you'll see the genius of steve bannon. >> bannon staged a media coup.rump campaign never looked back. >> right now a historic moment. cnn projects donald trump wins the presidency. >> i went to the president and said, sir, you need to get dressed. you've won. i remember bannon standing right there next to me, and bannon was like, yeah, you won, sir. everyone got pretty emotional obviously. i am today. one of those moments i'll never forget. i can see bannon was proud. everyone was really proud. the president walked up to me. good job, brad, you really did a good job, but just don't stand next to me on stage. >> because you're too tall. >> because i'm too tall. >> the last thing donald trump said before being president of the united states is don't stand next to me. >> what was bannon thinking at the time that he created this political revolution and now he'd have the kind of bannon he only dreamed about. >> bannon was chief strategist and senior counsellor to the president of the united states. >> this american carnage stops right here and stops right n

bannon's a busy guy. even before he met trump, bannon was a man who wore many hats -- or in his case, shirts. navy, harvard, georgetown, goldman sachs, bannon seemed drawn to odd projects, such as the 1993 science escapade known as biosphere ii. >> the structure held seven small scale versions of the earth's various zones. here monitoring plant, animal and atmospheric changes. >> it's been referred to in the past as a planet in a bottle. >> bannon has a real eye, a keen eye, for opportunities. for instance, he bought a stake in royalties for a little show in the '90s that maybe you heard of. ♪ but in addition to that quality, singing opportunities, bannon has also long been drawn to a hostile, radical nationalism. after making some right wing documentaries, bannon became a founding member of the board breitbart.com, where bannon eventually assumed the helm and helped turn it proudly into a website for the so-called alt-right. at the time, even right wing talk show host glen beck thought bannon extreme and

apparently bannon said the same thing. but there is a bulletproof process under way as far as going forward. >> reporter: yes, he did say that. as lisa made clear earlier, that's not at all -- that's extremely debatable to put it charitably. the justice department filed a brief this morning arguing that this advice of counsel thing was a red herring. when you look at the evidence in the case, he was using it as a shield. he never intended to comply. the record is clear about that. he thumbed his nose at the whole process. it wasn't about executive privilege or advice of council, he didn't want to cooperate with the january 6th committee and he didn't turn over documents. and so if they win the appeal, then there will be a new trial and all that will get litigated. and that obviously will take a long time. for that reason, bannon is sort of waxing victorious today. he has a four-month prison sentence and he was -- he's only too happy to have the megaphone and talk about impeaching the attorney general when -- if and when re

to steve bannon.hich i'm sure will continue as he reacted to his sentence of four months. he seems actually relatively pleased with the outcome and also promising there will be an appeal. and taking the opportunity in the way that i guess steve bannon is saying to tell people to vote on november 8th. so there you have it. we're standing by at this very same moment to hear from president biden. touting what he sees as his administration's economic accomplishments. he's going to be speaking with the white house but his target audience far from there. every voter whose mind isn't made up about the midterm elections, that is his target audience today. later this afternoon president biden heads to delaware to tout his student debt relief plan. millions of americans have already applied for loan forgiveness through that program. jeremy diamond is live at the white house with more on this. jeremy, what are we expecting to hear from the president today? >> reporter: well, president biden has been talking abou

sara, the judge seemed pretty dismissive of bannon's efforts to defy the subpoena, but ultimately bannonot jail time, which is had more or less what the government wanted. >> reporter: that's right, i mean, the sentence is a little bit less than what the government was asking for. they wanted him to have six months behind bars, a $200,000 fine. the judge settled on four months behind bars and a $6,500 fine. bannon didn't want any jail time at all, he wanted probation. the judge made pretty clear today that was not going to happen, that there was going to be some period of incarceration, but, you know, in a big win for ban the judge said all of this is going to be delayed pending his a deal. so if bannon is successful in his appeal, if he's able to overturn his conviction, of course, he would not face any time behind bars. if he is not successful he's looking at that four months and he's looking at that fine. one of the things the judge made clear as we were going through the sentencing today is he pointed out that steve bannon didn't show any remorse for defying a subpoena, for testimony

and so in many ways the sentence that bannon gets is a lot more than about bannon. it is about bannon and everyone else as well. >> and on that note, president trump we know has just hired a new attorney, new counsel in light of this anticipated subpoena from congress. what do you make of this hire? i know that she has represented others that have been close to the president as well throughout the investigation, the january 6 investigation. >> well, it is interesting in that he seems to have finally figured out that the quality of his representation actually materially impacts his ability to respond to the legal troubles he's facing. the dylan law firm has a pretty good reputation and is likely to give him good advice. whether he takes it or not is a different question. but at least he's -- he seeps to have understood that he needs good lawyers. i hope they got their fee up front. >> yeah. michael flynn was presented throughout this investigation. paul rosen, thank you. >> thank you very much. >>> and our coverage continues tonight at 11:00 as our drew griffin digs

long-time trump adviser steve bannon is back in court. this time awaiting sentencing after he was found guilty on two counts of contempt of congress. we'll take you live outside the courthouse and explain what happens if the appeals court decision goes one way or another. and with just 18 days to go until the critical mid-term elections, president biden continues his mid-term push. next hour he'll give live reports touting his economic plan. >>> plus, we'll head out west on one of the key races that could decide control of the senate. the biden administration now says it has evidence iran sent troops to crimea to train russian soldiers to use those iranian-made drones. we'll bring you a live report from kyiv. >>> and we begin this hour with the sentencing hearing now underway for former trump adviser steve bannon as he arrived at the federal court house in washington this morning. bannon spoke briefly thanking the press before attacking the biden administration who was convicted in july of two counts of contempt of congress for failing to

the prosecutor said bannon thumbed his nose at democracy., thousands of americans get ordered to show up to legal proceedings. people don't respond to official proceedings and there are no consequences, the legal system would collapse. he appeals, but at some point, even if he wins the appeal, he will have to answer in court. there will just be another trial. >> jeremy, you wrote the book on how steve bannon saw donald trump as the lightning rod to take control of the republican party. help pull back the curtain on how he was exiled by trump and then brought in ahead of the riot. >> like just about anybody in trump world, you are never really out, because ultimately, he will pull you back in or in steve bannon's case, you will find a way to work your way back in if it suits you politically and financially. what bannon always did for trump was give him the kind o vocabulary to speak with the right wing populist nationalist edge. but he did something crucial in helping trump better understand and really thumb his nose at the political norms an

steve bannon was scheduled to be sentenced today. he has chosen not to speak inside that courtroom that you see there. however, they have now sentenced steve bannon on two counts of criminal contempt of congress and what they are saying is four months. we have leo terrell, a civil rights attorney, standing by on the phone to talk with me right now. we knew this was coming, leo. i don't think there is any surprise that steve bannon actually would not want to speak on this. he pretty much has not said much on this. let's go to our reporter griff jenkins. >> yeah, just breaking four months. now, the prosecution was asking for six months jail time and $200,000 fine. now a much smaller fine of $6500 it appears from our court reporter inside as well as four months jail time. now, harris, you have to step back a little bit because the last time we saw anyone charged with contempt of congress was rita lavelle in 1983, an ab secure epa agency official from the reagan years. that's why bannon's defense was arguing they should give him some pro

bannon sentenced to prison. we have more details on that story later tonight because it's not our top story yet. and another subpoena class, senator lindsey graham lost again. he's been ordered to testify in georgia, he's now trying to get an emergency appeal to the supreme court which recently rejected trump's appeal in the classified document case. we take it all together, and what you have is a lot of people involved in trying to violently overthrow the government or otherwise steal the election who are doing everything they can to avoid telling the truth, mr. bannon, taking a prison sentence for it. mr. graham going all the way to the supreme court rather than just say the truth about what the heck he was up to in georgia. and mr. trump, who is now a citizen of this country bound by the laws of this country, well, weighing what to do about a new subpoena out tonight. we turn to two experts on this, maya wiley, president of the leadership conference of human and civil rights a former new york city mayoral can

steve bannon, now a convicted criminal, a message sent. you don't defy a subpoena.s a fly in the ointment from the prosecution's point of view, the judge stayed the sentence pending appeal. he doesn't have to serve the sentence anytime soon because he will be allowed to pursue his appeal. he believes he should be able to tell the jury he acted on the advice of lawyers when he defied the subpoena. the judge acknowledged that is a legitimate issue. >> joyce, do you see grounds for appeal? >> well, bannon is going to make this argument and it should be vetted out on appeal. we give criminal defendants the opportunity post conviction to test whether there was error that might mean their conviction was wrong. that's an issue for the court of appeals to determine. in terms of this release the judge ordered for bannon while the appeal is pending seems to violate the federal standards which say you can only release a defendant while an appeal is pending if there's a substantial issue on trial. here there's no substantial issue because the law is very clear. no reason to bel

bannon to mr. trump. suppose the former president defies the subpoena and that congress votes to refer him to the justice department to -- for contempt charges does the justice department have the appetite to really take that one on >> i think that's going to be more tricky here, tyler. i mean, for one thing, remember bannon was out of office, he was in the white house as a white house adviser until august of 2017 so he'd been out of the white house in terms of a staff member for more than three years by the time january 6th rolled around and of course president trump was president on january 6th so it strikes me that this is not the kind of case that the justice department would be terribly interested in bringing. they obviously have other irons in the fire in terms of the mar-a-lago documents issue, as well as other aspects of january 6th. and i don't think a contempt of congress case is the kind of one that the justice department would want to take up if that's indeed their decision to go forward with

what else did the judge have to say, and how did bannon respond?> reporter: well, john, today in court judge carl nichols at the federal district courthouse essentially endorsed the validity of the house select committee saying the investigation that they are doing, trying to get information from january 6th and the attack of the capitol it was valid. bannon clearly never turned over any document, didn't show up for testimony. he could have potentially turned over something, anything. not everything would be protected by confidentiality or privileges, and he said in his view bannon had not taken responsibility for his actions, was not showing remorse, and, indeed, bannon himself didn't speak in court. he said i'm going to let my lawyers speak for me by his lawyer david schoen stood up and spoke for half an hour, a very long time, the longest unadulterated speech that anyone gave in court today, and much of it was railing against the house committee saying bannon has no apologies at all. after court, here's what bannon said as well, even though he d

bannon can't waive it. the supreme court will take a look at this and say we are tossing the conviction. >> sean: thank you all. when we come back our friends lj, lawrence jones spoke to hispanic voters in miami. what they said and are democrats in a panic in georgia? is herschel walker the likely favorite in that race? it seems like it. the virginia lt. governor sears when we come back. of up to $26,000 per employee, even if you got ppp. and all it takes is eight minutes to find out. then we'll work with you to fill out your forms and submit the application. that easy. getrefunds.com has helped businesses like yours claim over $1 billion in payroll tax refunds. but it's only available for a limited time. go to getrefunds.com powered by innovation refunds. scout is protected by simparica trio, and he's in it to win it. simparica trio is the first and only chew with triple protection. oh, fleas and ticks ♪ intestinal worms... wow heartworm disease, no problem with simarica trio. this drug class has been asso

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she appeared on bannon's war room program this week, and bannon has had her on a lot, to promote andtive agency. you can leave your magnifying glass at home. mitchell claims to have trained more than 20,000 people in election law, so they can observe, document, and report whatever they believe was fraud. as bennett puts it, the plan is to, quote, adjudicate every battle. so, an army election denying poll workers, plus an army of election denying poll watchers, what can go wrong? earlier this week, i sat down with one of the people who will have to deal with all of this, firsthand. his name is don millis, and he's the republican chair of the bipartisan election commission in the battleground state of wisconsin. don millis was appointed to that position after his predecessor abruptly resigned earlier this year, citing the avalanche of criticism he got for simply stating that donald trump lost the 2020 election. needless to say, don notice has his work cut out for him. >> election day is less than a month out, and it sounds like you are expecting a record number of election observers. >

bannon to mr. trump. suppose the former president dephiing the subpoena and congress invokes to refer him to the justice department for contempt charges. does the justice department have the appetite to take that one on >> i think that's going to be more tricky here, tyler. for one thing, remember, bannon was out of office. he was in the white house as a white house advisor until august of 2017. he had been out of the white house in terms of staff member more than three years by the time january 6 rolled around. president trump was president on january 6. it strikes me this is not the kind of case the justice department would be terribly interested in bringing. they obviously have other irons in the fire in terms of the mar-a-lago document issue and other aspects of january 6. i don't think contempt of congress case is one the justice department would want to take up if that's, indeed, their decision to go forward with some kind of prosecution of the former president. >> josh thank you very much. we appre

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steve bannon was sentenced to 4 months.artment of justice official who prosecuted steve bannon is a partisan democrat. what we are seeing is the corruption of the rule of law. some other congressmen attended but never spent a day in jail. steve bannon joins us for his first interview since sentencing. do you agree with matt gates it's partisan? >> 100%. merrick garland has become totally partisan. i believe after november 8 you will see mayor garland impeached. >> tucker: people who say 4 months in prison is not a big deal have never been in prison. do you plan to submit? >> number 1, the judge laid out a number of areas to appeal. i have a great legal team. they are working on the appeals right now. we have appeals on separation of powers and executive privilege and the structure of the january 6th committee. they will work through the appeals process. my sentencing is all pending the appeals process. at the end of the day i have to go to prison by this illegitimate regime, i am prepared to do it but we have a long appeals

bannon's lawyers argue he should get only probation. they also have asked bannon be allowed to remain free until his lawyers are able to appeal the sentence. nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian is live outside the courthouse in washington. ken, good morning. what should we expect here today? >> reporter: good morning, willie. as you mentioned, we saw steve bannon come in, he was heckled by members of the crowd, he gave his usual sort of commentary about having -- wanting to defeat the biden regime. you may recall he said he was going to do that at his trial. didn't work out that way. took a jury about three hours to convict him of these two counts of contempt of congress. and now he faces the music. as you mention, the justice department is really arguing to throw the book at steve bannon. they're arguing for the max here. in a new filing this morning, they take on directly this argument you need to get probation, saying that the law clearly states there's a mandatory minimum here of 30 years in jail. they also

>> bannon has been prosecuted -- prepared and well to see the color orange. this prosecution is about criminal because they refused to testify in turnover materials to the january six committee. that's been sure of three other people as well, for people who didn't turn over material to people -- referrals for action against. the reason this is important is twofold. number one, bannon obviously broke the law, and then has vocally defied compliance, even after he's been prosecuted. so for example, he didn't even comply with a normal probation department financial interview, which are normally supposed to do after you've been convicted. because, that the justice department just fine, we'll impose the maximum fine on, you $200, 000, because you won't even bother complying with the most remit rudimentary basics of the legal procedure. one thing is just straight-up ban, and making sure that he's in jail, and the justice department's filing today goes a long way towards bannon looking at a jail sentence but a, second more important principle, is this idea that the t

steve bannon sentence todd jail time, what message does that send? >> i think it send as message that congressional subpoenastod time, what message does that send? >> i think it send as message that congressional subpoenas are very serious and you can't ignore them, you can't position yourself above the law. and if you think that you can rely on nonsubstantive arguments like executive privilege even though you have not worked in the white house no for many yea and you were acting as a private citizen, that you can find yourself like steve bannon being convicted and being sentenced to the upper limit of a sentencing guidelines of four months. we know he has a fine of about $6500. so i think that the judge in this case is trying to send a message to those other trump loyalists if they continue to stone wall, if they continue to refuse to cooperate like peter navarro, that they can also find themselves like steve bannon facing real jail time. >> another legal development, a federal court has temporarily put the debt relief plan on hold. and i wanted to

bannon has some culpability. bannon had very little reaction to this today, though when the judge did say to him in court i'm going to not have you serve the sentence if you file an appeal, bannon seemed to smirk a little bit and exited with his attorneys outside the court. his attorney did say they believe an appeal is bulletproof and we do expect them to try to appeal on the law around subpoenas from congress. >> okay. katelyn polantz, thank you for that update. let's discuss now with andrew mccabe former deputy fbi director and norm ivan the special counsel for the house judiciary committee in president trump's first impeachment trial. norm, first your overall reaction to this sentence and its potential broader impact. >> ana, it's a reminder that in the united states no one is above the law. mr. bannon received a lawful subpoena, he refused to supply, he was contemptuous, he's getting a prison sentence. contrary to what his attorneys say it is far from -- his appeal is far from bulletproof. i think that he wi

bannon remains free tonight as he appeals his conviction. learning new details about those classified documents seized from mar-a-lago in august. cbs' scott macfarlane is going to start us off tonight from capitol hill. good evening, scott. >> reporter: good evening, norah. more than a year into its probe, the house january 6 select committee wants to put the man at the center of its investigation under oath, seeking critical records from donald trump by november 4. that's four days before the midterm election, and seeking his deposition one week after. the january 6 committee today demanded testimony and documents from the former president, arguing he played a central role in trying to subvert the election and triggered the assault on the capitol. in the letter accompanying the subpoena, they write, "the evidence demonstrating that you knew this activity was illegal and unconstitutional, and also knew that your assertions of fraud were false." panel member pete aguilar said they're open to questioning trump in a live hearing. >> we're going

the subpoena issued just hours after trump's former top advisor steve bannon was sentenced to prison for contempt of congress. what if donald trump doesn't comply with the committee? pierre thomas standing by. >>> cases of children hospitalized withes repower story illness are spreading across the country. 43 states now reporting a surge in young patients. a mother and son in texas riding in an ambulance for 80 minutes, trying to find a hospital with space. the cdc on which age group is being impacted the most. >>> overseas, president zelenskyy's urgent new warning, claiming russia is now threatening to blow up a major dam at a hydroelectric plant, accusing russian forces of mining the area. ukraine now rationing power. millions now bracing for a brutal winter. britt clennett in ukraine. >>> showdown in arizona. election deniers in key races up and down the ballot. jonathan karl one-on-one with republican candidate for governor kari lake. the former tv news anchor pressed -- will she accept the election results if she loses? and the question about the results for her democratic oppon

steve bannon's case at trial it was very simple. he got a subpoena from the house an and he didn't show up and the people that were serving in the administration might have more broadly and he was convicted. and today he got his sentence. he's going to appeal. there are a lot of legal arguments that could arise and there are a lot of things courts could do. it gets even more complicated whenever this becomes something that donald trump, who was the former president, would be arguing about his time in office. and so we're just going to have to wait and see exactly what happens there in the court. although bannon -- or sorry, the house did get a boost from the judge today saying they are a valid committee and investigation is valid. >> everybody stand by. we're getting breaking news just coming into cnn. i want to bring in cnn supreme court reporter ariane de vogue. >> lindsey graham has just gone to the supreme court with an emergency petition. he's asking the justices to halt a subpoena issued requiring him to appear before that geo

the judge says he will hold off on the sentence until annon appeals. >> bannon is also facing separate legal issues in new york where last month, prosecutorcharged him with money laundering, conspiracy, andscheming to defraud people that donated to his border wall project. >>> bannon has called those charges politic motivated. >>> coming up next on the news at noon, a week of great deals estaurant week kicks off wi eed to know to snag the best deal. ô after a two year hiatus, one of the bay area's most iconic homes is bringing its famous halloween haunt. inside look at how one person ight of fright at the winchester mystery house in san jose. >> reporter: it's considered one of the most haunted places in the world. the winchester mystery house. >> right over our heads, we hear, knock, knock, knock. >> reporter:lots of people ave walked the lo wig scare sta opens the doors that lead to nowhere including susan elance. and she wears many hats. >> you'll just look for i check it. >> reporter: during this time of year, she is brave enough to take on another task. dimming thlights to help tr

bannon's case shows there can be consequences.amongst all this, you wonder is everyone following as closely as we are? well, in a sense, maybe yes, because those hearings, which were televise across cable, cluzing fox news, were a big enough deal that people get the joke if it wasn't the opener, the kind of cold open this week. but with that comes the cost, the price for some of the people involved. a lot of satire focusing fun at some of the people running the committee. >> i would first like to recognize the gentle lady from wyoming who i am shocked to say has become my best friend. >> thank you, bennie. over the past few months this bipartisan committee has presented our case to all americans. whether you're a republican who's not watch organize a democrat who's nodding so hard your head is falling off, one person is responsible for this insurrection, donald trump. and one person will suffer the consequences, me. >> that's the punch line, although electorally so far it's also true. meanwhile, back outside of parody land, a cong

after trump's former top advisor steve bannon was sentenced to prison for contempt of congress. congress. comply with the committee? pierre thomas standing by. >>> cases of children hospitalized with respiratory story illness are spreading across the country. 43 states now reporting a surge in young patients. a mother and son in texas riding in an ambulance for 80 minutes, trying to find a hospital with space. the cdc on which age group is the cdc on which age group is the cdc on which age group is the cdc on which age group is the cdc on which age group is >> up >> ukr>> ukraine now. milmillip millions now br brutal winter. r >> sho. eler election deniers in kr keyp key races up a ballot. r >>p >> it>> it's gre vt us on a friday . r >>>p >> to provide d testimony. with a preliminary response. that subpoena sent just hour after a federal judge sentenced longtime trump adviser steve bannon to four months behind bars for refusing to cooperate with the same house committee that has now subpoenaed the former president. the question tonight, will former president trump comply? and wh

bannon is seeking probation. the doj is pushing back on a request by bannon to delay serving any seasntence while hi appeal of the conviction place out. i want to bring in katelyn polantz, live outside of the federal court in washington with more on what we can expect here. katelyn? >> reporter: today is really a test of how much punishment will be delivered to someone who was flouting a congressional subpoena. that is what happened with steve bannon. he was convicted of two charges in the federal court, just a couple of months ago for failing to turn over documentses, and failing to sit for congress and the house select committee as they investigated january 6th and the attack on their own body. they have now come to court. they want the court to enforce this and provide some sort of sentence here. going into this morning's proceedings, we know that the minimum sentence that bannon will receive would be 30 days in jail, at the very least. it could go up much higher than that. the justice department would like it

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what we know is that steve bannon is trying to get out of any kind of jail time. he was convicted on two counts for refusing to show up for a subpoena to testify before congress and refusing to hand over documents. the government has asked that he spend six months behind bars and they said he should pay a $200,000 fine. now, bannon's team has said, look, at the most he should get probation, he listened to his attorneys' advice and if you are going to put him behind bars it should be house arrest only. they are also saying bannon plans to appeal his conviction and they're saying that any punishment he receives should essentially be put on hold while that appeal plays out. the government has taken issue with that as well saying, no, look, he did nothing to try to accommodate the process, did nothing to try to accommodate the january 6th committee, whatever sentence is hand ds down today he should have to serve it immediately. of course, things are just going to get under way in a few minutes in the courtroom and we will wait and see and what judge makes of all of th

elie, bannon faces sentencing on friday. the six months near the top of the guidelines.they'll get what they're asking for? >> well, they might well, ana, let me show you why, the crime he's convicted of is contempt of congress. that carries six months behind bars now it carries a minimum mandatory sentence of one month behind bars which makes it curious that bannon's lawyers just asked for probation. he cannot get probation, he has to get at least one month behind bars but in the federal system, you have to look at guidelines and what those are advisory ranges that the judge has to consult. the range is between one and six months. as prosecutors do, they're asking for the top of that range, six months. prosecutors are making the point to the judge, this is not just any contempt case, this is something that prosecutors wrote in the memo. quote, the rioters who overrode the capitol on january 6 didn't just attack the building they assaulted the rule of law by flouting a subpoena and its authority. and the defendant exacerbated that assault. we heard both side. weigh in, a

today, bannon was sentenced to four months in federal prison at the request of that steve bannon was sentenced to 4 months committee. congressman matt gaetz has pointed out the department of justice official who prosecute.o steve bannon, a man called matthew graves, is a partisan democrat. bannon he was on joe biden's domestic policy committee in the twenty what w campaign and worked for other democratic campaigns. >> so what we're seeing clearly is the corruption of the rule of law. >> congress held lois lerner and eric holder in contempt famously, but of course, they never spent a day in jail. but never spen they were never going to because they were faithful democrats. >> steve bannon joins for his first interview since his sentencing. >> he ben, thanks so much fort e coming on set. e you agree with matt gates thateg this is partisan? h matt that's 100%. i mean, the whole just a department under merrick garland has become radically partisan. and i think that'sn? after we win on november 8th to deliver this crushing blow agains t the democratic party, this regime. tucker, i strongl

sara, is steve bannon's sentence a warning for the former president?i think the committee wants it to be a warning. the other thing is senz a message about is you can't get these subpoenas and not make an effort to engage at all. we saw other witnesses like dan scavino, mark meadows who had more engagement with the committee behind the scenes and ultimately the justice department decided not to pursue criminal contempt charges against either of those men. i think what they saw with steve bannon is an effort someone who didn't pull documents together or make an effort to negotiate much of a date for his testimony. just decided he was covered by executive privilege and that didn't fly with the committee, it didn't fly with the jury and now he's facing a sentence. so, i do think they want to send a signal you can't sort of ignore this. >> you know, preet, what is the trump attorney's response we just learned accusing the select committee of flouting norms, what does that say about how aggressively trump could actually fight this? >> he fights everything v

the judges that bannon was unlikely to commit a crime again. i don't think that is so, and i think the full fine of two dozen dollars was certainly warranted in this case. >> jessica, on wednesday, a federal judge ordered trump attorney and the architect of the coup, if you will, john eastman to turn over more documents to the committee. the judge said several emails don't qualify for attorney-client privilege because they are evidence of a likely crime. writing the emails shows, quote, president trump knew the specific number of voter fraud were wrong but continued to tout those numbers, both in court and in the public. in a new piece on msnbc.com, you called that decision stunning. tell us why that is, and how this could contribute to the committee's case. >> really good questions. here, again, we have a federal judge, and let's remember that this is judge davis carter, who in march said, it looks like on a similar question of whether or not john eastman, who was a counsel to the president, whether or not he had to turn over certain emails. t

will bannon sea jail time? >> reporter: is quite possible.d by a jury of two counts of contempt of congress. the justice department said it's worth six months in prison . also, a $200,000 fine at the end of all of this. bannon is due to be sentenced on friday and asks for probation and also says that because he is appealing this verdict, it should be delayed, at least until the outcome of this appeal. given the fact that this is a nonviolent offense. >> we will see if he winds up in jail for six months. the select committee is looking for information from the u.s. secret service afternoon documents show the agency knew about the threat to the u.s. capitol that david what's the latest? >> reporter: we heard from zoe lofgren, one of the members of the committee and we heard her say that she wants to hear more from tony ornato, obviously, a senior member of the secret service and was inside the white house. according to his legal team, he already talked to the committee a couple of times but they believe he has more information and they are basi

that really gives bannon an opportunity to try and work the clock out. >> carlos, is this a win for bannonrtment of justice? he blows his nose with 6500 bucks, and now, we are talking about him. >> i think he made pretty well. i mean, he should be paying major consequences for what he did, and i don't know -- >> he's not even being the major fine. carlos, thank you for being here in person. why was carlos so good on the air tonight, because he brought his doctors into this. video charlie savage, melissa murray and carlos curbelo, thank you. coming up, on the verge of a twitter takeover, the big questions that still lead answers, including, is the site going to be safe to use. and later, for the countdown to the midterms, to the concussion controversy in pro football, our friday night panel takes on topics you are talking about. the 11th hour, just getting underway on a friday night. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪♪ whenever heartburn strikes get fast relief with tums. it's time to love food back. ♪ tum tum tum tum tums ♪ we planned well for retirement, but i wish we had more cash. you think those two have any ide

and besides, bannon wasn't at the time an employee. >> both of those aree bannon at the time was not fundamentally wrong. >> if a subsequent p president can waivere wai the privilege of a prior president ve, that renders it meaningless and the privilege does cover people outside the administration. historically, we encouraget ena presidents to consultge with people who are not in their inner circle. telling them what they want to hear, but to seek good advicee r outside that is covered by executive privilege. so in the end, i thinkr circ ths case is going to be tossed and bannon will be exonerated.. >> sea >> i bet a pretty significantgnc amount of moneany, joe concha, that we have outlined here. what greg outlined in terms ofte the law and what we've been polc talking about in terms of the politics and what laura was saying and wha t i was saying. i doubt they're going to putp a the perspective ofi eric holdeh they didn't prosecute him, lois lerner.eyn' they didn't prosecute her or janet reno. reno. th they didn't go after her either. thiss th is the first time since nineteen eighty

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so bannon is now the 1st person to be incarcerated for contempt of congress in more than half a century. and this sense, of course, an important and a very clear message to others involved in the source of the capital and turner 6. and it said a 2 year standard for future cases, referred to the justice department by the committee investigating the capital attack. and for those of us who don't or follow us politics closely, just remind us how bigger fish mr. bowden wash whilst he fan and was the mastermind behind donald trump's presidential campaign. he's 68 years old. he is a, me executive and a right wing political strategies to serve as an advisor in the trump white house. and he remained in contact with trump even after he was pushed out. he's also directly connected to the storm of the capital on january 6th. that is old, so because on january 5th, one day before that he said in one of his shows, tomorrow will be a big day mark this day it will be huge. and a day later, we all knew what he was referring to the attack on the capital. so he is a well known figure and support are a for

. >>> it is sentencing day for steve bannon. the long-time trump ally was convicted of contempt of congress wfor failing to comply with the subpoena from the january 6th committee. tell us, what is doj saying about bannon requesting to delay serving any sense here? >> reporter: well, the justice department essentially saying steve bannon never wanted to comply with any subpoena from the house select committee, never tried to comply, and still is acting in bad faith. the justice department as we head into court today, they are arguing for bannon to get a high level of punishment for failing to turn over documents and sitting for testimony in the house select committee's january 6th investigation. the justice department is asking for six months in jail for him. that's a pretty high level of the range that he could get. they're also asking that he's fined $200,000, the max, basically because bannon said i'll pay whatever, i'll pay the max, i'm not giving the court any of my financial information. so they're asking for a max there.