[laughter] and barack obama was not. that tells you about who barack obama was which is that we wanted to see in him many different things. he came on stage in the national sense as a bit of a cipher. we didn't know him the way you knew him here in illinois and people in illinois might not of known them as well as we do. he was a fresh based on the national stage and we could remember him winning the presidency in our lifetime. no other president has spent in a national office with positional power than barack obama had and this is two years in the senate in washington before he started running. i think that stems from the fact that he wasn't like any of the presence where we had the looks for analogies and comparisons because he wanted to be able to define him. he himself said during the 2008 campaign that he didn't look like all the presidents on the dollar bill which is true. of course that meant in some way the reference to his role in the breaking barriers. he was the first african-american president which that woul

barack obama was not. would tell you is a little bit about who barack obama was, which is what we wanted to see in him, many different things. he came on stage in the national sense as a bit of a cipher. we did not know him the way you knew him in illinois. may be some people in illinois didn't know them as well as you do. he was a fresh face on the national stage. almost any other president had to spend more time in a statewide or national office position the power than barack obama had. really, just two years in the senate in washington before he started running. i think that sounds from the fact he wasn't like any other president before. we looking for comparisons because we wanted to find them. he himself said during the 2008 campaign that he did it look like all the presidents on the dollar bill, which is true and that meant in some way the reference to his role in breaking barriers. he was the first african-american president, and that would always be the first line in his obituary, but he didn't wan

now, i have to say they were pretty bad under barack obama. tell you. >> well, some european officials who have dealt with president trump in the past believe his foreign policy is driven by unraveling obama legacies. they say he is obsessed with obama. given the recent events in charlottesville, some are calling for barack obama to speak up. today, carol i'm not randall williams writes, we are a country troubled by the looming possibility of a constitutional crisis and hate groups are claiming the president as theirs. we need your voice. i'll going to let you two go at it. should barack obama come out into the republican square, he hasn't been there in months, not since the inauguration of trump, and join trump in this argument over legacy? your thoughts. >> i mean, obviously, i've written this article. i feel like he's got to. he's always been such a poised, measured and careful speaker and i think a lot of us are accustomed in a national crisis to hearing from him. and i think it feels like a crisis to a lot of us. so i'm really longing to

and barack obama never served.er, barack obama made sure that he read every single letter from every single serviceman, every single family member. he greeted every single body that came off that plane because he wanted to fundamentally understand, my actions have real-world consequences for families across this nation. men and women are losing their sons and their daughters, their fathers and their mothers, their aunts, the whole thing. trump doesn't get it. i mean fundamentally doesn't get it. hillary clinton warned us saying this is a man who wants to just play games. and he's not surrounding himself either with people who understand the gravity of the office as well. he's got two generals and tillerson. they're all a little shaky as far as i'm concerned. but the depth of the bench is actually not there. so barack obama, as young and as inexperienced he may have been as a junior senator when he became president, he made sure he surrounded himself with people who had been public servants, who had served in the mi

i voted for barack obama twice. obama hasat barack done so much damage to this country. he has turned the democratic party into an anti-white people anti-whitecially an christian people party and we are seeing the results, the fruit of his labor to turn this country against white people. host: how do you respond? guest: i understand that sentiment. i have a different perspective. atpent a lot of time looking these issues, karen, and i have heard a lot of people like you, in texas. i am not white myself but many people think i am. they do not see my indian background. the power, control, influence of whites in american society has only grown in the last decade. there is less and less representation of various minority groups, hispanic inns, women stillicans -- do not make nearly as much as white men make. it is hard for me to see how whites have lost pace. i think we are seeing a lot of people who grew up generations ago are having trouble competing today in a more difficult global economy where jobs are going away. where there are not factory jobs. i agree that barack ob

[laughter] and barack obama was not. but that tells you a little about who barack obama was. we wanted to see in him many different things. he came on stage as a bit of a cipher and we didn't know him the way that you all knew him. he was a fresh face in the national stage as we could remember winning the presidency in our lifetime almost no other president spent more time in a statewide or national office in the position of power than barack obama had. there were two years in the senate before he started running and you know, i think that stemmed from the fact he wasn't like the presidents we had before. they kept looking for comparisons because we wanted to be able to define him. he himself said that during the 2008 campaign he didn't look like all the presidents on the dollar bill. this is true. and of course that meant in some ways the reference to his role in breaking barriers. he was the first african-american president, but that of course was always going to be the first line but he didn't want it to be the only line in his obituary he was determined to be more of a co

he was so critical of barack obama, saying we have to get oui’ barack obama, saying we have to get our blood and treasure while they are there. so he has to make sure it is not a continuation of that policy, convincing the american people he is notjust following in barack obama's people he is notjust following in ba rack obama's footsteps. people he is notjust following in barack obama's footsteps. you say a huge amount is riding on this, how much is at stake for the president, given the events of the last few weeks? you have put your finger on it. if you look at the criticism in the wake of president donald trump since his intervention a couple of days ago in charlottesville, he was criticised from all sides and the only support he got was from the far right and everybody said president did not seem presidential on the questions of the big moraljudgments of the day, and he fell short. this is an opportunity for every set for donald trump and in previous foreign policy speeches, he has been warmly applauded across the board. of the things he has said, and i think the white house is des

barack obama gets in office and tries to shut down the. the. many of whom are minorities and try to shut it down and the political need to satisfy some people that helped him get elected to a. on a group that sends the person off to represent them politically so in terms of the criticism, part of it surrounded he thinks the racial debate in the country shifted more to the deindustrialization of the country and how he says the less concerns to his mind are focused on blaming social pathologies on the absence of the factory jumps and that is what led to the current state of affairs and he thought i should have done more to talk about that in the book. and i think that it is a fair point people had been making this point for decades i don't buy into the argument. i didn'i did and they get the se wrong when they say that in other words the social breakdown in the 60s and inner cities preceded the flight. detroit didn't riot after the factory jobs left. the riots came first. so that is my problem in the argument. but that is some of what john was ar

food stamp use, which tripled under barack obama, that's down 4%. we got 4 trillion added to market value. we got reduced regulations which corporate america loves and the veteran affairs department being cleaned up. for the first time, another novel idea, sharing records with the defense department. we pulled out of the trans pacific partnership and the paris climate accord and very esteemed critics of the president said they were the critics of arson. we've negotiated trade agreements with mexico, south korea, canada. we've been looking at the keystone pipeline being reopened with canada and the gulf of mexico being approved. oil from that area is coming in fast and furious. we've increased daily oil production in this country by 500,000 barrels to 1.3 million barrel as day. consumer confidence at a 16-year high. i'm not a publicist for donald trump. we get to the good and the bad. but that's not fair. that's not balanced. the media treatment that dismisses that and makes him look like a buffoon and calls him lazy, is not right. it's not right. if

i voted for barack obama twice. and i think that barack obama has done so much damage to this country.y. he has turned the democratic party into an anti-white people party. especially, anti-white christian people party. i think we're seeing the results, the fruits of his labor to turn this country against white people. >> host: how would you respond to that? >> guest: well i understand that sentiment. but i, i have a differentt perspective. i spent a lot of time looking at these issues, karen, i heard a lot of people like you, i hear a lot of that in texas. i'm not white myself. many people think i'm white. . . and i agree barack obama did not do enough to address thek a issues of inequality, problems of education access, the problems of people getting left out. i don't think that's about being white or black. that's about having presidential leadership that offers opportunity to citizens of all kinds and obama did not do enough but adults as correcting that right now. ics exploiting those divisions. i share your co

are pro donald trump or anti-donald trump, pro-barack obama or anti-barack obama, i don't care. you know why? because i want what is best for our country. it is eager than any one person. if we don't do things to take -- it is a good than any one person. if we don't do things to take care of our country make sure american workers have their opportunities against the global marketplace, for countries who do not want to see us be successful, we will do so at our own demise. i hope the president brings with him the business acumen that he had running the trump organization to the white house. we have seen a few examples of that. we the -- we have the boeing example with air force one and he has been forthright in understanding the price that something costs. let me close with less -- with this less story. i decided to start a small business. as you all know, as business individuals, you have an employment identification number so you can open a bank account. my partner's estimate, corey, can you take care this? an end it says the website is down for maintenance. please call this ph

whether is bernie, john kerry, or barack obama, when i worked for barack obama he had done one good speech at a convention and that was it. i never thought he would be president to run for president. so i think just being well grounded and following your moral compass and networking for people just to get ahead but working for people i believe in. >> during your time in the white house, what was the biggest or most emotionally impactful moments that you saw the president undergo we thought something very serious happened and how he viewed his role as a leader. >> i don't know if you want this answer. i would say was newtown. immaculate it's a super down our way ten this whole thing. it's okay, but i would say that one thing you don't realize in the white house that morning and don't quote me, but we got a report there might be a shooting in a mall in connecticut and then we heard there might be a shooting, nothing totally crazy like in high school, and the third report was horrifying. you have a bunch of people who are trying to do their job. you can't sit down and be sad and say this is t

he doesn't have the majorities that barack obama had. i'm woun of the democrats who thinks the futures of the party does not lie in somehow bringing trump voters around the democrats but in fact re-establishing and expanding on that barack obama majority back to back majority coalition. >> who is going to do that cornell? >> you know that's a really good question, brian. that's -- that's a really good question. but, look, i think there are leaders in the democratic party thinking about running and from congressman ryan to senator booker, et cetera. i think we have sop voices out there who will try to cobble back together the coalition. >> this is why we'll have you back to continue the conversation. our great thanks for joining us late on thursday night late in the summer. thank you both. still to come, as we mentioned, august rolls on. so does the work of special counsel robert mueller. "the 11th hour" rolls on, right after this. how do you become america's #1? start by taking care of families for 70 years. earn the trust of 32 nfl team

but i do think this -- whether you are pro donald trump or anti-donald trump, pro-barack obama or anti-barack obama, i don't care. you know why? because i want what is best for our country. it is bigger than any one person. if we don't do things to take -- of our country -- that is not isolationism, people. if we don't do things to take care of our country and make sure american workers have their opportunities against the global marketplace, for countries who do not want to see us be successful, we will do so at our own demise. i hope the president brings with him the business acumen that he had running the trump organization to the white house. we have seen a few examples of that. as it relatesmple to the purchase of air force one. we have also seen it where he has been forthright in understanding the price that something costs with the federal government. let me close with this story. i decided to start a small business. as you all know, as business individuals, you have an employment identification number that the irs gives you so you can open a bank account. where they can get you from m

folks that have also not spoken out forcefully as president, barack obama and hillary clinton. hey? >> they have their own, i guess things to debate internally. >> you could say the same thing about republicans, congressmen. >> they are in office, right? president obama and secretary clinton aren't in office right now. they are being quiet. >> you are talking a moral compass. >> can you imagine the conversation, president obama had to speak out every ten minutes about this president, it would be exhausting. >> he said, before he left, the tradition of letting the go away and let the president be the new president, he would abide by unless it reached to a new level like the moral compass of the country was in question. this does not raise the level? >> of course it does. i'm sure he's internally quite upset and saving his big comeout, i would say at some point to lay out the issues he has a problem with with with this president. from being in congress four years, our country does face a moral crisis. there are members in congress, on both sides of the aisle, continuing to put the

not donald trump, not barack obama, it has been going on for a long, long time. amy: we will host a roundtable discussion with a protester who survived the car attack. a domestic terrorism attack. when protesting against white nationalists in charlottesville. we will speak with a nurse who treated the wounded, as well as jalane schmidt, an organizer with the local black lives movement and professor it university of virginia dr. cornel west was there and blackmon, ofi united's church of christ. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. thousands of people rallied in cities across the united states on sunday to protest deadly violence by a mob of ku klux klan members and neo-nazis during a rally in charlottesville, virginia, on saturday. a 20-year-old nazi sympathizer killed one anti-racist activist and injured more than a dozen others when he intentionally drove his car through a crowd of people protesting against the kkk and neo-nazis, who were rallying to oppose charlottesville's plan to

opportunity to move us -- >> you literally in the green room you would try to find a way to blame barack obama're about to do it. >> look, we need to move to post racial society. obama had a right to do that. the black-white conflict, white-black conflict, all of that is silly olds, needs to be pushed into the past. >> i'm sorry, i'm sore. >> i we need a leaders to move us -- >> you say that to african-americans every day are affected by disproportion at, tell that to families that are dealing with structural ricinism this country, racism still affecting how black americans -- >> very difficult to argue. >> for you to say on this couch we need to put behind the black and white differ snide. >> we do. >> coming from such an incredible place of privilege, from. >> barack obama ranas unite err not divider, so did george bush, none of them succeed in the uniting the country. >> going back to the words, the words that are used, and i thought about barack obama in president trump's criticism of him, for not using the words radical, islamic terror, and how that was a big part of the rhetoric that we

we can talk about what barack obama did. show me what donald trump is doing to heal the country? >> let's go back and talk about president obama's response just after charleston. not at the funeral which i thought was great. >> i'm not going to allow you to create a equivalency between what president obama did and donald trump did saturday and today. that is what you're saying. how is it different? it is different because donald trump, he literally stood up there in front of the world today and let us know exactly where he stood. he's still the person that started the racist birther movement. he's a white supremacisasacist sympathizer. >> did not the president today basically show that the statement he made yesterday was just a lie, just something written for him? >> no. if you listen and if you read it, he said -- he disavowed them. he said it repeatedly. >> he said neo-nazi, kkk, and white supremacists, but today -- >> isn't that what you wanted him to say? >> today he reversed and went back to -- >> we haven't heard from joseph. >> i think we're going down the wrong path and it

not donald trump, not barack obama. this has been going on a long, long time.t has no place in america. >> one phrase you heard is getting a lot of attention and criticism, i should say. and that is when he said the violence, the hatred and bigotry on many sides on many sides. a lot of folks are saying he is equating the neonazis and white nationalists who are demonstrating with the folks who are counterdemonstrating, protesting the racism and racial epithets they were espousing. i asked a white house officials what was meant by many sides. they said the president was condemning hatred and bigotry and violence from all sides. there was violence between protesters and counterprotesters today. that was the white house doubling down on the idea that both sides are to blame. the country talked about bringing the country together and the need to unite and to figure out what is going wrong in this country that allows this sort of thing to happen. a lot of critics on both sides of the aisle are saying that the president himself needs to call out the organizers of thes

not barack obama. it's been going on for a long, long time. it has no plausz in america. >> one phrase that you heard from the president just now there is getting a lot of attention, a lot of criticism, i should say, and that is what he said the hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides. a lot of people are saying he is equating the white supremacists to the people counter demonstrating, protesting the racism and the racial epiteths they were espousing. i asked what the president meant by many sides. i asked several white house officials. this is what they said. the president was condemning hatred bigotry and violence from all sides. there was violence between protesters and counter protesters today. that was the white house doubling down on this idea that both sides are to blame. another thing that's notable here is that the president talked about bringing the country together. about the need to unite, to straighten out the situation in charlottesville, to study it, to figure out what is going wrong in this country that allows this sort of t

barack obama was 11 years old when alinksky died. they never met. i spoke to and interviewed a friend of mine, arny graph, who took over the industrial foundations and mentored barack obama for about two days or a week at a seminar. barack obama was mostly interested in how arnie was raising a racially mixed family. he turned away definitively from the alinksky message of community organizing to give power to the people against the government and the olgark telling him he wants to become a powerful political figure like a judge or lawyer. hillary clinton met saul alinsky two or three times and wrote her honor thesis about him and turned down an opportunity to work with him because she said i think saul is magnificent but you can't take this to scale. i don't want to put pressure from the community on the government to carry out our will. i want to become a powerful central planner. she explicitly in her thesis, which is brilliant and i recommend you read it, turned away from saul alinsky. neither were saul alinsky's lites. both turned away from alin

needed barack obama. and that's not personal attack on the former president. you could substitute in the name of any black politician. and the statement would still hold true. that's what i'm trying to get at in this book. it started out as a column, that grew into a longer essay and then eventually the short book that was recently published. but my intention was to make a fairly simple point. which is what, political activity is not the most effective way of advancing a group economically. a racial ethnic groups lil success is not automatically lead to economic success. one does not the flow naturally from the other. it is hardly an original observation but an important one that is regularly ignored by civil rights leaders and black political leaders who practice identity licks urnght vote as a block. favoring candidates of their own racial or ethnic background and so forth and i thought the end of the president presidency wase to limit the strategy which has been in place more than 50 years now. since t

barack obama said we could. and john mccain said we could annihilate north korea. the criticism is not born out by historical perspective. howie: does mollie have a point? is the press overreacting? jessica: i do think so. when i first heard it i had a blowback moment and said did he actually say that. then i saw the quotes in context. i think it reason the media undermines him is they don't trust him. when we saw other members of the cabinet clearly did not talk to him about the language he was going to use. mollie: the media can't be undermining him with his own words. we are watching on camera what he is saying. jessica: they can with their commentary. his words are on for 30 seconds and a bunch of pundits are talking about him and his words and if he's worse than kim jong-un. christina: one of the reasons this blew up is he hasn't talked to the press that frequently. he's on vacation in new jersey. anything he says is going to be a major story because we don't hear from him enough. howie: vice president pence ripping the "new york times" for suggesting he has a

in kenya. >> trevor: jordan, barack obama is not running the country anymore. rump is. >> interesting. tell me why there is still obamacare, no wall on the border and all the same obama era economic growth? ha ha! gotcha! >> trevor: this all sounds a little fringe, man. >> it is fringe. reality check, that's where everybody lives now. it's where opinions, policies and realities are born. on my new show, i represent the outsiders, the underdogs, like the billionaire tv star president. the opposition starts monday september 25th at 11:30. trevor, come with me into the light. >> trevor: i'm not going to join you, no. jordan, i have a job. >> so be it, old friend. i guess this is goodbye forever. >> trevor: like forever forever? >> forever -- i mean, i might swing by a few more times to plug the show, you know, for -- ( laughter ) -- corporate synergy is important, but just because i'm a lone wolf doesn't mean i can't be a team player. >> trevor: jordan klepper, everyone. ( cheers and applause ) we'll be right back. ( ♪ ) ( ♪ ) real meal for five bucks. ) real meal

representation in cuban has increased since the opening that barack obama undertook.ere according to amnesty an average of 862 arrests and the detentions every month in cuba. the most repressive regime on the face of the effort and gotten more repressive since barack obama's policies were in place. by the way, we're looking at venezuela right now, what is happening there with castro's ally in venezuela. they have used the money they have gotten from the opening to help the maduro regime help repress the venezuelan people that are trying to rise up in democracy. >> dana: i think we have american citizens, diplomats that didn't deserve what has happened to them. i guess we'll get more information about them. of course, the canadian citizen as well. but there's a lot of innocent people living under these regimes that deserve better as well. i'll give you the last word. >> absolutely. the people that live under the repressive regime and the failed economic policies of the castros in cuba need help. they need the american ideals exported there unlike what president trump s

not barack obama, not barack obama. it's been going on for a long, long time. there's no place in america. what is vital now is a swift restoration of law & order and the protection of innocent lives. no citizen should ever fear for their safety and security in our society, no matter our color, creed, religion or political party we are all americans first. >> but the president is taking some heat for not condemning the white nationalists by name and governor terry mcauliffe a while ago did that. taking on the white supremacist and nazis. >> i have a message for the white supremacist and nazis that came into charlottesville. go home. you are not wanted in this great commonwealth. shame on you. >> so strong words there. we're trying to get new information about the helicopter crash that happened just before 5:00 p.m. when we learned about that happening just southwest of the city of charlottesville. two troopers lost their lives in that. so i want to get you back to the scene. joining me is tom costello. i know you've had ran opportunity to speak with some eyewit

barack obama after the shootings in charleston. moments for a president to speak to the country, and to unite the country and part of that, you know, trump is calling for unity without recognizing there's a segment of the pop tlaulation t believes in him with racist ideology and he's not rejecting that. that's a big deal. and trump during the campaign showed a master at branding people, and sort of diminishing them quickly with that branding. he's not used that skill that he has to direct it at this neo-nazi group that believes in him, and that's telling. that he's not doing that. so i think he has moments today where he can do some of that and speak out in a way that he so far has not. >> the question is telling of what? is it just he doesn't want to criticize people he knows supports him? those saying this proves to them he sympathizes with them, we all pray is not the case. but when you have a lack of clarity, you allow people togro the president hasn't singled us out. that's a good thing, see what the justice does. an investiga

i know republicans were against barack obama and it did seem, they were against barack obama, against pretty good identity. >> we were for something. the galvanizing idea of you taking power away from government. the whole fire pelosi campaign was about. it worked, whether you're running for a local city race or if you're running for governor of your state or the united states senate. the idea was empowering people. when you talk about the he could not is it t not, the constituencies. you have to find a way to create that energy. if the way you're going to do that is a better deal, that's not galvanizing the base. that's not elevating the argument for them to get off their couch is that go out and support a democrat. meanwhile, republicans are looking over their shoulder saying how much do we have to do to hold this house? and throws two tensions that will be very interesting to watch over the next year. >> all right. by any historic al standard, they are very bad numbers for donald trump. so we'll see with north korea, what will happen. michael steele, zerina maxwell. president trump

. >> we can blame barack obama for the fix we are in today. he guided the administration plan for missile defense and we are very much at risk because of obama's policies. i don't think we have the time. we've got much to decide whether we will allow north korea to have the capability to put nuclear warheads essentially anywhere they want inside the united states. cheryl: is he right? >> i think he's spot on. president rabbani had the policy. we can't give it to the most important part of the world when you got the military, you have a

transcripts of barack obama's calls. as a journalist that's not my concern. but the supreme court said you go back to 1971 with the pentagon papers, a leak is not necessarily problematic on the journalist's side. joe: other members of the administration said this is a bad thing to have and the president should have that ability to talk to foreign leaders. are you going after the journalists or the leakers. howie: on this question of journalists challenging actions by the president, there is a statement the president said in various places he got positive calls. >> why did the president say he received a phone call from the leader of the boy scouts and world leaders. >> no i wouldn't say it was a lie. the conversations took place. howie: now was it a phone call or personal conversation. mollie: the problem is trump had a phone call when instead he had an in-person conversation. he said the leader of the boy scouts called him and it was various leaders of the boy scouts. he's imprecise with these things and it can cause pr

president had deported more people than president barack obama.'m not saying that's a good thing or bad thing. that is a fact that a lot of people missed. is a trend that started in the george w. bush administration. .he trendline has gone down why do you think people don't know that? caller: that is a great point. of communication on the part of democrats because it's not in line with what the democratic platform is. that's why i consider myself an independent because i think democrats and republicans trade on brand more than anything else. the dream act fits better with the democratic brand than being strong on illegal immigration. this is myricans -- message to people who blame illegal immigration or immigrants for the source of the problems, i think that is very un-american. america -- i believe we are the greatest country in the world because one thing we have over any other country, we have something called social mobility. you can start out poor and become rich. we have capitalism and a meritocracy in the free market. you are believe if bla

and i was one of those people chose to support barack obama over hillary clinton.[laughter] declared, iore even had hoped that i could make an impact with her campaign, but the truth of the matter is that i was in a really weird space in because ofpolitics choices that i made to go against the clinton camp, support the obamas. the obama's did not want any of so i was like a woman without a country. so i started to vote about my issues, vote independently, trying to see the party rebound still. but i was so happy when donald trump declared that he was going to run. i was so incredibly happy, just knowing what he has accomplished, to know that -- to know what he would be able to bring to the white house. declared, andt he you can probably look at any of these interviews, you saw how very, very passionate i was number that he was the right choice for america. host: so at one point in the general election did you know that he was going to win? -- >> when he was going through a primary, and there were 17 candidate i believe? i knew that he would not each one of them off

barack obama lied. other presidents have lied. politicians lied to us every day. chuck schumer, who used to work for, lied continuously. what are we to take away from this? i want the actions and policy. if we can't focus on that, the problem -- >> chris: was he comprehensive when he was quoting himself? he left off the part where he said "both sides." george stephanopoulos, for the most part, used to be on-call in a weekly basis with the previous administration when rahm emanuel was there. he was doing a news show any had -- other politicians would say going to sit down with george. trump says george, you worked with bill clinton. i know where you stand. marco rubio, your little guy. >> david: he's a blue-collar guy talking to the american people. >> chris: but he's the president now. steve have a criticism i hear all the time is that the media won't let president trump talk about his agenda or his policies. to an extent, and a lot of the media isn't fair. however, how does he help himself when he uses his time to say, you know, he begins a speech with this movem

not barack obama.s has been going on for a long, long time. >> joining me to talk more about the situation we have with us this hour is the ceo for the center of civil and human rights right here in atlanta. it is is good to have you with us for perspective. >> yes. >> given the center there, given the history that i know that you know so very well, i want to talk about the president's words that are getting so much criticism, so much attention right now, many sides. if we could, i would ask the director to play that video of the protesters facing many of the white supremacists at this rally. you get a sense of what was happening on the ground. some will see it one way, others will see it another way. many sides, derrick. would many sides be applicable to the 1960s with the civil rights rallies that happened? many sides. >> many sides. i think this is a chance for the president to go back and look at this stick statement and address the country. if i were him i would sit down and put together a languag

have some sense of what it might mean to quote-unquote talk black, and whatever that sense is, barack obama doesn't manifest that, at least in instances that biden thought relevant to name. so, the point is that talking black is one way of thinking about the acting whitephone but there's the acting white dimension, too. i want to say onemerring to to be clear. nice true way to act black or act white. let's be absolutely clear about that so one does not leave this conversation thinking i'm saying this is the dui act white and the way to act black. that's note claim of the book. the opinion is that people nevertheless have some understanding of what it means to act black and what it means to act white. they're not ex-step chalet -- innings stenchalet given and there's are studies that when you pick up the phone and hear a person speak you make some assumptions about that person's racial identity. not just the look of race that we employ to determine whether you're in and out of a category. it's the talk of race. it's your speech that allows to us map you into categories. >> host: you are you

barack obama said we could. and john mccain said we could annihilate north korea. the criticism is not born out by historical perspective. howie: does mollie have a point? is the press overreacting? jessica: i do think so. when i first heard it i had a blowback moment and said did he actually say that. then i saw the quotes in context. i think it reason the media undermines him is they don't trust him. when we saw other members of the cabinet clearly did not talk to him about the language he was going to use. mollie: the media can't be undermining him with his own words. we are watching on camera what he is saying. jessica: they can with their commentary. his words are on for 30 seconds and a bunch of pundits are talking about him and his words and if he's worse than kim jong-un. christina: one of the reasons this blew up is he hasn't talked to the press that frequently. he's on vacation in new jersey. anything he says is going to be a major story because we don't hear from him enough. howie: vice president pence ripping the "new york times" for suggesting he has a

rob: you'll be celebrating barack obama day next year. barack obama day next year.ey shimkus with the reactio. online hi. hi. you guys going to the company picnic this weekend? picnics are delightful. oh, wish we could. but we're stuck here catching up on claims. but we just compared historical claims to coverages. but we have those new audits. my natural language api can help us score those by noon. great. see you guys there. we would not miss it. watson, you gotta learn how to take a hint. i love to learn. heather: vice president mike pence firing back against "the new york times" report claiming that he's running a shadow campaign to beat president trump in 2020. rob: did you hear about this, carley. carley shimkus siriusxm 115 here with the story. >> interesting one, right? heather: it wouldn't be the first time "the new york times" have gotten it wrong. >> the vice president is taking on "the new york times" after report that he and along with ohio governor john kasich and tom cotton are all starting to campaign for 2020 and they are doing so on the off chance

they try to demonize barack obama. nd i live in san diego, you have a movie about president obama and they on the san diego tribune during that on there is a front-page article about your little tiny movie bashing drive barack obama leading up to the election. that's was see the problem in our country. >> first of all, the movie is the second highest grossing political documentary of all time. behind only michael moore's fahrenheit, 911. there are movie theaters run the country. some of us like in some of the same points you make in the beginning from the other side. many people think that hitler invented this concept of the big lie and it's a description of hitler propaganda. when hitler used the term big lies he wasn't returned to himself. his plan was that the jews are the ones perpetrating the big lie. he said the jews are evil and wicked and trying to take over the world. what he's doing is taking the stuff that he actually did and blaming it on the juice. so this is freud's term. you take your own since the projec