. >> certainly does, we're joining by manu raju, barbara comstock and tim naftali.u, as republicans are deciding whether to vote him out, we have the speaker telling them to weigh their conscience. what are they weighing here? >> yeah, some of them are deciding, waiting to decide to vote when it will ultimately come down. some of them are concerned about the precedent that is set as boris noted this is the first time ever that someone is kicked out of the house, without being a member of the confederacy or conviction. and also the sheer politics of this, him getting kicked out of the how's would narrow the majority. raises the majority in the district that joe biden carried. that means that democrats could pick up that seat and something that republicans are, frankly, concerned about. i talked to the new york republicans who are freshmen, the ones pushing him out. i asked about it this morning, about the fact that speaker johnson has reservations about this. they still said it's time for republicans to kick him out, regardless of the political consequences. >> we do

lawyers, including george conway, retired federal judge michael luttig, and former congresswoman barbara comstock, called attention to this very problem in the legal profession. they write that many of their conservative colleagues appeared to have been led astray and they're alarmed by it. writing, quote, the growing crowd of drifters, frauds, and conman willing to subvert the constitution and long estaished constitutional principles for the whims of political expediency, the actions of these conservative republican lawyers are increasingly becoming the new normal. now, i've been skeptical of recent efforts to use the 14th amendment to disqualify donald trump from the ballot because even if those efforts are successful, it doesn't solve the problem. see, you are only getting rid of trump, not getting rid of trumpism. that's the root of the issue that we're dealing with right now. the movement that this is true of lawyers are proposing is one step closer in the right direction. it's an active effort that places the responsibility of defeating trumpism at the very feet of republicans. the same par

conservative lawyers, george conway, retired federal judge jay michael luttig, and former congresswoman barbara comstock, all of whom call attention to this problem within the legal profession. they write that many of their conservative colleagues appear to have been led astray, and they are loved by it. in fact, they are loud by, the owing crowd of reckless fraud and conman willing to subvert the constitution, and long established constitutional principles for the whims of political expediency. the actions of these conservative republican lawyers are increasingly becoming the new normal, in quote. now, from its very inception, i was extremely skeptical of the recent efforts to use the 14th amendment to try and disqualify donald trump from the ballot. the reason why was, beyond the legality of it, i understood, as i want you to understand, that even if those efforts had been successful, you are only getting rid of donald trump, you are not getting rid of trumpism. it is treating the symptom, and not the problem. and that is the root of what we are dealing with right now. that movement, this trio of lawy

michael luddig, former congresswoman barbara comstock of virginia and george convey.ith you. what are you most concerned about and hope to address at this summit? >> thank you for having us with you this morning, mika. american democracy, the constitution, the rule of law are the clauses of our times, and they are righteous causes if ever there have been righteous causes. the nation's legal profession is uniquely positioned and uniquely obligated to support and defend the constitution and the rule of law and american democracy. george and barbara and i feel that the conservative legal movement in particular has a special obligation to stand up and defend american democracy and the rule of law, but we feel that the conservative movement has failed to do so over the past eight years. it has not responded. it has not stood up and defended the constitution and the rule of law against the extraordinary constitutional and legal excesses of the trump administration and frankly the former president himself. we believe it's time for a new conservative legal movement of the kin

york times" that you co-wrote with fellow george members george conway and former congressman barbara comstockouwre, quote, should mr. trump return to the white house, he'll arrive with a coterie of lawyers and advisors who, like him, are determined not to be thwarted again. e federalist society, long the standard bearer for the conservative legal movement, has faed to respond in this period ofcrisis. you continue, more alarming is the growing crowd of grifters, frauds, and con men wli to subvert the constitution and long-established constitutional principles for the whims of political expediency. the actions of these conservative republican lawyers are increasingly becoming the new normal. for a group of lawyers sworn to uphold the constitution ts is an indictment of the nation's legal profession. any legal movement that could foment such a constitutional abdication and attract lawyers willing to advocate its unlawful causes is right for a major reckoning. we must rebuild a conservative legal movement that supports and defends american democracy, the constitution, and the rule of law, and inc