. >> barbara elfman, wellesley college, davis scholar and harvard undergraduate school of education. this is a little bit of a statement so forgive me, dean. >> quick statement. >> but the cambridge school of architecture and landscape architecture is something you didn't mention today which was established here for women who were not allowed to go to the graduate school of design. >> they went to smith college for a long time. >> right. >> and then it became part of smith and then in 1942 they were finally allowed to the graduate school of design when all the men went off to war, but one of the reasons they didn't want to actually become part of harvard or radcliffe in the research i've done is because they wanted to learn as a group of women in a style that was appropriate for women, that they felt, and i'm wondering if in some of your research if you've come across, going back to faculty, women faculty, that sometimes the women's college or women working together is really sometimes the best? >> yeah. well, certainly the institution that i work at would argue that. the institution