baptist standard." and it's during this particular time that he develops a flair for public controversy. he decides to write a series of articles against race track gambling in dallas and in fort worth. and he's credited for leading the way to see gambling banned in most of texas for the next 20-30 years. and he likes that crusading kind of stuff. well, he becomes the pastor of a church that was a celebrated church called the first baptist church in fort worth, texas, in 1909. it's one of the wealthiest congregations in texas. it's known as the church of the cattle kings. there were 12 millionaires that were in the church, and norris was one of the highest paid clergymen in america at the time. one newspaper in the south voted him the best dressed pastor in america. and he began a ministry that was at first pretty sedate, but eventually he decided he would turn into and morph himself into a sort of a composite. and i've done a lot of radio interviews in the last few days, and i've tried to give people a

with you i'm very pro this i think we need actually perversely but bear with me more westboro baptist church i think this is the one thing that all americans can get behind even like the craziest tea party republican acknowledges that the westboro baptist church is crazy this is the show everywhere and then we can all join the foo fighters encountered protesting the westboro baptist church get along happily ever after why haven't we started seeing some other bands or whoever i want to see some words created gimmicks now to counter protest the westboro baptist rather than just like getting frustrated and angry at them and hopefully there will be more coming. let's. move on to this story that it's just. how amusing i find it only because i have a lot of red headed friends now if i have throughout my life but as you know it's a recess of g. a lot of people say that it's a dying breed and i think that there is the largest sperm bank in the world which is located in denmark they're actually going to make sure of that. ahead that they're going to stop accepting red headed sperm it because t

so obviously this book a lot about the westboro baptist on the show we interviewed earlier in fact and so they were out in kansas missouri and they were protesting a full fighters concert because they accused the band of promoting fornicator fornication adultery idolatry and fags in their music and made use that word sorry repeating their words. and so the biters decided to play a little song for them in costume take a look. all right so they performed their song called hot buns and the lyrics include driving on the i got a hankering for something think i'm in the mood for some hot man muffins. that's obvious and they sing it but that was my rendition anyway i like this approach you know you can't beat the westboro baptist unfortunately the supreme court already ruled that they do get to practice freedom of speech like the rest of us the beautiful thing about this country and sometimes really frustrating thing about this country but. i don't if there is then why not just laugh at it play a song dress up in costume have at it i'd like to say first that i really excited going to karaoke

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he declined so did the fairhaven baptist church. our invitation is still open >>> next, what's really going on inside this fundamentalist baptist home for so-called troubled teens. disturbing allegations former residents are making and the special protection the law gives religious group homes. gary tuchman investigates. >> we've had a lot of people complain they were physically, emotionally, mentally abused at your house. could you give as you comment on that? >> well, i would rather not. [ male announcer ] they'll see you...before you see them. cops are cracking down on drinking and riding. drive sober, or get pulled over. riding the dog like it's a small horse is frowned upon in this establishment! luckily though, ya know, i conceal this bad boy underneath my blanket just so i can get on e-trade and check my investment portfolio, research stocks, and set conditional orders. wait, why are you taking... oh, i see. hey max, would it kill you to throw a guy a warning bark? [ dog barks ] you know i wanted a bird. [ male announcer ] e-

what's really going on inside this fundamentalist baptist home for so-called troubled teens? allegations from former residents and the special protection the law gives religious group homes. gary tuchman investigates. >> we have had a lot of people complain they've been abused at your house. can you give us a comment about that? >> well, i would rather not. this is unbelievable. it's a lifetime. gone. we'll make it right, john. when the unthinkable happens, we're right there with you to help you get your life back on track. nationwide is on your side. the tragedy of september 11 united our country. this year, as we open the 9/11 memorial in new york city, we ask that you join us to honor, remember, and reunite. you can help right now by texting the word "hope" to 80088 to give $10. >>> well, there's a network of religious affiliated reform schools that cater to fundamentalist baptist churches. these group homes can be traced back to lester row love who founded the rebecca home for girls in 1967. he used a honeybee quartet to promote the home. ♪ the lord wrote us everything ♪

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that is still publishing today called the baptist standard. and it's during this particular time he develops a flyer for a public controversy and he decides to write a series of articles against racetrack gambling in dallas and fort worth and is credited for leading the way to see gambling banned in most of texas for the next 20 to 30 years. and he likes that crusading kind of stuff. he becomes a pastor of a church that was a celebrated church called the first baptist church in fort worth texas in 1909, one of the wealthiest congregations in texas woman known as the turk of the church of the cattle kings and there were 12 millionaires in the church. and norris was one of the highest-paid clergymen and america at the time. when newspapers without voted him the best dressed pastor in america. and he began a ministry that was the first pretty sedate, but eventually he decided he would turn into and more for themselves and to sort a composite. as an a lot of radio interviews here the last few days trying to give people a feel for what this person

on the well manicured grounds there is also the fair haven baptist academy for children and fair haven has led thousands of children and their families for four decades. >> you said children are born depraved, born liar, they have to be trained to be good. do you still believe that? >> yes. the bible says all have sinned and come short of the glory of god. >> reporter: the bible also says he who spareette the rod hateette his son. >> my philosophy is three swats. it should sting but not hurt. >> reporter: it's not considered unusual in some in the baptist community and corporal punishment is legal in some schools. these students are now speaking out saying what they endured was way beyond anything taught in the bible. >> how many of you have had suicidal thoughts. every one of you. >> we constantly lived in fear of looking the wrong way and doing the wrong way. >> we were brainwashed, our parents were brainwashed and you followed what roger said. >> reporter: these former students said the pastor did some of the hitting but most by its staff. alison was in grade school when she says th

on the well manicured grounds there is also the fair haven baptist academy for children and fair havenilies for four decades. >> you said children are born depraved, born liar, they have to be trained to be good. do you still believe that? >> yes. the bible says all have sinned and come short of the glory of god. >> reporter: the bible also says he who spareette the rod hateette his son. >> my philosophy is three swats. it should sting but not hurt. >> reporter: it's not considered unusual in some in the baptist community and corporal punishment is legal in some schools. these students are now speaking out saying what they endured was way beyond anything taught in the bible. >> how many of you have had suicidal thoughts. every one of you. >> we constantly lived in fear of looking the wrong way and doing the wrong way. >> we were brainwashed, our parents were brainwashed and you followed what roger said. >> reporter: these former students said the pastor did some of the hitting but most by its staff. alison was in grade school when she says the principal came to the class to paddle you.

. >> jenny shed and will bloom met 60 years ago at the northern baptist, now american baptist conference center in green lake, wisconsin. we met them at the retirement center in peabody, massachusetts north of boston. each had been married and had children and grandchildren and each had lost his or her spouse. they rediscovered each other, fell in love, and wanted to be married. but they found that for themselves and their families, marriage could bring substantial financial problems. issues of pensions and insurance and taxes and bequests. >> the legal problems and inheritance problems with people our age with different families already in existence get very complicated. >> the legal entanglements that could come up later on, it could happen to be quite fierce. if one of her kids says that's ours, not yours. that happens. >> although will and jenny concluded it could be too costly to get married,as lifelong baptists, they at least wanted their has been to be blessed by the church and respected by their families and friends. >> we definitely wanted to be together. we wanted to do it the

the house is a self-described fundamentalist baptist boarding school and church for girls. a face-to-face meeting with the father and the son in charge. we found the son in a parking lot. we've had a lot of people complain that they have been physically, emotionally abused at your house. can you give awes comment about that? >> well, i would rather not. >> reporter: our conversation did not end there. but first, let us introduce you to susan gratti, who is now 45, but spent two and a half years there starting when she was 15. >> it was going to be gardening and crafts and singing and just a chance to heal. >> so that's what your parents thought the school was going to be. >> that's right. >> was it in any way correct? >> no, no. and i knew that the minute the door shut behind me. >> reporter: on her first day in this house, which was the facility used back then, susan says she was accused of having a bad attitude while cleaning the ceiling. so two staff women grabbed her and don williams' father administered what he called godly discipline. >> bodily manhandled me to the fl

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the house is a self-described fundamentalist baptist boarding school and church for girls.ng, we felt we needed a face-to-face meeting with the father and the son in charge. we found the son in a parking lot. we've had a lot of people complain that they have been physically, emotionally abused at your house. can you give awes comment about that? >> well, i would rather not. >> reporter: our conversation did not end there. but first, let us introduce you to susan gratti, who is now 45, but spent two and a half years there starting when she was 15. >> it was going to be gardening and crafts and singing and just a chance to heal. >> so that's what your parents thought the school was going to be. >> that's right. >> was it in any way correct? >> no, no. and i knew that the minute the door shut behind me. >> reporter: on her first day in this house, which was the facility used back then, susan says she was accused of having a bad attitude while cleaning the ceiling. so two staff women grabbed her and don williams' father administered what he called godly discipline. >> bodily ma

texas baptist millionaire. [laughter] he doesn't want his preacher to talk about allowances and is so on. and the other -- but that led him to that whole new mark, if you will. he wasn't looking for a market, he was ready to die. but then he talked about religionless christianity, and that's what confused people. he used the word to show how you develop a piety so god can't get at you, and he wanted you to get rid of all those things. he didn't stop worshiping, he led worship for the fellow prisoners, but he did believe that the show we put on very often stands in the way of it. and then the question is, what should he say about jesus christ in the whose divinity he believed? but he said the church should always argue about what all this means, and if all the things in the new testament and the church that would fit in religion christianity is jesus christ as the man for others. his whole life is that, and we're supposed to model it that. so you can carry these to go deeper in your faith, or you can carry it an

baptist and a pentecostal and religious fundamentalists believed this was the end of the world.nt being visited on a wicked people. as woody recalled we thought we were done for. thousands of us packed up and lit out. that year, he wrote the first of many songs about the death of his community and hundreds of others across the southern plains. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ o cf1 o ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [applause] >> thank you. woody left his wife and children either for the first nor the last time and hit the road early in the summer of 1937. it was 24 years old. somewhere out there on those choked highways leading westward along jalopies and wagons piled high there was another native named agnes cunningham. years later she would sing a radical folk group with woody and guthrie. like woody and countless other children in the dust bowl she would become radically politicized by her migratory experience. as she recalled it, along with hundreds of thousands of performers we fought to survive, we battled crop failures, undero illness without doctors, gully watches and hailstorms and the death of livestock, fire

all right thank you very much for your perspective dr benson wong from hong kong baptist university and. turning now to some other stories making headlines across the globe the first funerals have been held in new delhi two days after a massive briefcase bomb exploded outside the city's high court twelve people were killed in the blast dozens more wounded indian authorities detained three men for questioning in the continuing investigation into the blast the court bombing was the first major attack in india since twenty six people were killed by serial blasts in mumbai in two thousand and eight. a senior british judge has revealed the findings of his inquiry into the death of an iraqi man eight years ago muso was working at a hotel when it was raided by u.k. troops who took the man to a british base where he sustained at ninety three injuries and died six soldiers were cleared of wrongdoing at a court martial in two thousand and seven seven served a year in jail becoming the first convicted british war criminal in the military operation in iraq. the deadly legacy of war and its appallin

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so the southern baptists are saying, why are we not included?> gretchen: does this talk a little bit too much about political correctness in our society? sorry. i'm just going to say it. if you're going to include all these really sort of fringe groups, i don't know how many buddhist nuns are in the united states, but i know one thing, there are more baptists than buddhist nuns. so if you're really going to try and be inclusive for everyone and abide by this whole pc culture that we live in now, you would think that you would include a big population of our country. >> brian: right. i think you could fit all the buddhist nuns in our country in our phone booth. should we have them? >> steve: right. e-mail us, what do you think about this. meanwhile, he was the only cantor fitzgerald to make it out on september 11 without a scratch. wait until you hear the erie coincidences that saved his life. he thinks they should change your life as well. >> gretchen: and the race for president all coming down to just seven states? the man with the best record

chomping down on the snail like the red sea was closing in on the israel children he said and the baptiste world, this was god's judgment being visited upon the wicked people and as he recalled, we thought we was done for, thousands of bus packed up and led out and in that year he rode the first of many songs about the death of his community and hundreds of others like it across the southern plains. ♪ i've sung this song and i will sing it again about place that i lived on the west texas place in the city of tampa the county peers what all of the people have to say. they say so long, been good to know your ♪ ♪ so long it's been good to know you ♪ ♪ salonga, been good to know you ♪ this dusty dust storm is getting my home, and i've got to be drifting along. that dust storm hit them like thunder and trusted us over and thus the thus under ♪ ♪ blocked out the traffic, blocked out the sun ♪ ♪ street home the people did run saying so long, been good to know you ♪ ♪ so long good to know you ♪ so long been good to know you ♪ this dusty old dust storm is getting my hold and i've got to be driftin

real christians like president of southern baptist theological seminary albert mohler, know what's at >> when adam sinned, he sinned for us and it's that very sinfulness that sets up our understanding of our need for a savior. without adam, the work of christ makes no sense whatsoever. >> stephen: exactly. without one, the other can't exist. it's like how without "happy days," "joanie loves chachi" makes no sense. [laughter] why would any woman love a man named chachi?! [laughter] if there's no garden of eden, that means jesus' sacrifice doesn't fix adam's original sin, and all of his teachings make no sense whatsoever. that means i've been helping people and forgiving them for nothing! [laughter] this whole time i could have been bangin' my neighbor's wife and punching lepers. [laughter] that means all the rules are cancelled. i could have put other gods before him. you don't think i've wanted to experiment with the shinto sun goddess amaterasu, or the hindu goddess of prosperity lakshmi? you know what they say--once you go lakshmi, you never go back-shmi! [laughter] next, i'm beginn

church, he he kneeser baptist, here in atlanta. he is one of the people called to testify before the parole board on monday on behalf of troy davis. i'll ask him what he plans to say to try to save troy davis' life, but also will be speaking with the mother of that savannah police officer troy davis is convicted of killing. she'll join me live with her side, this morning. >>> six minutes past the hour. police in new york state looking for this man, this u.s. soldier, after he he disappeared in the woods near ft. drum. this is private first class russell marcum. he was in unit custody and he took off with his parents' car, after he crashed the car, he took off into the woods. police lost him there. he is considered armed and dangerous. marcum served three months in afghanistan earlier this year. >>> an arizona air force base locked down this morning, but reports of a lone gunman roaming the base turned up nothing. a suspected gunman had supposedly entered an office building at davis-monthan air force base. they locked it down, ended

. >> this is a baptist church in cuba. >> icm has started nearly 4,000 churches in 58 nations. this originated from a staff of 25 people at their icm headquarters in hampton, virginia. [singing] >> they have taken the gospel into places like china, india, cam bode ya, peru and tanzania. >> they are so much thankful for the icm and all the donors. >> one of icm's current initiatives is to see 100 more churches built or under construction in vietnam by the end of 2011. that marks the 100th anniversary of evangelical in the country. icm is in their 25th year. rosser is in his 90s and still going strong. >> as long as i can make a contribution, i want to be here. it is exciting. i think really prolongs your life. i get up wondering, god what are you going to do today that i hadn't thought about. >> rosser says it is never too late to follow god's dreams and living proof you are never too old to make a difference in the kingdom of heaven, charlene israel, cbn news. >> i call my gray-head friends who should be retiring after all these years of work. then they are doing these amazing

friends and family attended a wake last night at mount calvary baptist church in rockville.he officer was off two when his car crashed into the back of a tanker truck on the shoulder of on-to 70. he was a 10-year veteran of the metropolitan police department. >>> jury selection is scheduled to begin today in the trial of a maryland lawmaker. prince george's state senator ulysses currie is accused of using his influence to benefit a grocery store chain where he worked as a consultant. his trial is being held in federal court in baltimore. attorneys for him last week said he was being treated for cancer and given medication that made him fuzzy. >>> investigators are saying a scam artist cashed in on his looks and took advantage of unsuspecting residents. police say the man pictured here posed as nfl quarterback vince young and swindled thousands of dollars from his victims. we have details from prince george's county police headquarters. >>> police say the 33-year old stands almost the exact height and weight of quarterback vince young. they say the fort washington resident ha

. >>> a baptist church is on alert after two thefts in three weeks, the last on saturday. two security cameras were taken. on august 27th, someone took two other cameras. they are concerned that the thieves are planning to return. a catholic church is in the dark after the copper wiring that wept to the front offices, the third theft this summer. the timing could not be worse. they are having a special mass in the morning to honor police and firefighters. >> it is a big deal. it will happen. they will not stop us! >> the church called for a meeting on monday night and they will ask for people that attend the church to volunteer to patrol the church until the cameras is replaced. >>> >>> thieves have ridden up on people and pulled a knife or a handgun or a handgun and robbing people of cell phones and money. >> police said that the added patrols are paying off. they have added patrols and there is a 20% drop in the crime. >>> a proposal for increasing fees up to 16% to make up for a budget short fall, but in a meeting yesterday, that plan was put on hold as the regents wait

in the last hour, i spoke to the senior pastor at ebenezer baptist.n monday, he will go before that parole board and ask them to spare davis' life. >> i'm saying there's entirely too much doubt for an execution. the parole board will decide what it wants to do. but i will tell you this much. at each turn of this case, some sector of the justice department has pressed pause. this very board of pardons and paroles stayed the execution a few years ago. i believe it was 2007. on another occasion, it was the supreme court who said, too much doubt, let's pause. then it was the 11th circuit said, too much doubt, let's pause. in a meeting not long ago, i met with the district attorney down in va vana, georgia. >> the current one? >> that's right. he didn't try the case and even he conceded that were he trying the case today, since it's based in circumstantial evidence, that this would not be a death kate case for him and it should not be a death case. here you have a case based completely in circumstantial evidence, eyewitness testimony, and not one witness,

following the wednesday meeting where people went crazy, the san francisco organizing project primarily baptist church, true hope, and kept school had a meeting with 160 people that were there because they wanted more police in the neighborhood, they wanted to continue the relationship they have had under captain sir. they wanted to address the root causes of crime, but they wanted to see violent people taken off the street and guns taken off the street. 98 percent of the crowd was african american. there will continue to work with capt. chanel. right off the top there are three examples of community policing better hope are replicated in other neighborhoods. >[applause] >> my name is karen huggins, president of the holly courts resident council. i have three of my board members here with me. will you please stand? thank you. thii just want to say we totally except and would request that this general order be accepted tonight, 1.08. we would like to think captain sir -- you have been doing community policing ever since he became captain for us. this is just secondary. i would like to also thank

i'm a baptist. i hope was that the people would hear about the injustices. [applause] >> thank you very much for giving us those highlights. we want to move to a different era in this nation's history, when those signs are no longer present, but their presence is felt. with that, i turned t to bryonn bain. >> i am supposed to perform a piece, but i just feel like i want to talk to you. can i bring the format and do that? is that ok? i am honored and humbled to be aired. i want to acknowledge the presence of my elders, ancestors who made it possible for me to be here today. i am away by -- the more i hear, the more i read, the more i research -- i was not doing anything nearly as courageous at 18 years old. looking back, when i was 15, that was the first year, in 1990, when my brothers and i were invited to perform in the presence in upstate new york for the holiday. it was not a big political thing. it was a holiday. we were just going to go and sing sing christmas carols, do some rap songs, whether we could do to cheer up the brothers that were locked up. w

. >> when i say mount calvary baptist church, what comes to mind?> the minister that was there when i was a small child. he could sing, preach, bring the entire congregation to shouting. he had a daughter. her name is out of my mind. she was really something. she was a fabulous costs will singer, but the rev.'s daughter was also a break. she really was. it was a wonderful place to grow up. there were all kinds of activities for children. there was a wonderful person in charge of all of the children. elizabeth sought to is that we sat correctly and we understood about ourselves. and we had negro history week, that we knew their names and what they did. those were the kind of nurturing things missing from a lot of places these days. tavis: we have to talk about marion anderson. there is something i want to come back to and have you unpack for me. i recall reading a critic that was critical of you and reviewing the liner notes, he thought the you should have been given more credit. it appeared to me that he was complaining about the fact that he gave s

and the times when i did teach sunday school in a local baptist church, it was a completely secret thing in advance. nobody knew it in advance. so i separated my religious beliefs totally from any aspects of statehood or governance. >> do you think that -- do you think it is troubling now to see people running for president doing so by essentially preaching sermons, by talking about their faith as if that is a qualification for office? >> i do. i think in a slight way it's even unconstitutional for an incumbent president to claim that his own faith should prevail and that other faiths are not warranting equal treatment under the laws or under the president's policies. i think that's -- you know, it may not be a legal violation of the constitution but i think it violates the first amendment, separation. and the other thing is that we have seen what i consider to be an unwarranted intrusion of the religious community into the political campaigns. so i think both the president's using his power to promote christianity and christians to use their power to try to get their particular chosen p

. >> reporter: yet he takes on roberts recent ruling that annoyed the westboro baptist church to continueitary funerals. you write that you would not given him a passing grade in the first amendment. >> i thought the case involving the intentional inflection of emotional harm on a veteran at a funeral service, i thought the court got it wrong on that. >> reporter: there was also the citizens united case which paved the way to unlimited campaign donations. >> danger that will distort the process. making the outcome of an election appear to depend on who can raise the most money, just doesn't seem to me the right way to be debating about who can best lead the country. >> reporter: you said that service on the court, paraphrasing here, but service on the court can have a civilizing effect on a justice. >> you have to learn to get along with and to discuss in a friendly way, very serious issues. >> reporter: force the civility? >> yes, yeah. >> reporter: and while stevens is too modest to say so, that's probably something congress can learn from the court. >> justice stevens' book is on sale

consersation with attorney doug jones, the man who prosecuted the klan bombing of the 16th street baptistrch in birmingham. that is next time. we will see you then. >> every community has a martin luther king boulevard. it's the cornerstone we all know. it's not just a street or boulevard, but a place where wal-mart sta day better. >> nationwide insurance supports tavis smiley. with every question and answer, help tavis improve financial literacy and remove obstacles to economic empowerment one conversation at a time. nationwide is on your side. >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. [captioning made possible by kcet public television]

as it siccative director, the baptist -- the ambassador advances apec's agenda by executing the workams as mandated by leaders and ministers. he has had a distinguished career for the government in malaysia, dedicating his life's work to the advancement and prosperity of the malaysian people. let as all welcome ambassador noore. thank you. [applause] >> thank you. san francisco mayor, secretary lahood, leaders, ladies and gentlemen. on behalf of the apec secretariat, i would like to thank apec, the economy, and the city of san francisco for hosting this meeting, and for the hospitality extended to us. today, i would like to take this time to congratulate the working group from aipac on its 20th anniversary and to recognize the work of the group's. it has been instrumental to implementations and directions. the transportation sector is critical to our economic prosperity. just last week, in his address to a joint session of congress, u.s. president obama said that building a world-class transportation system is part of what made america an economic superpower. the transportation meeti

incite all of you to participate at our upcoming candidates forum on october 13, 2011 at paradise baptist church from 6:30 to 9:00. thank you. president chiu: thank you. next speaker. >> mr. president, what they were standing for to see if they could give me their time because i have some things in two minutes that is really short and rather than have all them speak, they came today and wanted to know if they could give me their time. president chiu: unfortunately, the way our rules work, each individual is allowed two minutes to speak. if you have a message that you want to deliver, the other folks can use the time within their two minutes, also, thank you. >> what did you say? president chiu: you asked if you can have more than two minutes. we have a board rule that each member of the public shall have two minutes, but if you don't have enough time to say all that you want to say, other members of the public who have not had a chance to speak, they can also finish delivering your message. >> it's difficult to give them what i'm saying. president chiu: i appreciate that. sir, you have tw