here he is, bringing out a woman who say classic sort of annie oakley, cat balou type, a country womand wolves and goes out there in ski mobiles and all that sort of outdoorsy stuff, off-road vehicles she sort of stands for. i think she'll appeal to the countrywomen out there, if she can bring them aboard, it's all a plus. ballyhoo, by the way, about the fight, i think pt barnum was right. if you want a crowd, start a fight. if trump wins in iowa, it's a huge win for him. if there were a candidate c, can't be that big guy from new jersey. i mean, that's a joke. it isn't john kasich, he's not big enough. it's not jeb, he's yesterday. there just isn't a candidate c to pick up that usual benefit when a and b go to war with each other. i think a wins the battle and if he does, he's going to win the whole ball game. >> where else are you going to get references to cat balou, fred astaire, ginger rogers -- >> and annie oakley. >> and annie oakley. so it begins. >> and if she's willing to take it to the next step, and be a surrogate, look, the only other campaign that has a powerful surrogate