the book is that they have in very small cases i spent some time with the gary a group called balkan leaks successfully did obtain classified or releases secret documents about the bulgarian governments and leaked them and eventually partnered with with wiki leaks to release wiki leaks very explosive documents double garia but before that they were already using the same technologies and methods as wiki leaks did and successfully showing the this can be replicated with but i believe what's been missing from other situations is are two things and one is a technical understanding of anonymity tools which blocking leaks has been the same way that we did essentially using tor this very. very secure and well tested piece of anonymity software as the as of fundament of of their anonymity promise but then also i think the other sites don't have the kinds of journalistic or free expression figurehead that wiki leaks had and julian and sons' and a songe which is kind of colorful personalities like amazing media. persona he he was a kind of beacon for whistle blowers i'm not sure he still is but he