. > the ne few hours but crucial for bara obama and the serious debate in t u.s. ove health care reform. it is a measu ofow high the stakes are a rare event for amican presiden he nts to tend health insurae to 46 million who do not have it. their opnents have a bill to a campgn on ease oer by government-run health care. this is crunch time. his big y opened with th heroes of 9/1in new yo, t last time the psident called congrs together for a special adess was in the wake of the attack. is in washington putting th final touches on thepeech to sell th contversial idea that all americans should hve helped iurance. -- health iurance. >> i want to ge congre the ability to do the thing and not step on their toes, probably left too much ambigui out there which allow the opponents of reform come out there a fill up the airwavesith a lot of nonsense. >> the publi meetings over the opponents of health re reform de it clear that they we incandesce. >> do not nt this untry turning into russia, turning to a socialt country. >> some compared to counism, other said it was nazi. a

i want to owhow much yo paid bara obama to go to two parks this summer with his kids >> you know, i bumpedhim and said, we e going tohe national park --nd he said, we're gog to the national rks. i said, i heard and we are so pleased. he had his daughters look at the films and now they have become junior rangers. we ae at an existential ment ithe united states, myriend. and existentialism as a brie conversation as the tension between being an doing the world our children live in is neater. we know about nure defit disorder. i've lived in a suburb of duch -- growing up and i would pe out of the hou at 8:00 a.m. and come back when theinner call cam noeveryone sits in tir room al day and a text and cannot stay off of their faceok accots, whatever. we are starved for at lationship of sething bigger. i hopehat e president goi as he did,y those girls getting involved as they did, thathe rest of us can b reminded that all those toys ll be there when we get back, but will make lasting memories. my grandmother tk my daddy, my day took me, and i have taken my three gis to the national rks. that is at

we hav gotten downright nty, and i thk now you have a number of peopleeflecting on this bara obama is indeed the prident. a lot of people are quite unppy about , and i think thathese expressions of outrage -- unfortunatel we are ing to see re of this. >> tell me abo the role of the ack caucus. it has influence with the left wing of the party, largely, doesn't it? can a twist the arms of the peopleho are holng out for a public aucti? , -- for a public auction -for a publicoption? >> think they wi be somewt isolated they will become obstructionist if they do not go alg with the steamroller that is comin through right no it is aery dangerous position. some that i he spoken to really fear being marginalized as a result of this. it will be interesting to watch. you would thinkhat t congressiol black caucus does have iluence, but they submitted over 62 names with the president of people th thoug could get jobs inhe administration, and ne of these wereonsidered. >> there we notonsidered,r they we not given jobs? >> most of th did notven get interviewed. >> i wonder what the white house is sa

bara obama is and that is why i wrote the book. >> host: let me ask you specifically about a couple of the photographs inside the book. the former governor of illinois, the mayor of chicago and president obama. >> guest: i thought it was very important to set the stage for the atmosphere, the culture, the political mhine that barack obama crew out of and there is a section in the book specifically on the episode invoing barack obama, valerie jarek and thesenior white house adviser and the consigliere from chicago and the conneions to e rod blagojevich scandal, and i go into great detail also about the service employees international union which was involved somehow, was roped into blagojevich's play to try and trade favors for that senate seat. >> host: you also write about michelle obama, beneath the cultured pearls, sleeveless designer dresses, of false eyelashes applied bher full time make a artt michelle robinson obama ia hardall chago politico. the first lady long ago showed a willingness to employ acsations of racial oppression as the defense against criticism. >> guest: apparent

then baby bara obama's own promise he's g to not si the bill. he's actually t to substantively bend the cost cue. >> he did a little biof that, i think, wh a proposal endorsing the insurance tax which someepublicans have embraced before. charlie,s ing to be a very messy procs for thenext seven weeks. joe califo can talk out what the legislave process is like. it is an absute can national guard that ts thing is a slam dunk in the house. between some liberals who tnk it doesn't go far enoug and some conservative, some blu do who say i w't vote for a public option. ey have delicate maneuvering to do in the house. that's the balancing a. that's why heon't throw in the tol yet on the pubc option. but what he will do a some point, he has t say what h ll accept, whether it's a trigger, a co-, whateve emerges. >> ros when does he he to do at. >> what emerges from the senate finance committee ll be portant and then they'll start putting deals togethe so certainly by early october. >> i think, charlie ere's another factor here,t's not just democts and rep

but it just seems toe that it used to be we we talking about how e racism out there might keep bara obamarom the white house. i und that to be a very urge issue. this time, we're saying at the racismell, what? we're real just describing mething that's not going to away any te soon, and i don't think reallyas that much effect upothe way our lives and the way the governmenof our liv is going to be going. >> ifill: so you' saying-- >> i just think that rely it's like saying ey're mosquitoes. yeah, there alwa will be. but we havether thing to think abut than the fact that there are mosquitoes. >> ill: whether it's jeremiah wrighor henry louis gates jr. or what jimmy carr said about this, the tea baggers, 's always going to with us? >> in some rm it is, and in some cases we needo sound the alarm. in other cases i st think there are bigger fish to fry >> ifill: bigger fisho fry matt welch? >> at i would encourage peoe to do while continuing to lk for legitimatexpresses or ilgitimate expressions of racism in a untry torn by the issue and by the existce of it in times pas also keep an open mindbo

it puts bara obama in a terrible position because essentially he said eith you go in or u might as welletout because there is no mdle way. andpoliticians don't like that. but think intellectuall he's absolutely corre. >> do youagreehat president obama is now in a difficult position. >> he is present obama's choice. >> mcchryal. >> sure. >> lehrer: a mcchrystal was petras's choi. ey are all in it together. >> he i in fact, the president's -- what suck me and aga in stark ctrast i think to the prious administration which did gorequently shoppingor friendly advice or advice that itgreed with military advice was it candor. i me had was not aeport that was intended to win favort the white house or makthe white house more uncomfortale. the request for 30,000 troops, said without the 30,000 troops will be failure. that it was to guarane with the 30,000 troops there will be success. or any te certain. so i tnk in that case, the mission estion still remai. what is the mission. when will we know we have won. an when will we be out. >> lehrer: do y agree with david thatt's less about troops tn it is

then baby bara obama's own promise he's g to not si the bill. he's actually t to substantively bend the cost cue. >> he did a little biof that, i think, wh a proposal endorsing the insurance tax which someepublicans have embraced before. charlie,s ing to be a very messy procs for thenext seven weeks. joe califo can talk out what the legislave process is like. it is an absute can national guard that ts thing is a slam dunk in the house. between some liberals who tnk it doesn't go far enoug and some conservative, some blu do who say i w't vote for a public option. ey have delicate maneuvering to do in the house. that's the balancing a. that's why heon't throw in the tol yet on the pubc option. but what he will do a some point, he has t say what h ll accept, whether it's a trigger, a co-, whateve emerges. >> ros when does he he to do at. >> what emerges from the senate finance committee ll be portant and then they'll start putting deals togethe so certainly by early october. >> i think, charlie ere's another factor here,t's not just democts and rep

they were enflathralled by bara obama's promise of near biblical transformation.ed by greek columns. well, he can spin a speech. but he can't spin his record. and i'll bet you never dreamed that you'd look back at jimmy carter as the gold ole days. >> romney may have warmed the crowd. but his former conservative rival mike huckabee has their vote. a strong poll shows he's the favorite among religious conservatives to be president in 2012. four people tied for second with 12%, including romney and former alaska governor sarah palin. >>> everybody wants to save manufacture and spend less. join hln money expert clark howard at 4:00 p.m. eastern. he will show you ways to do that. save more and spend less and avoid getting ripped off. the clark howard show, 4:00 p.m. eastern on hln. >>> tonight is television's big night. actor neil patrick harris is hosting the 61st annual prime time emmy awards from hollywood. it could turn out to be a huge night for the amc drama "mad men." that show won the best drama emmy last year and captured 16 mom nation this is year. "family g