we had a situation with a well-thought-out bar opening up a second bar with an arcade theme that ranp against the wall we provided temporary relieve and moving forward with fix with thatwith that - >> i'm sorry, i do have questions for the entertainment commission. >> my apologies ms. black stone. >> why even have entertainment commission give permits to bars that have 10 or less advises i understand for all other non-bar entities they only have to come from other arcades that are 10 or less they've got issues its important to regulate. but i don't understand i haven't heard of instances where the arcade machines in and of itself yeast a nuisance to a neighborhood when there's a restaurant or bar why do we want to continue to regulate them in bars >> first of all, good afternoon. supervisors. the entertainment commission just give you a background who what we've found the machines themselves don't create a problem for the public, however, whufr the ad alcohol there can be problems. the whole point of the entertainment commission it's our policy our goal to make sure that small busine

i believe 68 of them are actually bars and so i think there were 10 bars that have just one, and the rest of them have between two and 10. >> okay. >> sorry connor. >> commissioner frost. >> so we will have no jurisdiction over a bar if they have one machine and it turns into a gambling thing or a payoff like the old days? >>i am glad you brought up that topic because your colleagues in the department brought that up a few times and we wanted to be very sensitive to the concerns and putting effort to strengthening the provisions around gambling to make it explicitly clear any mechanical amusement device changed is not a device and couldn't get a permit and pattonly illegal and we wanted to express that the police has authority over gambling devices and there is language in the legislation that says that the police has the authority to investigate concerns about gambling and seize any gambling devices so we wanted to draw that distinction clearly that we're talking about strictly games for amusement and that was your former colleague, commander garretty stressed that to me and games f

i'm not sure how many bars know they have to come. to the commission there might be bars out of the compliance and an extremely hard process if you have only a few because it goes to the regular process and can get appealed that seems like a lot so i'll propose to amend this alleviation >> supervisor kim i appreciate the concerns for the small businesses and the layers they've got to deal with you currently there are 82 locations in the city and i just don't building that a pinball machine is going to the barrier i don't think i don't think that's the protective 6 they're looking for . >> how much is the permit. >> $740 a one-time application fee and annually to continue to operate 3 hundred and 16 no matter florida i have one or 60. >> that's a significant cost. for two pinball machines or a donkey arcade machine foreperson that they have to come before the commission and if it gets appealed they have to go the board of appeals. i hear you this may not be the task certainly no bar has asked me to take this out of the planning code bu

entertainment commission i can go into detail but we pa made a distinction between bars and non-bars the idea that the entertainment commission times to be engaged with bars and work with them on a good neighbor policy and it's different than some businesses so we want to make the distinction so that the entertainment commission can maintain it's off-site with bars that's what happened that determines the minimum number of games before a bar needs a permit from the san francisco entertainment commission i can go into that but that essentially is the high-level overview and by way of context the entertainment commission was kind enough to put together a list of the or david's cascades it's a relatively small amount 11 locations that have a one devices and it's a popular universe and i want to finish by showing the stack of letters in the upper hate. the entertainment commission staff said it was one of the most positive responses from a business and those are just some of the e-mails and letters we've received in support of free gill watch and this is demonstrate to the community they

because, and also because also it has a second bar. and i think that he kind of then also understands the purpose of the neighborhood out reach so thank you. and we are in support by the way. for the 60 6. >> thank you. >> and if we could hear from jeffrey clay barcos? >> good morning, supervisors, and i just like to more or less, echo what michael said and i commend him on his out reach and i think that he has been a model that if others will use that same model to the community that it will aleave a lot of concerns. and as you know i feel that there are too many bars in district six and so i am more or less opposed but when we have people such as vladamir and the young lady that will be coming up here they have alleviated a lot of our concerns and it is nice to see that rather than having a bar come in and muscle into the neighborhood and take it whether you like it or not. i have learned a lot in this process, that i really see that really the board of supervisors has little control of this. and has little control over this, and the

i hear you this may not be the task certainly no bar has asked me to take this out of the planning code but that's an unnecessary process because time in and of itself is what it takes to file all the things and to know what all the permits are. so of them are a little bit important ridiculous this seems like like a clear one we can make it easier for the number of businesses you've listed to operate if the arcade machine is in and of itself not the issue there are pieces where the arcade machine people are throwing them out of the bars this was something that was sensitized by the people we should talk about a permit process to make sure those bars will have the process reluctance in place to make sure that didn't happen but if that's not what we're trying to get out of them i can't support this. there's no need for a respond i'll be making a motion to amend >> that's increasing two to size. >> with minimum i'll be okay with the minimum 5 my preference so to take utility anything under 10. >> do you want to respond for supervisor breed. >> when we were first distrusting this legislatio

i'm not sure how many bars know

as far as the bar, it is a small bar, it is a small space, it is a 42 liquor license and it is not a 48, and i think that it is disengenius when we hear the reports on someplace that is vacant for four decades when you look at a situation of a police thing, take a look at the block, how many calls were made in that block of bars, how many police calls were made in that block, that is a much more better reading on what you have got in that corridor, rather than taking nothing, sure there is zero calls because there is no one at that address. so you are really not taking, it is kind of disengenius to say that. ask how many calls were made to whisy thieves, and to one of the other nine or ten bars there. or liquor establishments. so that is the issue that i will raise when you start looking at police calls at a specific address, but other than that i am not opposed to her having the bar and i hope and i wish her luck and i hope that she is very successful with it. >> thank you very much. >> and salt lake any other member of the public that would like to speak in please come forward. >>