. >> the area has still not recovered from the devastation of the balkan wars of the 1990's.but the people here, most of them bosnian croats, lead rutledge lives compared to other parts of the country the family's oldest daughter already lives in croatia. with croatia about to join the eu, she hopes for new opportunities. this is the day they come them rate the dead -- commemorate the dead. >> i have croatian citizenship, and i think a lot of people will move. not just to austria, but all over europe. >> the eu has always attracted itinerant laborers. now, white-collar workers have the opportunity to immigrate there. young members of this church will soon be able to go to university in the eu, thanks to their croatian passports. but the anticipated brain drain could mean new problems for the patchwork state of bosnia- herzegovina, especially in the largest city in the southwest of the country. the conflicts of the 1990's (blood between ethnic croats and muslims was next -- left bad blood between ethnic croats and muslims bosniacs. one recent joint art project involved the pai

plans to develop a balkan istomin both led calls to weeks of protests across turkey have been frozen . on hold to prevent anti-government demos continuing. and as iranians they elected a new leader we examine the controversial legacy left behind by the nation's i'll go in president mahmoud ahmadinejad.

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in the media but a question to you, just a few weeks ago you had a debate on freedom for the west balkans and the accession of turkey you want to talk to a solution to everything, you want freedom from bosnia to the balkans but how does that fit in to the reality, and negotiations with turkey on the subject? >> my dear colleague, your idea blinds you and presents you from seeing reality, nobody said we wanted to include everybody east of croatia, has nothing to do with it, and we have got to give people a chance, must take that chance for not taking the chance. so turkey can be a democratic country. >> thank you. i found the first statement of the union on the second and ninth of june, at least in one aspect not popular. when he went to turkey, in both states, the second and the ninth not only do you express your concern but more important you ask and i quote now, restraint on all sides. could you please explain what sort of restraint you expected from the peaceful demonstrators? peaceful demonstrators confronted with a brutal police forces and also peaceful demonstrations facing teargas,

racially divided and balkanized and very violent society and i don't think we want to go down that road to the paradox is that we need to borrow some of the american language in the talk of the easy talk about criticism and american nationalism. manages to include almost all people that go to america we need to borrow some of that language in order to avoid american outcomes if you take a nice thing to pinpoint that in your opinion it's a great poor nationalities and see which society doesn't necessarily ensure a richer life and critics would say that that overlooks the fact that integration of the sea provides great security and this is a sort of backbiting a welfare state or do you say to that and of course you know if you know people are coming from poor countries it means you become richer and more secure but nobody can reasonably start from the point of view of the world as a whole well some people do on the lots of people in the academic world some people in the sort of course important left of politics to do you know who are what i call the global village is we're not a global vi

the balkan peninsula will see rain intensifying over the course of the day. thunderstorms are possible. rain is increasing across central parts of europe. the risk of flooding will remain for a couple days. looking dry for the british isles. london getting up 20 degrees. the same goes for paris as well as berlin. 29 in athens. and still at 26 degrees in moscow with plenty of sunshine. here's your extended forecast around the globe. >>> that is all for this edition of "newsline." thanks for joining us. captioning sponsored by macneil/lehrer productions >> ifill: the supreme court ruled today that, even without a warrant, police may take d.n.a. samples from suspects under arrest. good evening. i'm gwen ifill. >> brown: and i'm jeffrey brown. on the newshour tonight, marcia coyle dissects the 5-4 decision, which split the court in surprising ways. >> ifill: then, violent demonstrations raged across turkey for a fourth straight day. we get the latest on the protesters calling for the prime minister to step down. >> it really started as this tiny sit-in, but this

the balkan peninsula will see rain intensifying over the course of the day. thunderstorms are possible. rain is increasing across central parts of europe. the risk of flooding will remain for a couple days. looking dry for the british isles. london getting up 20 degrees. the same goes for paris as well as berlin. 29 in athens. and still at 26 degrees in moscow with plenty of sunshine. here's your extended forecast around the globe. >>> that is all for this edition of "newsline." thanks for joining us. >> "california's gold" is produced in association with kcet los angeles and is seen statewide on california public television. this series is endorsed by: >> well, hello, everybody. i'm huell howser. and you know they were definitely part of americana and they were definitely part of folklore here in california. i'm talkin' about the good, old roadside attractions. i can remember as a kid goin' on vacation with my parents. and you'd start to see these signs along the road, kinda buildin' 'em up. and by the time you got there, your parents just had to stop and le

in the balkan peninsula, hail is likely. temperatures are going up to 27 degrees in paris. the 22 in london, and down towards the south, 28 for new athens on friday. here's the extended forecast. >>> and that is all for this edition of "newsline." i'm catherine kobayashi in tokyo. do stay with us. we'll be back with more at the top of the hour. captioning sponsored by macneil/lehrer productions >> brown: the u.s. government has secretly collected a massive log of phone records from millions of americans, part of an ongoing counter-terrorism effort. good evening, i'm jeffrey brown. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonight, we get two views of the national security agency's phone tracking program, which has sparked a debate over privacy versus security threats. >> brown: then, margaret warner has another on-the-ground report from beirut, on the increased role of lebanon's hezbollah in the syrian civil war.

in the balkan peninsula, hail is likely. temperatures are going up to 27 degrees in paris. the 22 in london, and down towards the south, 28 for new athens on friday. here's the extended forecast. >>> and that is all for this edition of "newsline." i'm catherine kobayashi in tokyo. do stay with us. we'll be back with more at the top of the hour. ó howser: it's an amazing record, a record that still stands

instead, eastern europe and the balkan peninsula are seeing some intensified rain and thundershowers over the course of the day. out west, due to this high pressure system, looking dry for the british isles and the western continent. and temperatures on the rise. 20 in london and 23 degrees in paris for wednesday. here's the extended forecast. >>> that is all for this edition of "newsline." i'm catherine kobayashi in tokyo. do stay with us. huell: california's gold is produced in association with kcet los angeles and is seen statewide on california public television. this series is endorsed by the california teachers association, the california school boards association and the california library association. huell: it was a historic day: january 31, 1971, the launch of apollo 14 on what was to be america's third trip to the lunar surface. three astronauts made the trip. alan shephard and edgar mitchell actually walked on the moon, while stuart roosa orbited above in the command module. and here's where the story gets

severe ones have been interrupting in northern portions of the balkans and we're expecting heavy rain, possibly flooding rain as parts of poland, chezech are public i very unstable. this coming downright towards the south is clashing with the heat coming up from northern africa. 37 in athens. we've got 30 in madrid. 38 in lisbon. as the temperatures drop off you can see the difference there. 14 degrees in vienna. this is where we're really going to see the violent storms breaking out. here's your extended forecast. >>> that's "newsline" for this hour, i'm gene otani in tokyo. ♪ >>> built over 600 years ago, the haguro five story pagoda is said to be the tallest in the area. even when shaken by the 9.0 magnitude great east japan earthquake, it did not collapse. it remains standing to this day. on february the 22nd, 2011, less

instead, eastern europe and the balkan peninsula are seeing some intensified rain and thundershowers over the course of the day. out west, due to this high pressure system, looking dry for the british isles and the western continent. and temperatures on the rise. 20 in london and 23 degrees in paris for wednesday. here's the extended forecast. >>> that is all for this edition of "newsline." i'm catherine kobayashi in tokyo. do stay with us.

we have been seeing severe storms through the balkan peninsula. the center looks dry and settled but we're still dealing with flooding here. i want to show you what's going on. this video coming out of croatia. we have workers and volunteers fighting off the waters from germany to croaticroatia, it br another levee as floodwaters continued to the north sea, at least 22 flood related deaths have been reported in central europe this far and 23,000 residents had to leave their homes. the record breaking flooding was kicked off by an unusually persistent cutoff low but now it's all of the water coming downstream that's causing this continuing flooding. so still very serious situation there in central europe. i'll leave you now with your extended forecast. >>> before we go, experts in japan put their senses to work to judge some of this year's wines. they gathered in one of the largest wine producer regions. the event featured 87 offerings from 29 wineries. nine judges examined each entry and checked for flavor, aroma and color and gave scores on a sca

still seeing thunderstorms into the balkans peninsula. high pressure in behind it and then the low pressure area starts to come in from the west. across the british isles some showers, wednesday evening into london and paris. temperatures cooling off. only 17 expected on wednesday in london. that's a look at world weather. here's your extended forecast. >>> that's "newsline" for this hour. i'm gene otani in tokyo. from all of us here at nhk world, thanks for joining us. have a great day wherever you are. . >>> hello from above. the tokyo sky tree that opened about a year ago is garnering much attention in japan. just look at this view. or lack there of. it was cloudy on the opening day. but not to worry. one can enjoy this tower with one's ears, not just the eyes. what, you ask? this soup curry is the key. >> translator: the spices have an awakening event. >> awakening spices? tell me more.

instead of shutting their kids or monitoring them as the balkan, why don't you offer them a job? -- model train them as they walked in, why don't you offer them eight -- monitoring and the them as they walked in, why don't you offer them a job? [applause] >> i will ask the professor to ask some specific questions. and then we will get to your questions in about eight or nine minutes. i will ask you to keep your response is brief. >> ok, you will have to bear with me. i am going to go off script for 30 seconds. there is a person in the audience, and i meant to mention her during my keynote. it is someone that you all should try to talk to during a break or during lunch because someone like her should be on this panel. one person missing. it is a public defender. this is someone who worked as a public defender for 19 years in los angeles. she is now director of legal services. now i'm going to embarrass her. her name is ellie miller. there she is. [applause] public defenders are legal ministers. you are. you are part of this picture. ok. i will go back to what i was supposed to be

another battle that she understands than most people, are the balkans. closely at the balkans and our experience there, to understand what needs to be done in syria. there, you had the russians taking one side. we had genocide taking place within the country. eventually, it took american, nato military involvement to get it right. >> it was successful. fascinating discussion. thank you all very much. >>> coming up, congressman john dingell has been with every president since eisenhower. he'll make history soon. find out why in our "sunday spotlight." i'm the next american success story. working for a company where over seventy-five percent of store management started as hourly associates. there's opportunity here. i can use walmart's education benefits to get a degree, maybe work in it, or be an engineer, helping walmart conserve energy. even today, when our store does well, i earn quarterly bonuses. when people look at me, i hope they see someone working their way up. vo: opportunity, that's the real walmart. >>> it is kind of irresistible. the parade o

yugoslav, that is the when court set up to prosecute those responsible for atrocities committed in the balkans an e-mail has emerged reportedly written by danish -- a danish judge which alleges that powerful external forces are amenability and the court to protect themselves from investigation. -- are manipulating the court to protect themselves from investigation. >> the free syrian army as well as government troops are suspected of committing war crimes. security officers established and trained the notorious paramilitary squads to terrorize serbs. a judge said there was insufficient proof that the men had specifically directed that the weapons should be used for illegal operations. the not guilty verdict reflected some lawyers a change in earlier judgment which could have international implications. >> leaders of the u.s. and uk do not have to fear to be prosecuted when they assisted groups like rebels in syria, who they know are likely to use the weapons and money that they , at leastmit crimes some of them. under the old law, they would be liable for prosecution for aiding and abetting. >

but it will be making its way towards the east to the balkan peninsula. and this is the area where we have numerous reports of thunder thunderstorms, hails have been reported in bulgaria and in romania. so this is the area where unsettled conditions will continue on for the next several days. out towards the british isles, this system is actually the remnants -- what's left over from the tropical storm andrea. this is bringing wet and windy conditions to the british isles, as well as the low countries. and it's pulling cold air from the north, making things quite on the chilly side. london at 17 degrees with some localized heavy rain. and madrid looking at 31, so hot down there. warsaw and kiev at 25 degrees. let me give the updates of the tropical storm still over water. now it's starting to deform, and dissipate before it moves towards the western regions of japan. already, though, the gusts are reaching up to 110 kilometers per hour so the pacific side is looking at some waves quite high. but you can see that the speed has really decreased. it was abou

in which part of its agenda was not also regime change in that country i mean if you look at the balkans if you look at iraq if you look at what we did in libya if we look at what we say we want to do in syria and every one of those cases you know the argument for you man. terry an intervention is an extract of lee bound up with the argument for coercive regime change and you know frankly i think i think russia and china are eminently justified in and saying they're not going to do if we've run out of time judith won't have time to reply we've run out of time i'm very sorry many thanks my guest today in washington and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t.c. you next time and remember cross talk to us. wealthy british style. sometimes. margetts why not scandals. find out what's really happening to the global economy in cars a report on our. preparations for the first woman cause when it was strictly classified. even her own mother knew nothing of the imminent extraterrestrial voyage during his second dog which there was a terrifying and unexpected emotions. one wrong move und

personified indicates a few guys lobbied was the loss of a child was portrayed as the butcher of the balkans indicates awfully bad was good dopy the chief criminal and in the case of syria now it is assad who is supposedly killing his own people i wonder why is there so much out persist on believe there is because clearly they were not driving around and doing all the killing themselves societies in their national criminal systems in the international society and its international crime tribunals. needs to be able to divide some people of as having behaved so badly that they should really be regarded as criminals and that's not very much different from what happens in ordinary society but. what is perhaps very important to have in mind is that political and military leaders these days should be counted as knowing what people beneath them will do if they take certain decisions about propaganda about separating societies and accordingly it may be that the focus of attention should be much more on the leaders who bear responsibility rather than on the low level offenders or perpetrators who com

in which part of its agenda was not also regime change in that country i mean if you look at the balkans if you look at iraq if you look at what we did in libya if we look at what we say we want to do in syria and every one of those cases you know the argument for you man. tarion intervention is an extract of lee bound up with the argument for coercive regime change and you know frankly i think i think russia and china are eminently justified in and saying they're not going to do we have run out of time and judith won't have time to reply we have run out of time i'm very sorry many thanks to my guests today in washington and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t.c. the next time and remember cross topples. technology innovation all the developments around russia we've got the future covered. you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so for life you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harvey welcome to the big picture. you live on one h

in which part of its agenda was not also regime change in that country i mean if you look at the balkans if you look at iraq if you look at what we did in libya if we look at what we say we want to do in syria and every one of those cases you know the argument for you man. tarion intervention is an extract of lee bound up with the argument for coercive regime change and you know frankly i think i think russia and china are eminently justified in saying they're not going judith we have run out of time judith won't have time to reply we've run out of time i'm very sorry many thanks to my guest today in washington and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t.c. you next time and remember cross talk to us. please. wealthy british style. markets why not come to. find out what's really happening to the global economy with mike stronger for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into kinds or report on our nobody chooses to be homeless no one chooses to me and us are all. isidro's for the show to. get in the six pm get out six b six. day war room a. school day or

plans to develop a balkan istomin both led calls to weeks of protests across turkey have been frozen but there's no clear agreement on how to prevent anti-government demos continuing. and as iranians they elected a new leader we examine the controversial legacy left behind by the nation's outgoing president mahmoud ahmadinejad. is a pm here in the russian capital you live with us on our t.v. with me to bomb would say it's good to have your company with us let's take a look at what we have for you five washington will put lethal weapons in the hands of syria's rebels it's concluded that bashar assad's regime has a use chemical weapons be it on a small scale and so will also more help to those fighting him artie's marina has the details. this is quite a game changer being announced by the obama administration what we know is that the u.s. has decided that it will provide military support to syrian rebels but u.s. officials would not specify what that support will involve the national security council that the pfizer ben rhodes says that the new assistance to the syrian rebels will be d

plans to develop a balkan istanbul that calls weeks of protests turkey has been frozen but there's no clear agreement on how to prevent anti-government demos continuing. and with polls now close in iran's election we examine the controversial legacy left behind by the nation is all going president ahmadinejad. watching live from moscow with me to mom would say let's take a look at the news. washington will put lethal weapons there in the hands of syria's rebels it's concluded that bashar. has used chemical weapons albeit on a small scale and so will offer more help to those fighting him or his murder to put my has the details this is quite a game changer being announced by the obama administration what we know is that the u.s. has decided that it will provide military support to syrian rebels but u.s. officials would not specify what that support will involve national security council get the prize or ben rhodes says that the new assistance to the syrian rebels will be different from the non-lethal communications type of quitman that the u.s. has given before and this of course leads

is double parking, but they're going to decide, this particular prosecutor will decide tamale the balkans prosecuted. you can't do that. there is a motion to be brought before a judge called a selective prosecution motion. lou: selective. it was truly. >> it was. >> that is his point. it started. you cannot target a certain group. what they did is they targeted. >> the targeted. to buy nine a ring to it for me. selective targeting. this was a political arm, the internal revenue service began a political arm of the obama administration. and it is straightforward. it looks to be from top to bottom and from agency to white house. given the level of contacts between shulman. >> flew that egg roll. >> only 156. >> there was one egg roll. lou: messages. >> here is what i would use. maybe you will agree on this. what i would do as i would look at this from a prosecutor's standpoint, go to that field office, the irs field office in cincinnati and that would immunize them. i would say, the safe come heree talk to us, whether it's cumbersome the prosecution because this could be a federal offense.

even that sounds a bit rebellious with a richer the balkans feel. for me it was really just giving up. i had been hopeless in prayer which as you can imagine is a bit of a drawback for a nun. so every morning i would struggle with my meditation and completely fail. i seemed to completely open myself to god and he had taken no notice. once i got outside, he just looked away. no matter how much i tried to bring him into my life he sort of seemed to decline me and offers and it just sort of fell away quite painlessly really. i just thought let's leave that. something i don't want to go back to. >> host: karen armstrong, 20 plus books on the dog. later -- books on god. where are you spiritually? >> guest: i'm still in recovery but my books are my study and the research i do for it is biform of spirituality. sometimes when i'm sitting at my desk doing signs of compassion, putting oneself to one side and entering into the mind and thoughts of some of the most wonderful things that have been written, i feel moments of uplift, seconds of transcendence now,

or supporting, one, extremist violence in the republic of macedonia and elsewhere in the western balkans region or, two, acts obstructing implementation of the date and accords in bosnia or united nations security council resolution 1244 of june 10, 1999, related to kosovo which led to the declaration of a national emergency on june 26, 2001, in executive order 13219 and to the amendment of that order in executive order 13304 of may 28, 2003, to include acts obstructing implementation of the framework agreement of 2001 in macedonia has not been resolved. the acts of extremist violence and obstructionist activity outlined in executive order 13219, as amended, are hostile to u.s. interests and continue to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the united states. for this reason i have determined that it is necessary to continue the national emergency declared with respect to the western balkans. signed, barack obama, the white house. the speaker pro tempore: referred to the committee on foreign affairs and ordered printed. pursuant to clause

see about 500 to 800 people and many of them are from western european countries, not just in the balkans. so, they are definitely potential issues related to what happened when these people go back home. >> and it's apparently already happening in mid april authorities in belgium executing a nationwide raid detaining six men as part of an alleged jihadist recruitment drive for the syrian opposition, shep. >> shepard: catherine, do we know he with any certainty how many americans are over there? >> shep, there are two well documented cases of americans allegedly fighting for the opposition in syria. erika reason a former army private is standing trial in virginia on federal charges that he fought alongside al qaeda in syria and the most recent case involves a 33-year-old woman from flint, michigan. the family of nicole lynn mansfield confirming based on information from the fbi that the convert to islam fighting for the opposition. today the state department called on all foreign firefighters to leave the country. >> we are concerned about the influx of all foreign fighters regardless of

. >> it took a long time for the balkan intervention. >> and sometimes they're valid and sometimes theyoing forward who was one of the officials in the clinton administration when he made what he now calls his biggest foreign policy regret in not intervening in rwanda -- >> susan rice. >> who will be president obama's national security adviser coming up. it will be interesting to see if we have this shuttle shift. bill clinton i think is also always good at riding a wave of policy. when things move, he know when is they're moving. and i think they were kind of already moving anyway. >> i want to turn to some controversy on the hill this week. during a how judiciary hearing on a bill, representative trent franks of arizona said he opposes an exemption for rape victims for abortion, or seeking abortion because, quote, the incidents of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low. that's not a medical fact and i'm not sure where he gets that information but that was something that a lot of liberals and democrats jumped upon. and then today house minority leader nancy pelosi ripped into a repor

they've come down to belfast where protestants and catholics found a way to live together, in the balkans, where the alliance and wars that brought savage war criminals to justice and in south africa, where the struggle a courageous people defeated apartheid. >> joining us now is presidential historian douglas brinkley, a professor of history at rice university. i just want to get your take right off the bat, since it's all fresh and it's all live and it's just wrapping up, as you watch the remarks today, as you saw the backdrop, you saw the turnout, comparing it to what happened in '08, what are your thoughts? >> my first thoughts listening to the speech was that it was obama's second inaugural speech, except only for the world. he hit on climate change, gay rights. it was, you know, many of the same themethemes, sort of reintroducing himself to a world community. the headline is nuclear weapons reduction. he used a great historic setting and backdrop to do it. he evoked john f. kennedy 50 years ago. as jessica yellin said, he's speaking on the east side, not the west. it's a major speak

clinton said the other night, he regrets having waited so long in the balkans, in rwanda, while so much carnage went on. these are tough situations. >> but that was my point, matt. with all due respect, president obama, he's done some foreign policy things that i've looked, some i haven't liked. but i'm saying he's too late on this. clinton is right, he's too late on this. now the rebels are so integrated with the radical jihadists, or whatever the al qaedas are called there, he's just getting into this game way too late. >> general kudlow, you have more in-depth knowledge of the actual composition of the rebel forces than many of the contacts. >> we have a hard time trying to figure out what we want to do. because assad has got on his side hezbollah. we would love to see assad go down the tubes because hezbollah goes down with him. >> but he's not going down the tubes. he's probably going to win this election. >> even if we had started arming the rebels months and months ago -- >> helena, i want you to get back in here. another party weighed in today. that is russia. vladimir putin. no

. -- balkanizing this wonderful technology. there is tradeoff. but the task force came to the conclusion that we need bodies to steer but not necessarily overcontrol. >> ambassador negroponte? >> i guess one of my takeaways this exercise is i reflected on the different challenges we face in defending the internet. i think this is a great title, by the way. we got that kind of feedback from others we visited around town. is that however technical and scientific the internet may be, that in the end, geopolitics also has quite a bit to do with all of this, and that some of the problems -- in fact, all of these topics -- open, global, secure, and resilient -- have a political and international dimension to them, not the least of which the subject you promise to come back to later on. i guess that would be my main observation. there is a significant international and geopolitical dimension to this. >> a very powerful technology. >> after struggling over all the recommendations, i will take the view of the parents, which is that i love all equally. [la

that david petraes understood the hearts and minds of people in the middle east as he had in the balkan. you really has now fashioned the doctrine that when american soldiers hit the ground in an intervention we're not just going to rush in and kill somebody. they understand that gm, strategic command political consequences of being deployed by the united states that a damned if you do and damned if you don't. thank you very much, and i will be happy to answer any questions. [applause] yes? [inaudible question] >> i was going to ask. two reasons. one, i wanted to have an accessible of about 120,000 words. the other was that i did not want to overload antiquity too much because i had themostocles and a person from the roman era, so the speak. the second punic war fought, as you know, the second half restoration, little hard to know whether he alone established the strategy that he did. he ended up winning the war. he is a likely candidate. when you select five pocket biographies, the first thing that arises as you ponder which five is one of the next 25. 2500 years. cortez was wiped out,

powers, of course, actually one a pulitzer prize for a book that she wrote about the conflict in the balkanscan certainly, mika, you and others can celebrate the elevation of these two women to the positions that they are in. this morning, you know, willie geist, i am a lot more focused and a lot more concerned on whether the united states is going to become more active militarily in syria and if you look at these women and their positions in the past on military intervention across the globe, it is far closer to john mccain and madeleine albright's position in the balkans in the 1990s than it has been to barack obama's over the past four years. >> absolutely. and for susan rice, a lot of her views on intervention were colored by her time in the clinton administration when she was on the national security council. she looked back on rwanda with great regret as president clinton has as well wishing they had done more. she is stepping if nto prevent genoc genocide and shown restraints when it comes to syria. >> looking at the political aspect of this, air ran that. i'm reading the different ve

huge hero for doing what the europeans should have done but didn't, save lives and bring peace not balkansthis is a different situation. here's the problem. i tend to be a little hawkish, believe it or not, despite the fact i was against the iraq war. the problem that bill clinton has and the reason that president obama is right on this one, is because the rebel group in syria has now been infiltrated by al qaeda. a case two days ago where a 14-year-old boy was pulled out of a kiosk at a fair and had his head chopped off by the rebels. this is the not the rebels we like. there are very good people and six months ago had we come in ons the side of the rebels that would have been one thing. now we're supporting the same kind of people we supported in afghanistan, one of whom turned out to be osama bin laden. this is a problem. >> it's a lot like what happened when we, you know -- you go in and if you go in too late, you don't have a good resistance group and the same thing happened in libya. >> right. >> where we went in and we weren't really sure who we were supporting. but i think, mika, b

we are balkanized and in this country. people are coming from wherever. they are staying in those cultures in pockets, population centers across the country. the romantic days of immigration in the early 1900s, those people came here, and they remained in their identity, but they wanted to be americans. they wanted to participate in whatever they thought the american dream was. that is a distinction that can be drawn today. host: your take on the exchange between rush limbaugh on his radio program and senator ted cruz of texas. that was before the vote is past week. guest: not that surprising. they are against the bill because they think it will lead to more people being on welfare, it will cost the treasury, and you will have a bunch of here that are not americans. my own view is if you fix this broken system, you are going to have a greater economic growth, more people who are going to be not on a pathway to citizenship but a pathway to the middle class, which is leading to a more robust country, a more diverse country, which has always been the america

if there's one lesson we learned from the balkans is, you have to be able to operate both militarilytically and you have to do it simultaneously. >> general clark, one thing that you mentioned is where do we see the end in all of this? it seems to me that the end game for the united states, for its allies, if they are going to start this, is bashar al assad and how do you accomplish that without any u.s. military personnel ever getting involved? do you think that that is ever going to be entertained as an option in any of this? >> it all depends on the course of the fighting and how it is escalated. russia has said they are going to put these missiles in and they didn't and some people said they are already there. we know the iranians are moving across iraq with supplies and assistance. we know that there have been iranians killed there. so as we put more strength in to help the rebels, we have to assume that the other side is going to also escalate. and so where are the final end state depends on the will of both parties. it's how far we are willing to go and how farther willing to

clinton, his whole thing is, i think he looks back at the balkans and rowanda and feels like he waited and his actual formulation of sometimes it's better to get caught trying is the kind of perfect political formulation. >> he got caught trying. >> what didn't run on that clip was, you know, the most powerful part of it and the most absurd was, obama will look foolish. you don't make strategic decisions about life and death and deployed people over the way things look. you have to ask that, you know, cold question of how do you win or how do you move forward. in this particular case with the rebels, you know, the broad question. ben quoted in the paper this morning saying we would know more about the content and the syrian resistance than we did six months ago that we can get in and help. we don't know the inventory. the white house went out of its way and we do not know the inventory of what we're going to be sending. we can help do things to increase the cohesiveness and the traction of the syrian resistance. part of the syrian resistance and very, very hard line and hard core islam

on federal missions in pre-9/11, we were doing as i mentioned earlier some of the missions and balkans as well as the nation's that we supported under the no-fly zone. but it was very small, two to 3000 a year being mobilized for those missions. we did avoid in desert storm, desert shield, desert storm. we had troops, just cause but most of it were very small units and not for very long time friends. so a very small portion of our population actually had the opportunity to mobilize. and they give you the numbers up front if you think about today, 460,000 army and air guardsman it and that than a couple, two or 3000 a year getting a chance to deploy was a very small number. in addition to that though, our air national guard dating back into the '70s, actually before that, probably even as late as the late '50s under the norad agreement doing their control over over the united states. today there's 45, seven tankers and a couple of awacs. 95% of that capability setting alert today comes out of the air national guard. and we been doing definition for a long time, and again through the '80

but a question to youor, just a few weeks ago you had the debate on freedom for the west balkans andin turkey you want to find a total solution, solution to everything; you want that freedom from bosnia, but how does that fit in with the reality of just put to us? obvious change your mind. not again what is your attitude on this in the negotiations with turkey on this subject now, mr. swoboda? >> translator: my deer colleague, your ideology blinds you and prevend you from seeing reality. nobody said that we wanted to include everybody east of croatia. has nothing to do with accessionment we have lot of country with visa normal a's bit no process of accession. it doesn't give people a chance. if have always been for that but turkey must take the chance, and erdogan is not taking a chance he has to change so turkey can be a democratic country. >> translator: thank you. >> first of all, let me say that i found the first statements of the union on the second and the 9th of june, at least in one aspect, inappropriate. was more outspoken when he went to turkey, but in both states, until th

spoke to do, a few weeks ago you had to debate on recent freedom for the west balkans and you want to find a total solution there, a solution to everything and you want freedom from -- but how does that fit in with the reality? have you changed her mind? have you thought again? what is your attitude with the air of negotiations now? >> my dear colleague, your ideology blinds you and prevents you from seeing reality. nobody said that we wanted to include everybody east of croatia. it has nothing to do with accession. we have a lot of countries with no prospect of accession. we have got to give people a chance. the people of turkey must take that chance and what erdogan is doing is not taking that chance. he has to change so that turkey can be a democratic country. >> thank you. >> first of all let me say that i found the first statesman of the union on the second and the ninth of june at least in one aspect inappropriate. he was more outspoken when he went to turkey but i'm both statements on the second in the ninth not only did you express your concern but more important and i quote n