get it in writing. now right

i was going to ask your panelists about the promise made by james baker to gorbachev in return for thefication of germany, nato promises not to go one inch eastward. it seems like that promise should not been taken -- it have been taken lightly. the antigens of nato -- intentions of nato it is to russian related to yugoslavia to break it into its component parts. have a nice day. thank you. host: anything you want to add? guest: do not blame nato for russia's aggression. putin started this war for no good reason and by the way, while we're on the subject, before the war, german chancellor goes to moscow and he says to putin, we will block ukraine entry into nato forever if you do not launch the war. putin wants to war anyway. --launched the war anyway. it is about ukraine's existence as an independent country. the best way to stop because aggression is to draw the line and say we are done with ambiguity. guest: these two issues, the question of the promise and german offer for the war broke out are intimately related. 1990 gorbachev took assurances did not get it in writing. now right

well, what do you think, is it true that lord baker promised gorbachev not to expand the extents. obligation? but this was part of secretary baker's obligations . i understand that the word, so to speak, now weighs nothing at all. especially the american word. fie gave. zabral said, think about it. yes, business , god, he promised, this does not mean that he got married, but nonetheless. well, here it is for accuracy. i think i do. i hope that let's go after this. here we will stop all these discussions, promised not promised and fix it. here, as you know, there is no formal promise was, but the oral promise of the secretary of state to the president was. well they say it like that, what is it called? corrected, please, well, in this situation, over e. secretary is a position. uh goes with the president. america has a secretary. there is no secretary's promise. yes, it's called. well, as it were, yes , there is no person for several days, there are problems today. america already , without hesitation, says that to everyone to whom we promised, we have forgiven everyone, and if the

baker, and all the minister of foreign affairs. the secretary of state of promise promised to gorbachev. good. nato will not move when the page to the east in presence of guests to the gentleman by the same presence of uh, order. i'll do, i'll put it in his friend. was a frenchman, no american promise? and i mean, since this is incredible today, of course, since the past 14, they are preparing your brain for this coughing. and it is a prototype which doesn't see you because we have very good propaganda. you know, price here in here. well, i actually wouldn't say it's good propaganda. i mean, i think during the cold war is a lot more subtle. it's a lot subtle at all anymore. right now. you know, lee, one of the things, it's very curious, you know, and talk to you about this. somebody to hear a t of it's members countries, but they don't want to talk about you pan european security. and that is the problem here and extending the alliance isn't going to create security actually in security. and that is the greatest fault of nato. it doesn't think about the headings i found, so yeah, i agree