banyan there. i think he's lost a to the extent that the people who are close to the president who are still in the white house are physically closer to him, the best thing that they can do to fight back against whatever it is that mr. bannon intends to do with breitbart is to just be in the president's ear all the time. >> melanie, another part of that weekly interview, bannon said we still have a huge movement. we'll make something of this trump presidency, but that presidency is over. it will be someone else. there will be all kinds of fights, and there will be good days and bad days, but that presidency is over. what does he mean by that? >> i think what he's tapping into here is that steve bannon was a conduit for this alt-right movement, for these nationalist, populist ideas. he was the one to engage in trade wars with china and these sorts of things are views that trump did not frankly hold when he was a new york real estate developer. so i think there's some real concern with within the ath