you want to -- >> barbara hale, yes, that, and in addition, they are indicating in their letter that they are in active conversation with counterparties that operate power plants in california and are proposing those plants as part of the supply portfolio and i think they indicated, i don't want to misrepresent what they say here , they indicated that they are carbon neutral and are -- i'm looking for the language with respect to the operating status, mr. kelly. in state renewable i see here. >> [inaudible]. >> here it is, facilities operated by union lay boxer i didn't want to misrepresent how they characterized these facilities, so they are carbon neutral wind and in-state hydro, those are the two elements that they point out in their letter. >> great, thank you, i appreciate that. >> do you have a proposal to sonoma county? >> i don't, i haven't seen the proposal they put before sonoma county, they haven't reviewed the bid packages, sonoma county hasn't. >> alright, mr. [inaudible], you wanted to comment on item 5e? >> i wanted to thank one of the commissioners, commissioner anson

that is thanks to the hardand kelly and the manager at puc and barbara hale and the second thing we'reng to do is take a page out of what we're doing with clean tech and biotech life sciences. you see what mission bay is doing. they have for the last ten years building up a ecosystem of pharmaceutical companies and san francisco medical center and integrated around with the research teams to form a very strong research center and because of that center more and more companies around the world are locating there because they want to be next to the laboratory innovators. they're sharing laboratories, sharing scientists and collaborating and all with solutions about the future of medicine. taking a page out of that why couldn't we do the same thing with clean tech? we want to invite institutions like our california puc, our san francisco puc, our department of the environment, organizations and private institutions like sun run or pg&e to potentially create the network of their innovative sites and their innovative divisions to work together and potentially in a physical location or just

. >> barbara hale, assistant manager for power. it's the final rates presented to commission. the resolution you adopted that authorized us to go forward with the board of supervisors stated with those conditions present were and directed us to come back to the commission and present that we have met those conditions precedent we would do that in the context of presenting you with the final rates and the shell confirm. that's that step that is 106 days to 150 days from now. thank you. >> thank you. >> commissioner mar? >> thank you, i wanted to go back to commissioner vetore's motion to reduce the 11.9 rate to 11.5 rate. i'm very supportive for that. i want to thank her for the five years of work on this and the organizations that we are hopeful to hear from in a few minutes and they are work to reduce the not to exceed rate significantly. i think that's been a big victory. i'm supportive of going that extra few feet to meet the pg & e green tariff rate and i also want to say that barbara miller gave us the document that shows that there is a plan for the 11.5 cents rate and i