they did try bringing enslaved people from ireland to barbados. they said to barbados, someone was to take us lave -- which by the way shows slavery wasn't yet racial. you could be enslaved for being catholic because it was about to a record to get to cut? are right, were not getting anyone from here, here. where can you get someone to cut the cane? >> either children or family members? >> no, formerly in think people are as far away from the plantation that they can get. >> are going back to the plantations, right? >> canada? not canada. >> ukraine? >> now, the gas. the answer is people were brought from the other country in england in marina. marina's relatives were brought. and if you have ever been to trinidad to today ago, to jamaica, to the guyana though there are many people from india and the caribbean. why are they? because they were brought to cut the cane. >> the slaves that i don't want to work on these plantations. with the slaveowner, what indian planters did is they started a system we called indenture, where you are not getting sla

they did actually try bring and insulate people from ireland to barbados your they said to barbados someone was to take a slave -- by the way, shows slavery was a racial. you could be enslaved for being catholic. because it was about who are we going to get to cut the cane. >> all right, you're not getting in with them here. you're not getting anyone from here. you are not getting anyone from here. where can you get someone to cut the cane? >> your children or family members? >> no. the formerly enslaved people are as far away from the plantations they can get. >> they are not going back to those plantations, right? >> canada. >> nope. >> ukraine? >> no. the answer is people were brought from the other country in england's control, india. marina's relatives were brought -- people from india. any of you have ever been to trinidad, to tobago, to jamaica, to the guy on this know there are many people from india in the caribbean's. why? because they were brought to cut the cane. >> once those bells told and is slated i do want to work on these plantations, what the slave owners, but the india p

we've got dominican, barbados, all these places with cane planted on it. espanola. these are all places where sugar is being planted. what is this now the beginning of in terms of world history? >> now, to be clear, there has always been slavery everywhere in the world. slavery is as old as world history. it has existed in every part of the world. however, as marina was saying, people are now -- christopher columbus brings sugar over on his second voi yays. what do you need to have a lot of sugar? you need fertile soil. you need wind or water power to run the mill. you need to be near water so you can ship it. you need a lot of wood; right? you need to keep the fires burning because this bubbling vats of sugar, but you need one more thing to produce sugar. what do you need? >> [inaudible] >> hard workers. >> you need hard, cheap workers. you need people who you can get to work for very little because the more they work, the cheaper they are, what happens to the price of sugar? >> it goes higher. >> or, more likely it? >> goes lower. >> it goes lower because you're p