in the case of intervention in these conflicts in the balkans or north africa or anywhere else in the world and for that matter indeed the international players as they constantly are doctoring to the conditions on the ground are forced their hands are forced often by events in the case of interventions in the balkans for instance i suspect is being kraybill of collusion between certain players in so-called. members member nations and the nato alliance with some of the key players on the ground including the most of his regime we often forget that there are some strong indications and very strong opinions voiced by various players in both the united states and in western europe in regards to protecting the sovereignty of another sovereign claims that serbia had an intervention intervening first in. northern balkans in one thousand nine hundred ninety one ninety two and then later on ninety seven ninety eight ninety nine in kosovo similarly in north africa i suspect that there was a great deal of hedging there was and waiting it out and see how things were turned out i don't think i do

journalist and author and in geneva we cross the east gloomy he is a professor of middle eastern balkan history at georgia state university all right gentlemen this is crosstalk i mean you can jump in anytime you want you have different points of view and i want my viewers to see it all right and the bush if i can go to you and i know you're an expert on the balkans so let's go all the way back to i kosovo to the present and looking at libya why events are playing out in countries like libya but not bahrain not in yemen not in somalia etc etc what is the track record in your opinion of western military intervention since the end of the cold war. abysmal i think the first in terms of the first and only intervention that actually followed the rules was the desert storm or does rather desert shield in iraq in one thousand nine hundred ninety one everything after that has been just a total mockery of international law from the gradual escalation in bosnia to the outrage illegal war in kosovo to the outright illegal invasion in iraq and now libya which has completely dispensed with even a fi

to da the balkans is just. hot spots where they have criminal business with the train enormous prostitution drugs and all of this is something that personnel thirty's are aware of. and this is just in the gang land and they're oppressing an ethnic minority i mean the serbs. and what may be the outcome of all this the conflict will spread throughout the balkan something fortunately because the serbian people. cannot tolerate what is happening in cost of what to be with there the serbs there and the very difficult situation and eventually this may spread to the rest of the balkan sent to the rest of europe this is what we see every time in the war starts in the balkans and just a few months later this becomes a general european and then a world war so we cannot allow this to happen so if nato is concerned about its reputation they should stop this immediately and become neutral again and best to get the crimes that have happened against the civilians in the northern district of costa. golden russian envoy to nato

during the balkans conflicts but many in serbia see him as a national hero well next our special report looks into the controversy surrounding . in late may two thousand and eleven the small serbian village of law as it ever shot to fame leading newspapers in many countries splashed its name across the front pages it was here the serbian police arrested general ratko luggage on it this is the place where it happened. the worldwide manhunt for him lasted fifteen years serbia had promised a one million euro award for his capture. the general's arrests triggered acts of protest in many serbian towns. some of the serbian people are worried because the hague and international media are smearing our hero of. something is a war criminal others believe he's a victim many events of his life especially in recent years are still shrouded in mystery. the small village of la is it ever a situation in central serbia a repair shop and a couple of cafes are one and the church a cemetery and a school or at the other the village looks like many others in serbia. brad cohen lederach a general of the serbi

seven years in prison for war crimes per restitch was convicted of abetting atrocities during the balkan war in the one nine hundred ninety s. including the massacre of seven thousand muslims in srebrenica he's one of many ethnic military officials on trial in the hague the ex president of serbia and yugoslavia slobodan milosevic died while in custody balkans political expert michael gast it gives us more perspective on whether mrs coupled with him why there are market good seats a night now the court said that this is the first conviction for war crimes committed in bosnia and herzegovina if he was an army leader does this give us an indication of how the other high profile trials will conclude i'm thinking of bosnian serb leader radovan carriage and its army chief what's your take on it. well we know how those trials are going to go because the script for those trials has been written in advance but i think we need to look actually take a look at the real picture here of what parish church was accused of doing because he was accused in effect of crossing. illegally declared borders bor

well that's the skull thing developments in carter with balkans political experts. many thanks for joining us here are saying so what effect do you think more nato troops will have on the already strained situation they're waging is there a chance of this descending into an all out conflict. well i think that more nato troops simply can do the nato tendency what we have here is the serbians the course of the soviets who survive in this area are the live meet inside a nato and greater albania sandwich to the south you've got the organ removals of live human beings a nazi style atrocities are sharpening their knives at getting rid of the remaining serbians who happened to be here in this area and now the german nato troops have cut off these surviving serbians by blocking their lifeline to the north in order to allow for a final solution to take place of this of this is your final solution where we've really been before because even in the so-called war we had not nato german troops but nazi german troops who again were allies of the great albanian project to ethnical

began his career as an officer in the yugoslav army is incorporated all ethnic groups live in the balkans. after world war two yugoslavia was a multi-ethnic federation that was made up of states with different ethnic populations . by three if you see these officers of the former yugoslavia were yugoslavia as far as their convictions were concerned mislay became syrups or surely after the breakup of yugoslavia the area that broadcom law which was one of those who believed in yugoslavia he believed there was still a chance so for evolving it but he changed his views in one thousand nine hundred ninety three after seeing those lines murdering serbs they were trying to create an islamic country in an area populated by serbs with where he himself had been born. a vicious civil war broke out in the slums republican area ninety ninety two about half of the people here follow his around columns. muslims a little more than a third a catholic croatians butchered first supported the serbs but ultimately sided with muslims. in april ninety ninety two the serbs surrounded the bosnian capital sarajevo

these young people make no distinction between muslim and criminals they feel tensions in the balkans died down once all those wanted by the hague tribunal brought to justice. country in the territory of the former yugoslavia has its own version of history each of them has its own. heroes and criminals this is a very bad situation for them it is a breeding ground for future conflict. with. the serbian government has now handed over all the. wanted by the hague tribunal in the proceedings in the run how judge the last suspect on the wanted list was captured on july the twentieth two thousand and eleven. the european union wants serbia to me quite a few conditionals before it can become an e.u. member but so far we have been unable to comply with all of them so the arrest of carriage and how to teach has paved the way for talks of possible entry into the year. serbian society is split over the prospect of merging with greater europe more than half of serbs polled distrust the new. well rather than courage it was still in hiding from the police the phrase rather than courage it street wa

solution could have been possible and it would help stabilizing the situation in that part of the balkans for a long time. since we don't have the leverage to impose such a solution the only thing we can do is continue our policy of non-recognition of course who is independence we should be ready if necessary to give up our prospects of even membership this european path should not come at our expense when we are supposed to give up everything in return for a few concessions. mr president you are unquestionably following the process of what i do for a leader and do you get a feeling you have a feeling that he is getting a fair trial in the hague. i have heard complaints about the fairness of the trial in the hague on many occasions many lawyers say the courts disregards its own procedures and ignores facts others say the court has different approaches in different criteria when it comes to serbs the serbs are judged much more strictly and receive much more serious punishment by those who say that participated in the trial which we cannot but notice all these things but what's clear is tha

twenty seven years in prison for war crimes paris it was convicted of abetting atrocities during the balkans war in the ninety's including the massacre of eight thousand muslims in srebrenica he's one of several ethnic serbs military officials on trial at the hague balkans political expert marco gas edge believes the west wants serbians to feel guilty for the whole of the yugoslavia war. well we know how those trials are going to go because the script for those trials of being written in advance but i think we need to look actually look at the real picture here of what pettish each was accused of doing because he was accused in effect of crossing. illegally declared boldly what is that being declared by the sea it's by the diktats all western governments particularly germany running the e.c. at the time and subsequently by the us the right. these these governments declared that yugoslavia borders would no longer exist and would be replaced by borders smaller of the secession so this was at the expense of yugoslavia's largest people but i think there is an effort on the part of western govern

peacekeepers in the ninety's balkans conflict. and officials in washington have squandered sixty billion dollars in iraq and afghanistan a senate report says the money was lost in waste and fraud. russia has condemned the latest saying against syria banning imports of its oil sanctions piled more pressure on president bashar assad's regime according to the u.n. around two thousand two hundred people have died in syria during the government crackdown against opposition protests since march human rights group amnesty international claims over eighty have been tortured to death in prison but some including the syrian government say the media is twisting their reality as a read english can now reports. mass murder tearing catastrophe a country on the brink of a revolution this is what you see every time syria pops up in the headlines but what is really happening in a country where hardly any foreign journalists are present there's even been the implication that some of the images we're being shown have been digitally nipple manipulate

well he's been hearing from balkans preschool expert mark gasnier you told us that nato forces moved into conservation only to push their own interests i do hope that the international criminal court will will have a look at least since the international criminal court claims to be very interested in the way of civilians are treated i hope that they won't make an exception for western powers in the way they treat civilians they've decided who they want to sponsor they want to sponsor the greater albanian project through which they see their own interest they see camp bondsteel the biggest military base in the world having a permanent presence in the heart of europe strategically located completing that encircled and of russia which was always one of the serious aspects of their game plan that's what they're about they're about controlling the flow of oil controlling the security of energy supplies through this part of the region they're about control nato is about control of territory and control of resources that's why they can stay on the side of those whose country it was not they