you request can go up the ladder and co-written with barbara annis. get in touch with john gray and the rest of his work and workshops and other things he's got going on. marsvenus.com. john gray, always fun to have you here. >> always fun. thank you, susan. >> stay with us, more ahead. ,,, . >> welcome back. jewish vocational services or jvs started in no one 73 to help re-- 1973 to help recent jewish grads find work. forty years later, they expanded the service to anyone who needs help finding a job. here with details, we welcome from jvs, abby snay, the executive director. nice to you have here and thanks for coming in. >> thank you for having me. >> and let's get it clear. you don't have to be jewish to love or -- [ indiscernible ] >> absolutely not. part of the values are helping everyone to repair the world. we're a broad-based organization helping over foe thousand people a year from literally every walk of life. >> you're a non-profit. i assume the service is free if someone comes to you for help? >> the service is subsidized. someone is payin