there is an account of the jim bakker visiting the kurdish region of iraq and watching tens of thousands of refugees. he called back to washington. his voice breaking and said, we must do something. they sent wanted dozen trips. they sent 20,000 troops to somalia to deal with potential humanitarian catastrophe there. and all of the cases, save thousands if not hundreds of thousands of lives. we are proposing not 20,000 troops or 30,000 troops. we are proposing that we provide the aid, the military and humanitarian aid to the opposition needs to turn the tide right now. if necessary to provide a northern -- a no-fly zone i can be done with better already in place and turkey. given the stakes and turkey, it is not too high of a price for the united states to play. >> i will open it up just a little bit because the debate about syria is not just a debate about syria. is also a debate about american foreign policy, generally. everything that obama said would happen if we intervened in syria happen and we did not intervene and that what are you empresses we did not intervene. there is no long

. >> anybody evangelical person like jim bakker and now mark sanford using god as a buffer between him his deplorable conduct, not just with the woman from argentina but as governor, his lack of governance and leadership and his -- with all of that, he is as bad as jim bakker was. and now he's using god? how cynical. how absolutely despicable is this guy? i would say about as despicable as they get. >> john: i'm confident the good conservative republicans of south carolina will see through this rap no matter how much money he raises. we didn't even get a chance to get to nikki haley. in ten seconds what do you think of nikki hail let's chances for seeking higher office in the years to come? >> i don't think she's going to get -- i don't think we need to worry about that. 37% approval rating to 43% approval rating. an incumbent governor in a republican state. she's toast. >> john: i love south carolina. i love the land. i love the heritage and it's great to talk to passionate people like you who care about the future of the state's economy. dick harpootlian i hope to have you join us in

unfortunately we're out of time thank you so much weighing in there from the answer coalition brian bakker thank you. well the rivalry between the u.s. and china has gone digital and it's threatening to turn into a full scale cyber war at least according to some recent scandal involving a chinese military unit allegedly engaged in cyber theft from american companies has put washington on the defensive but it might not be long before washington makes its move in this new era of a cyber arms race sorties marina port nial reports in january it is my pleasure to welcome president to the white house washington and beijing would be a list couple of geopolitics the positive constructive cooperative u.s. china relationship is good for the united states in february america's feelings are fleeting china unleashing its full spy power let's return to the alleged link between china's military and april. cyber attacks are being carried out by teams inside the chinese military china is officially out of control because don't look now but prove today our sugar daddy is a thief beijing became an overnight

revenue and it also occurred in a sym plush age and with some of the great masters of the game like jim bakker and dick darman or requests trait -- orchestrating it -- even though it's the right objective. >> corporate tax -- sorry. >> that may be the whitehouse's first prior actually rather than individual tax reforms. >> the scenario where democrats and republicans come together much more. here's the important thing to remember roger just hit on this which is simpson simpson-bowles increase -- it's a great grand bargain. deficit reduction plans at the end of the day are some combination of tax increases and spending cuts. tax increases on you and spending cuts that affect you are not popular, right. and that is sort of, that's how we've gotten ourselves into this problem. it's not simply a matter of spineless politicians although i wish we had more courage as politicians and it's not just a matter of waist although i wish we had less waste but they don't want to raise taxes and cut security benefits and at the end of the day that's the way we get ourselves through the deficit. >> rose: then

give reagan all the krin the world but i don't think he would have gotten it done without jim bakker.sident will test every ounce of his political power. doesn't want to force medicare because politics are tough for democrats. he wants to win this argument. he'll make a deal on guns and immigration to get something. i feel he wants to test his political skill on taxes. >> the history on budget and tax, there's a history from the white house point of view of the president trying to make a deal, offering a deal and republicans being in a posture of saying, 10-1, theoretically, we won't take it. >> what should he do? >> i think he's got to redefine, rephrase the dialogue, redefine the way we kind of look at these issues and so the orientation, say pick a date, 20 years from now, what's this country going to be 20 years from now and take that reference point as where we want to get. >> david gregory and eugene robinson, thank you very much. >>> coming up, senator marco rubio finds resistance within his own party with immigration. we'll talk to one senator who says he can't support a pathw