>> bamberger: well, i wouldn't do it here. all, but i'm wise enough, smart enough to know, if there's no incentive, if altruism is the only incentive, you're not going to get a great deal of participation on someone whose livelihood depends on bringing in dollars. >> pat condy: you'd think you were in africa. look at the giraffe sitting there. >> logan: we turned to one of the world's top conservationists, pat condy, who lives in texas, to find out what he thought. >> condy: that's the scimitar- horned oryx. altogether, on different ranches, many different ranches, there are somewhere between 6,000 and 10,000 of these animals. >> logan: pat condy has devoted his life to saving animals, and he showed us around the fossil rim wildlife center, outside of dallas, which he runs. it's a world leader in breeding rare and endangered animals. >> hello, giraffe. >> logan: and it's also a place where tourists can get closer to these beautiful creatures than they ever could in the wild. do you think that texas ranches are saving animals f