think it will, we have made substantial progress, we on tuesday reached an agreement with the bakers union, they will put it out for a vote, let the employees vote, it rests in the employees' hands. neil: unions say you are putting it all on them, bad management, bad decisions and bad times that did it. and a health-conscious society that did this. >> the last part i do not buy, we would not have chocolate companies, who would sell and make chocolate if that was an issue, that is not a huge issue for hostess,. neil: your biggest seller? >> you almost have to look at geography, with drakes cakes and dolly madison,. neil: i think that ding dongs are your staple. twinkies could be, what scares me, how long have they been around, when i open a package, i suspect they have been open for decades. >> not that particular one. neil: they have a long shelf life. >> they do but not as long as people think, that is one reason we have a good thrift store business. as to your question about cost and blame, i think in this case, i have done this for 29 years, everyone shares in the blame, there is no one