they don't make fuel cells like ballard power or plug power.d any 3-d printers in the group. no hedge fund managers going to short them and start a lobbying campaign against them to drive them down and profit from the destruction. nope, these companies simply manage properties that are relatively inexpensive destinations, where you can have a real good time, perfect for newly frugal people who don't feel like going in hot over vacation, after the hideous recession win from not that long ago. amusement parks like six flags and cedar fair, which you might know as stoney park or king's dominion or wild water kingdom are the ideal frugal family vacations. they're great destinations, and these two operators keep their parks fresh with new rides fairly regularly. these features keep people coming back year over year. while we focus on how disney's theme parks are doing, how much disney is charging and how big the gain is, the move on six flags or cedar fair seems to mean absolutely nothing to most investors out there. i've been a big fan of these sto

my dear friend, the deep-sea explorer bob ballard, brought over a 2,000-year-old amphora of wine fromsunken phoenician trading vessel. [chuckles] the wine turned out to be quite toxic. [coughing] my guests and i spent the stroke of midnight in my garden... vomiting. - oh, my god, sorry. - don't be. the whole night-- the purging, the new year, the vivid hallucinations of astarte-- the phoenician goddess of sex and war-- it all wiped the slate clean. - so...nancy donovan... - what happened before christmas was a mistake. she hasn't contacted me since, so clearly she agrees it's over.

. >> this is ballard, which is kind of a hip nice area of town. >> and yet for all his high speed, high technical know-how, this entrepreneur goes to full retro, when it comes to music. >> why vinyl? >> it's slower. >> wait. you're a guy that just had me out riding at 155 miles an hour. >> yeah, it's kind of the same thing, the 155 miles an hour. on records. it's like not enjoying the speed, you have 20 minutes per side and if you do anything in that 20 minutes, you're going to miss it. i want to experience things in the real way. >> mr. ben huh. >> he may not be a musician himself but he has his own rock star status complete with groupies. and to think it all began with a picture of a cat. apropos, perhaps for a man so far at least has landed on his feet. >> i mean if you think about it, anybody can start a business, anybody, there's no barrier to entry, and if you think of the business we're in, we're in the entertainment business, we are competing with anybody who is -- >> do you have a cat? >> i am allergic to cats. what you do need is to understand what your customers want. that's

joining me now the man who discovered the wreck of the titanic, bob ballard. spoke last night before we saw these images. when you saw them in the water what was your reaction? >> well, i wouldn't be surprised if they are the wreckage. compared to what we knew yesterday where it was so confusing, the turning, the thought that they might have seen it in the malacca straits. but now the dots are starting to connect. if you plot where they say it went down, if you plot where the chinese images are coming from and don't forget mike mckay's observation from that oil platform where he saw the fire in the sky on a bearing of 265. if you plot that they're all converging on a spot. the thing i would like to see is the latitude and longitude of the vietnamese oil slick shortly after it went down. because when we searched for the turkish fighter jet off syria that the syrians shot down, the wreckage was directly beneath the oil slick. >> and bill nye is with me, mentioned to ask you whether you knew if any of the american navy are out there and if so are they using hydro

and ballard power presented tonight.hey supply batteries to plug. >> these things have gone nuts. >> baty. >> and back to my bear suit roots. you've been -- >> i thought you were going to say you were long them. >> no. >> i don't know what's going to come out of your mouth. >> this is why i bought tesla. >> tesla's a battery play. >> it's down 20%. 20% in the last two days. it's a battery play. if you believe these guys are going to continue to get contracts, why wouldn't tesla eventually get some of that money? again, this is a trade. i'm not going to be in tesla for the rest of my life. but down 20% in this market, i'll take it. >> elon musk, very critical of the fuel cell. >>> facebook hitting new highs. trading 72 bucks a share, after ubs raised its price target. instagram, signing a huge ad deal with omnicom. >> this is a name, facebook, i had wrong -- almost from the beginning. i said, if you buy it, put it in your drawer and leave it alone. then, i thought you might want to short it. that didn't work out. what i d

also ballard at a seven-year high.re there any others in the sector you are raising questions about? >> i'm focusing right now on plug power. the reason why is unlike ballard power, plug power actually has nothing unique. there is no unique technology. these type of forklifts have been around for 50 years. when you operate in a segment, where there's no competition, and you are working at negative gross margins and you have lost $800 million on your business model, at what point do you say, and that's with the federal tax incentives, at what point do you say maybe we just don't have a business? >> well, listen, on that basis, we have to go. there are a lot startup and i know plug has been around a long time, i was at the nasdaq when it hit 15 a share. it had a reverse split so it's at 150 now as a top. there are a lot of companies you describe that operate at losses for a long time before -- just because it was 2012 and 2010, it's a different year. i'm trying to defend -- i want to let our viewers know, we invited the

thank you for joining me, bob ballard.g, old ships which people thought would never be found, the bismarck, titanic and others, and found them in often very difficult terrain and waters. what is your reading of the situation that we're now in with this missing plane? >> well, it seemed to be changing every hour, but the latest information suggests that it went down or could have gone down in the moroccan straits. that's anywhere shallow, ait's n area of very strong currents. so you have to remember that if there is degree in the water, as time goes by, that debris is moving and this particular time the currents are to the northwest. so if you go to the spot where it went down, the debris will not be there. so you need to be able to search to the northwest and extrapolate backwards. so time continues to move, if there is debris. i cannot believe that there is not debris in the water. but as you know, they've only recently begun to look there. but there are now good assets. the u.s. navy 7th fleet has helicopters in there wi

and we're happy to have all the guys from the ganges river band joining us "right this minute" from ballard, you definitely faked out a bunch of people with this video. was that your intention? >> no, i didn't think anybody was actually going to look at it, i made a cute video and i thought it would be fun to make it seem like no one was driving. we had a really terrible day and it was a fun thing to do at the end of the day. >> tell us about the terrible day. >> we had one flat tire and we had to wait for a tow truck to give us gas and raise it up and we got a spare put on. but then the spare blew out and we had to wait for another tow truck driver and it was, like, three hours later. it was an eight-hour ordeal but we got to ride on the back of a tow truck so it ended up pretty well. >> that's my question, how did you convince this guy to ride along? >> if they're pulling it, you wouldn't be able to ride in it, but it was up on a flatbed, so i pulled out the guitar and started playing. >> do you want to play a song for us? ♪ six bottles of wine ♪ and a real good time ♪ oh life is playing

that sent fuel cell energy, ballard power systems and uqm technologies way down on the trading session. plug power fell to $6.03. >>> a popular yogurtmaker is looking for investors. privately owned greek style yogurt maker chobani is exploring options to raise capital seeking $5 billion. dow dow reports that an initial public of offering is not imminent but the company is considering selling a stake to a private investor or entering into a strategy partnership. >>> grocery items are expected to see sizeable price hikes that year that may change what americans are buying and eating. sarah eisen has the story. >> reporter: food inflation is coming. a new report from the united nations showing food prices jumped last month by the most in more than a year and a half after a long decline. according to the u.n. food commodity price index, cereal prices were up over 3% from january to february of this year. vegetable oil up nearly 5%. dairy up 3%. sugar up just over 6%. meat, however, was down. the reason? all of the abnormal weather not just in the united states but around the globe. global

yesterday just went really nuts and i see ballard trading up. they are trying to recover.on. >> do you think they are worth 50 cents? are these casino stocks? >> no. but they were worth a dollar just a few weeks ago and that's the kind of parabolic move that marks the top and i don't want to see a top. i obviously would like to see regular stocks come back to the fore and do well, the self-help stocks do well, but this market has been dominated by plug and ballard and fuel cell and been dominated by fannie and tesla. >> also coinciding with corporate bond defaults in china. copper story is big. and soros said europe is in for a quarter century of stagnation. is there something larger than froth coming off? >> i think our country is surprisingly strong. i had united reynolds on, the largest rental company of equipment and they are looking strong. but none of that matters because this -- when you go, like, look at a twitter, jim, how can you not love ballard, how can you not love plug? because i've been looking at those stocks for a decade. all they know how to do is lose mo

of one way streets, ballards in the street. if we look at that, to try to get people out of transit and into biking and into walking, that would be much better he. i would encourage you to increase your bicycle safety and bicycle funding. thank you. >> yeah, thank you. and you make a great point. every person on a bike is one less person on the bus or worse, in a car taking up space on the street or parking space from someone who really needs it. so, we seed that the more people we can get on bikes is very complementary to the transit first policy. and part of how we're going to achieve the goals that we have in terms of people -- how people get around the city, particularly as we see growth come into the city. we can't have everybody come and driving their own cars. the more people that are on bikes, that are walking, that are on transit, the better the city this will be. thank you. >>> my name is jerry [speaker not understood]. i guess i'm representing save muni today. you mentioned that with the same fleet you are going to b

economic relations between catholics and in ballard has continued to develop free sample taken to rein in the fall are reaching the known reached twenty one million dollars. a special delegation created for the purpose of further increasing experts of the region paid a visit to baylor it's in the beginning of the trip. the delegation visit the blog in the region this region is famous for its high level of agricultural development. to see it. we sell to russia about one thousand tons of various kinds of products mainly beef sausages. we also work with cows extent but for the one thousand tonnes per month. that was sold to russia because it's the market only gets two hundred tonnes is very little we are ready to cooperate today we held negotiations have shown that for the development is possible to what it is going to do is move into the song was the stupid it's because of a slow motion does answer prayers are interested in the college of storing fresh meats which allows a product not to lose its properties in politics for twenty five days of the moment passes and storage technologies ca

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they do that by putting a lot of one way streets, ballards in the street. if we look at that, to try to get people out of transit and into biking and into walking, that would be much better he. i would encourage you to increase your bicycle safety and bicycle funding. thank you. >> yeah, thank you. and you make a great point. every person on a bike is one less person on the bus or worse, in a car taking up space on the street or parking space from someone who really needs it. so, we seed that the more people we can get on bikes is very complementary to the transit first policy. and part of how

ballard. i'm sawyer, supervisor kim has a question. ~ [speaker not understood] innovating a lot of parks now which is awesome and they're beautiful. >> thank you. >> did the department -- what is the department doing to -- or is there -- are we actually installing water filling infrastructure in the parks as we renovate them? i know, for example, dolores park, i don't think we're doing that. maybe i'm forgetting something. can you just let me know what's happening there? >> so, in our interior facilities, that's a pretty easy -- >> a lot of parks don't have -- >> right. in our landscapes, it's a little more challenging. i actually have not looked closely at the substudent ordinance, but i believe there is lack wa in there requiring us in capital projects over a certain amount to continue to do that ~. it is our goal, as you know from participating in many of our community meetings, there is covering associated with costs, but it is a stated goal for all of our capital projects. >> and, so, in

texas competitive, they are encouraged that by 2020, more hispanics and more young people like zack ballard will become eligible. bull lard is already a democratic party volunteer, even though his father is staunchly republican. has it gone anywhere. >> sometimes it does. >> the fact that the debate is happening at both the kitchen table and across the state, is something texas see as progress. insiders do say that having texas turn blue this year would be a shocker. because of the shifts it would be a very real possibility, especially with hispanics becoming the majority of voters here. >> in dallas, good to see you, thank you. an army general on trial in north carolina, maria is here with that and other headlines from across america today. >> tony, fort brag north carolina, and army general faces possible life in prison for sexual assault charges. brigadier general was deputy commander of the 80 secondary born unit and served tours in iraq and afghanistan, prosecutors say he used his rank to force a subordinate into an affair for three years. the defense says she made up the charges. sinc

ballard, i think you said you felt the amendment was working well. would you expand on -- why is it working well? >> yes, madam chairman. that mandated that a lot of this money goes to the local folks. how money -- it can flow in different directions. we are 90% of the new jobs coming into cities. good job, and we need to continue to invest in the city to attract the talent we are talking about. it is important for indianapolis. >> that dealt with alternative transportation, did it not? >> it did. >> i think that is so important. saytors from other states they do not like the fact that some of the states get the money, instead of it going to more local people. we have a planning agency that works well, so you do not give it to the state, the state takes 10% off the top. i think you are right. i hope we can do more of that. can you expand about the problems with general electric? you have a private sector company wanting to build something. the bureaucracy is not letting it happen. i could not follow it. tell me what the problem is. >> we were going t

if it's further to the west, over by ballard, it's northwest.it's further to the east towards lake washington, it's northeast. this is going to be central, close to i-5 and the ship -- aurora, and this was built into 1911. >> let's move to our powerhouse of the week, it's in green lake, asking $1.15 million, a little over $3,000 in taxes. i'm surprised the taxes are that low compared with some of the others that were much lower sale price. three bedrooms, three baths, 2,500 square feet. where is it? what do you like about it? >> i love this house, because it's a modern, new construction. the reason the taxes are low is because it hasn't sold yet and the taxes will be based on the sale price. right now it's pending, but this came on right when the seahawks were winning the super bowl. so the market activity was a little bit lower, but it's surrounded by beautiful, classic green lake homes the, on 61st street, which is a very flat street in green lake. it's close to the tangle town section, which is a section of green lake that was platted by real

two more, maxwell technologies and ballard power systems, both up more than 40% this week, too. this as government extends more funding. we have companies adopting more clean tech, car makers like toyota and hyundai are rolling out fuel cell programs and of course, elon musk drawing attention to the shortage of lithium doesn't hurt either. companies in the space are small and many haven't turned a profit yet. going back to plug, saying it will make money in 2014 but until now, it's been losing millions of dollars, going back to the chart we saw at the beginning. at its peak, it was over $150, then went down to a penny stock. now we are seeing this surge again. keep that in mind. it's been an electrifying run but this could be an electrifying fall if returns don't catch up to the street. >> the money has to come in at some point or that stock will run into some trouble. thanks very much. >>> it is the fifth anniversary of the bull market this weekend. our wealth editor robert frank has been looking at who has made the very most since the market hit the bottom back on march 9th of

ballard power, fuel cell energy, plug power, not doing a lot today.is not a misquote, guys, i had to trouble check it when i looked at the data, plug power in the last 12 months is up 3800%. they got a deal with walmart buying fuel cells for forklifts at a couple distribution centers. 3800% in 12 months. >> you put me on the spot and i was thinking well, 100%, whatever. i thought it was a typo as well. here's the thing. i think the thinking behind some of the gains we have seen in the last couple days for these fuel cell makers like plug power is electric cars could extend their range using that type of technology. but elon musk is out there on the record, saying he thinks fuel cells are absolutely not the solution. he's an electric car man through and through. >> that's the challenge. there are other type of alternative power battery technologies that are coming up and if those come out, all this stuff is for naught. >> very good point. let's turn from alternative energy to traditional energy. sharon epperson is at the ihs conference. sharon, we will

mayor ballard, you are such an eloquent voice for this alternative transportation program. if there is a way for you to get a few mayors on a letter, as many as possible, to me and to senator vitter, and i know you have just a few here who i think will sign it, it would mean a lot. frankly, i do not want to see this thing go into another meltdown. that, could help us with it would be hugely important. i know there are some people in the audience who are going to be advising on it. know, this is a must-have for a lot of us. we want to make sure it happens. sure thatted to make you know -- i think you do. we took many steps to streamline the last though. i have them all listed. i will not go into all of them. states the to all previously enacted pilot program allowing states to assume the responsibilities of the secretary of transportation under the environmental review process. in my state, there is no federal environmental process. is that right? it, and thens shows it to the feds and says, it is a -- an equivalent process. you could do it, and as long as it is done well, i

dias-ballard. >> i was listening to you before and you were talking about florida. we would be remiss without thanking chairman rogers. remember how he was so aggressive about the pill mills. and florida had, frankly, a huge issue there. and so that was -- we've seen some good results of that. let me just throw out another issue which i know very little about. which is this issue of synthetic marijuana. what's -- i saw some things in newscasts recently. i guess there have been some deaths. and i know that our attorney general in the state of florida has been very aggressive. and as the formulas change, she's constantly looking at just trying to update that legislation which is obviously much quicker eer on the state l than it is here on the federal level. tell me your thoughts about that. how big of an issue is it, and, you know, what's your thoughts on that? and then the second question -- let me just go with that one first. then we'll -- >> sure. so the issue of synthetics has also been a significant concern for us in terms of a number of different areas. so one i

plug, fcel, ballard. it on friday and whether or not this is -- can be sustained in any stretch. >> well, look, these are all companies that are -- that have tangential relationship with solar, you get one big contract from a walmart, people go crazy. when i look my twitter feed, all people want me to talk about is plug. that does worry me. you see that level of enthusiasm, tends not to be a bottom. but at the same time, if you can cordon it off, that's my thing, if you cordon it off. the more areas you add to that bubble the less conviction you have because obviously a lot of people are piling into a name that 4 they do not know or understand. >> jim you can't see it the chart for plug, looks like the chart for bitcoin at the height. i mean it's parabolic, frankly. >> a lot of pair ab bolic. there's raw enthusiasm. we don't want to see that. i've been spending a lot of time on companies that make cell phones to be more interesting that don't have a lot of earnings. another group people are piling in. the

taken the search for evidence of the flood to the depths of the nearby black sea as archaeologist gob ballardlove it. >> reporter: and enduring mystery and a tale with enduring appeal. one that the makers of this new film hope will make waves at the box office. for "good morning america," dan harris, abc news, new york. >> and "noah" is already doing that. we're excited to have its star russell crowe with us this morning. i saw it yesterday with a group of people and i'm telling you, the reaction was just -- we went to lunch after and that's all that we could do was to talk about it. you played so many different characters. first time playing a biblical character much how do you approach it? >> well, you don't really approach it from that perspective. you just try to find the, you know, the humanity in the perpendicular you're playing and bring it down to a human scale. i mean, if you stood back from it and tried to play the resonance of the story i think you'd get yourself tangled up, you know. so it's just a matter of really looking at the man, looking at the time that he lived in, looking

a vengeance after a midseason hiatus and so excited to have the charismatic scott foley, aka jake ballard i'm watching an episode, what can possibly happen next and then i read people scream at your table readings, actual characters are screaming when you're reading what happens next. >> well, we're as big fans of the show as you guys are, you know, we love finding out what happens next so when you guys get to see the new episodes, the new episodes for us are the table reads. right? so we are as excited as anybody to find out what happens to this character or that character. truly crazy. >> what could possibly happen next? >> everything. that's the great thing about this show. they cram so much story into every episode. i've been on television shows that have lasted for four years that have had as much story as one episode. >> one episode you're kissing olivia and the next you're hating each other and there's a great competition between you and fitz. >> you're a fan. >> honestly i was binge watching last night. i'll be honest. is it wrong that my older daughter kind of watched with me too

. >> we turn to the honorable greg bauer -- ballard. >> thank you, chairman boxer. i very much appreciate you allowing me to testify today. american cities are preparing for a great revival. when our country built the interstate highway system itrting in the 1950's, enabled an exit this. we are witnessing a re-migration to the cities. onnsportation centered centers. our city faces a much different transportation need. people will move back to the suburbs and commute to the city. a growing number of people are choosing to live local, shop local, and eat local. they want access to an authentic urban lifestyle and they won it right outside their front door. last month, richard wrote an article in the magazine about what entrepreneurs want looking for a place to start a business. talent ranked number one. they all ranks near the top of that list. the battle for american cities will retract -- attract and retain talent. onto thank you for the funding you have previously sent to local governments these types of projects. we use it with local funds to build a variety of tr

coming on that do this kind of drilling but there are pockets of undervaluation just like there's ballard cell. overvaluation, undervaluation, that makes it all fine for me. >> what do you mean fine, jim? when you hear the guys like warren buffett, seth klarman, a lot ever other guys we were just talking about speak about the market in terms of being fairly valued, fully valued, what do you think? >> well, when did seth klarman turn negative? we should look into that. >> a couple years. >> did he just turn negative last week? as a former performance manager, if i said -- when i got in the business in 1979 the market was radically overvalued. '82 it was overvalued. '87 it was ridiculous. you have to look at whether they're saying the market is versus individuals. if you think ensco is overvalued, you haven't done any homework. if you think that fuel cell companies are cheap, then you obviously have lost your mind. but that's okay. what i'm say something that there are sections of the market that are overvalued and sections that are undervalued and a lot of stuff that's fairly valued. we ha

ballard power systems fuel cell energy and uqm technologies also falling in sympathy. good day for jcpenney. citi upgraded the retailer to buy from neutral saying the company can continue to deliver same-store sales that are positive as it updates it's merchandise mix. getting a price target up, too. joseph a. banks and mens wear house rising. we end with mcdonald's. making positive comments at the bank of america consumer and retail conference. bill, back to you. >> court, thank you very much. >>> if you have been to the grocery store lately, you have probably been hit with sticker shock. >> what's causing this food price inflation? it's happening globally. how long will it last? sara eisen is here. >> you have this unlikely group of factors that's driving up prices of commodities. a new report from the united nations shows food prices jumped last month by the most in more than a year and a half after a pretty long steady decline. look at some of the gains here according to this u.n. food commodity price index. cereal prices up over 3%. this is at global level. that's

plug power is up nearly eight-fold since january 1st and ballard power is up five-fold.ctivist investor elliott associates has taken a stake in boyd gaming. elliott says the stock is undervalued and represents an attractive investment opportunity. jcpenney was upgraded to buy from neutral at citi which says it believes a retailer can continue to deliver positive same-store sales growth, thanks to an updated merchandise mix as well as some other changes. coming up, a check on the markets and what investors will be focused on in today's trading session. then, you just heard from boone pickens about our nation's pipelines. we'll have the ceo of pipeline giant end link midstream. if you haven't heard of it, it's because it used to be cross techs and part of devon. >>> and senator rob portman reveals his jobs across america plan. "squawk box" is back right after this break. latte or au lait? sunny or bubbly? cozy or cool? "meow" or "woof"? wheels or wheeeels? everything exactly the way you want it ...until boom, it's bedtime. your mattress isn't bliss: it's a battleground of

both fuel cell energy, plug power and ballard power systems are all trading higher in premarket tradinge been rising on a growing demand for cleaner alternatives to traditional batteries. plug power is up six-fold this year. it recently won a contract with walmart for fuel cells in the retailer's warehouses. >> should we go back to the article we saw this morning in "the new york times" on bill ackman? "new york times" front page is laying out a big story, the lead story that looks at the bet bill ackman has made against herbalife. it takes a look at what was done in the back behind the scenes. obviously both herbalife and bill ackman has spent time on this. herbalife says it spent over $2 billion? am i making that up? >> how much did he spend? he spent a couple hundred thousand. >> maybe it's 2 million. >> it's a $6 billion company. >> they must have spent 2 million. he must have spent 236,000. i think i added three numbers to each of those numbers. it lays out what ackman has done. he had dinner with linda sanchez, a democrat from california. she sent a letter to the federal trade com

professor, just remember it took 75 years after the titanic sunk before bob ballard found it.uldn't take anything up because it's so far down. >> that's right. there i suspect if they find the debris -- if that debris turns out to be the wings of the aircraft and i think there is some good possibility that is the case -- you can use some of the ocean models to determine where it landed, where it hit the ocean 'cause we would know about the time, we know the ocean currents fairly well. when a ship would go there with some of the same instruments we use to find the titanic and sent down there. but i think we're talking about many months, if not a year or so before such an expedition could be put together. i do think they'll find it in the same way they found the titanic. >> i want you to listen now maria molina. she's our meteorologist. she has a question for you. >> he's actually my professor at columbia. hi, professor. >> hi. >> thank you so much for coming on at last moment. i wanted to bring something specific up to you, which is a specific trench that's located across the s

ballard was up 10% earlier this morning.h cramer about it yesterday, guys, the parabolic move in some of the names as, i don't know, it's not like they suddenly turned profitable. plug did have a major contract win getting its cells into forklifts at walmart. he was on "squawk on the street" on friday. that got the squeeze going, but for three straight days this has been going on. >> extraordinary. >> that's extraordinary. the stock was in pennies not that long ago, i believe, right? >> yeah. yeah. >> that's amazing. i did want to take a look, come back briefly to a story, we don't have a lot of movement in the stocks but it was something that happened last week, the disney, dish deal. the new contract between if you will disney and the satellite company dish. a lot of people continue to think about that deal because while it was complicated at the time, although i think our own simon hobbs picked up on it, there was this over-the-top offering that conceivably is now going to be able to be made by dish to its customer base t

wow, that's a better froth stock than ballard power, jim, why are you saying that has less froth.i'll get a triple cappuccino. i don't want it in the stock market. >> hey, jim, what do you think of juniper here? it's up this morning and got upgraded over at wells. there's a little bit of activism going on with the story. >> yeah, juniper's pretty interesting because this subtext of every juniper upgrade, every positive juniper is basically, look, they're really starting to pants cisco. you remember the downgrade of cisco yesterday basically saying i felt that the undercurrent was cisco's missing the big spend cycle. there is a radically different spend cycle everywhere from china to the united states and europe and people think juniper has the right stuff. they have a soup-to-nuts solution. a lot of the optical plays, the f5 and the tan genital, i wish i could speak to them. i think people are perceiving juniper as the winner and cisco the loser. i know cisco never likes to be heard as the loser but, do you know what, it's not my job to make winners out of losers. >> hey, jim, qui

the stock is up 380% this year, and ballard and fuel cell have also been on a tear. plug power's ceo appeared on this program and he expects his company to become profitable in this year. >> in 2014 we'll make money and it's because we've been building this company for five or six years. we focused on a market where fuel cells could make a difference today. and we put it into ehecktronic trucks. we convinced customers like bmw, walmart that our units dramatically improve the product i. of their organization. >> got to make a disclaimer, of course, market cap here relatively low given the companies we normally talk about, but this is quickly becoming as we talked about with jim yesterday sort of the poster child for froth in the current market. >> one of the cult stocks to a certain extent. >> a penny stock last year. >> it was. >> less than a dollar. >> that's just shocking. you know, history will tell you most of the time these things don't pan out. but -- >> but they are getting orders. >> i wouldn't want to pass judgment. i know there have been various people on b