judge barbara jones and george thomas reffet.ty lines jurist. and then barbara jones the special master for michael cohen and rudy giuliani. here yet apparently, trump's team is not even a clay with her. it scared me the name of the game here is delay. >> you are thinking about such a sensitive material. i mean, you don't want this to go on for so long. sarah, the january six committee is said to be in person hours from now to discuss whether to buy trump, and pence. to testify. what are you expecting? >> look. this is a big thing that the question has been talking about. they want to formally request appearances from donald trump and mike pence. they don't necessarily think that either of these men are going to show up and testify before the committee. obviously, there in the final stage of their investigation before they have the right to report. they are weighing what it would look like in the record if we don't even make a formal attempt to try to call these men. you know, these people the scent of our investigation. enough r

the justice department puts forth to former federal judges, the honor of barbara as jones, and thomasy enough, they were both appointed by republican presidents, and barbara jones was a special master in the michael cohen and rudy giuliani investigation. meanwhile, team trump has put forth the honor raymond thierry and paul hawk jr.. a reminder, the final decision, if there is a special master, and that is a gigantic if here, because the doj is in the midst of fighting a special master ruling. but if there is one appointed, the buck stops with judge cannon. that is to say, if they don't agree, she gets the final word. joining us once again is john fish wake, former u.s. attorney from the western district of new york. mr., it happened in this hour, let's talk about these candidates that we have on the list here from the government's proposed candidates, the honorable barbara s jones, the honorable thomas b. griffith, both appointed by republican presidents. how do you read that? >> that goes back to my last half full. i think it's impressive the doj would put up folks have been appoint

doj is putting forward -- barbara jones and thomas griffith, trump's lawyers have also selected a former federal judge, raymond dearie, as well as paul hawk junior, former general for the state of florida. and in a somehow shocking he had not surprising and on brand move, trump's team is asking the taxpayers, to pay for half of the cost of the special master. the doj has said, trump himself, should be responsible. joining me now, congressional correspondent for the new york times. we welcome back to the sunday show. this trump world, see this tussle, over at the special master, as a win? >> i think they've gotten farther than some people thought they would. initially, when they put in the filing for the special master, a lot of legal analysts dismissed it, as, not something that will reap fruition. -- judge cannon, it seems like they will get a special master. what will be the outcome of that? most people i talked to, it will be a delay of the investigation. whether it can be a short delay, or a long delay. will be up to the judge, to how much she's going to extend the deadline for the m

nominees, the justice department putting forward two retired federal judges, thomas griffeth and barbara jonesou? >> they're both respected judges. jones ahh oversaw the giuliani law firm, possibly the cohen one too. that would make a lot of sense. of course, that is very much in line with the doj wanting to limit whatever the special master does, if one is appointed. they don't even think you need one just to the attorney/client issues and really is continuing to fight back against society of expanding it to having a special master look at executive privilege as well. griffeth was well known in dc and is a respected jurist. >> and separately trump's team proposing two names of their own. attorney tom deary, paul huck jr. curious to get your thoughts on those names and ultimately how you think whoever gets picked will influence the case. >> i would say those picks by the trump team are more obviously partisan picks. there's been reporting of what their ties are. obviously as evan was reporting to the trump team. i think the question for the judge here is in many ways less who they pick. i thin

the names of the four lawyers that they recommended, former retired judge barbara jones who is doing the special master review of rudy giuliani's investigation, also documents from the rudy giuliani investigation. she also did the michael cohen case. the former retired judge, again, from the district court in d.c. circuit whose name is tom griffith. and on the trump side they're recommending ramon deery, a former chief judge in the eastern district of new york, and paul huck jr. who is a former jones day partner, jones day representative of the trump campaign in 2016. some close republican ties right there. don? >> laura, i want to bring you in now. what about this issue of clearances that's been so critical for all of this? what could any of this mean? >> just think about this. we're talking about tumts of the highest security level, the highest classification levels. there were agents on the scene we've been told in the reporting that weren't even able through their own clearances to review what they may be taking from mar-a-lago. the idea you're going to have get someone not only

subject of a search warrant, the special master was a retired federal judge from here in new york, barbara jones. it took her four months to get through the documents. april to august of 2018. however, however, there we were talking about a number of laptops, phones, electronic devices. the amount of information on a phone and laptop is many times more than can be obtained than dozens of hard copy boxes. >> there's another aspect, the judge made clear she thinks the former president is, i'll describe it as like a special category. one place she writes about it in the order is as a function of plaintiff's former position as president of the united states, the stigma associated with the subject seizure is in a league of its own. in doing so, she's -- would you say she's completely rejecting the department of justice's argument, even from the attorney general and down, when pressed with any aspect of charging donald trump, everyone should be treated the same. >> it's interesting because there are two angles to this here. she's saying, remember, this was a magistrate judge who signed off on the sear

the doj last week cemented its recommendations for special master including judge barbara jones who servedthe federal bench in manhattan and thomas griffith, former d.c. appeals court interest. the trump team and doj disagree on what duties the special master will have. trump's team wants the special master to review all the documents seized by the fbi from mar-a-lago. the doj and general poses a special master and does not think that special master should inspect classified documents or resolve claims of trump's executive privilege. both sides also disagree on the timing of this entire investigation. the government wants the review process to wrap up by mid-october before the midterms. trump's team wants the investigation to last 90 days, pushing up estimate terms. the doj has also informed the 11th circuit court of appeals that it plans to file an appeal, although it has not made clear what kind of appeal. the government has asked judge cannon to delay her order that the doj has to stop using seized documents in a criminal probe until that special master is appointed. trump's team insist

jones day was a law firm that represented trump in 2016, the trump campaign in 2016. he's married to barbaraes. so there's obviously some very, very big differences between these nominees for the two sides. the judge is going to end up having to make the decision, don, over who is going to end up doing this review. keep this aside, though, right, there's a total other fight going on. the justice department wants this judge, judge conor, to put aside her order so that they can continue doing this investigation, this criminal investigation. they want to make sure that the fbi can keep looking at 100 pages of classified documents and make sure the intelligence community can continue doing their work. that is something separate that is going to continue -- they're going to continue fighting over meanwhile they try to get this special master up and going. >> yeah. we're going to talk about this in just moments at the top of the hour so i want both of you to stay with us. much more on both of our top stories. the fight over the mar-a-lago docs moves to a new stage. and we're outside the buckingham

doj, putting forward retired federal judges, barbara jones, thomas griffith.king news. the new york times reporting this evening, the department of justice has not subpoenaed two of trump's former white house advisers. the times says, former white house political director, brian jack, and senior policy adviser and writer stephen miller are among more than a dozen people getting subpoenas this week. according to the paper, the move is, quote, part of a widening investigation related to mr. trump's postelection fundraising, and plans for so called fake electors, according to people briefed on the matter. the january 6th committee has also been looking into trump's fundraising schemes. here is a big, here's what they described what was going on doing one of those hearings. >> between election day and january six, the trump campaign sent millions of fundraising emails to trump supporters, sometimes as many as 25 a day. the emails claimed, quote, the left wing mob was undermine the election, and called on supporters to, quote, step up and protect the integrity of t

a private attorney, the other three widely respected former federal judges, worth noting judge barbara jones was the special master for rudy giuliani and michael cohen. and who pays, doj says donald trump you want the master you pay. trump says we should split the cost 50/50. doj says it should be done by october 17th. trump's people say more like 90 days, into mid december. and they disagree on the scope of the review. trump's team said the special master should look at all documents, doj says no they should not look at classified documents and has no authority to decide issues of oexecutive privilege. all these issues land on the judge. >> on that subject there, federal prosecutors have gone back to the judge and asked her to put a stay on her legal rulings. what's that? >> it's a pause. while the special master is doing her work, doj you can't use the documents. doj said judge we want you to reconsider the part of the ruling that relates to the classified documents, about 1% of the documents. doj argues there is no privilege claim over classified documents and you cannot halt us, stop us,

the doj nominated to former federal judges thomas griffith and barbara jones. >> the trump team proposeired judge raymond dearie and florida lawyer paul huck junior. however, the 2 sides differ on the scope of the duties. the independent arbiter would have lawyers for trump say that they believe the special master should review all documents seized by the fbi during its search. the justice department says the our butter should not be permitted to inspect classified records. it's not clear when a district court judge will rule or what form that ruling will take russia's reshuffling some of its troops as the ukrainian military reclaims. some areas lost in the russian invasion today, russia's defense ministry announced it was pulling back thousands of soldiers from the kharkiv region in the east after a successful assault by ukrainian forces, ukraine recaptured one town that was a vital transport operation for the russians. russian troops also left another area and are claiming to regroup in the donetsk region. the senior russian official in kharkiv told citizens who wish to leave the area

the doj is putting forward barbara jones, -- trump's lawyers have also selected a former judge, as well as lawyer paul heck junior -- former attorney general for florida. the judge that granted trump's request for a special master will ultimately decide who gets the job. it will be a difficult role no matter who gets it, and it's fraught with potential risk. the judge who approved the original mar-a-lago search faced death threats. they're not the only one threatened in recent rise -- joining me now -- professor good to see you, thank you so much. it's fascinating that something like yours even exists. polarization and extremism research lab. let's discuss that. one of the things that's on peoples minds right now is the degree to which prosecuting donald trump for anything in a serious way could lead to further polarization and political violence in this country. how do you evaluate that? >> thanks for having me. it's great to be here. you're right, as a research lab, we've only been around for around two, two and a half years. it's relatively new. were toddlers in the space. we come at

barbara jones is a clinton appointee and thomas griffith who is a george w. bush appointee. the trump legal team is suggesting retired federal district court judge and reagan appointee raymond deery. the other, a former deputy attorney general from the state of florida, paul huck jr. this all comes as the doj gauff judge eileen cannon to give them access to the materials seized. otherwise the doj says they plan to appeal to a higher court in the interest of national security. meanwhile, saturday former fbi official and frequent trump critic floated a theory on twitter that the former president may have transferred classified documents from florida to his other property. he writes, better check. the national archives and records administration e-mails trum top say material is missing and may be at mar-a-lago. on may 9th, he is getting on a plane and then boxes are loaded on to the plane. that's when he leaves the florida state to new jersey. it's unclear what he brought with him. the chair says a briefing to get a damage assessment of the classified documents is now on hold f

i participate this d in one whe retired judge barbara jones was the special master and it worked fairly and firnefficiently. and 60 days he has, i think that he will do it much quicker. and judge cannon who i think is unfairly vilified wrote in her opinion that they may not get any of the relief that they want. but we need to restore confidence in the justice system and an independent third party looking at it hopefully will do that. judge cannon just received threat, someone was arrested threatening to kill her and her family two days ago. a horrible tragedy. and in new jersey a son was murdered. in a 60 day window, nothing would happen anyway. so a believe delay-bbelieve -- important so we get it right. >> and some legal minds have taken a different view. do you see things the same way as john? >> somehow. my problem is that her ten page decision rests on weak legal grounds. i think that it sets risky precedent in this case. and also her commenting on her lack of trust on the doj and leaks on the fbi, and that i'm just not going to take your word for it department of justice. i'm not

judge barbara jones was the special master for the rudy giuliani and michael cohen search so she's donethey also dish agree on who pays. donald trump says why don't we split the cost 50/50. doj's response is you want the special master, we don't, so you should pay it all. they also disagree on timeframe. trump's team wants to slow this down. they want 90 days. doj says the spalsh master should be able to get this done by october 17th, about a month from now, and importantly, they disagree on the scope. donald trump's team says the special master should review all 11,000 documents. doj is arguing the special master should not be able to review classified documents and should not be able to make decisions on executive privilege. >> those classified documents they're saying really relate to national security issues. they want to be able to review those immediately and continue with their investigation. if they're classified, is there an argument for privilege of any kind? >> doj's point is if they're classified, they can't be covered by executive privilege. donald trump's response is it is

i could see certainly barbara jones, wonderful judges. no apparent conflict.ou mentioned, has that conflict. on executive privilege, you have it right. in the 20 or so pages that was filed by the trump team this morning, the amount of space dedicated to the former president having executive privilege would be zero. they've literally had no argument and that's because it's just such a bad argument. there are so many ways in which it doesn't apply and the government here really tried to give the judge an offer ramp to say look, before we take an appeal and have a delay and embarrassment, you know, let's just, the law is so clear on this one category, let's just resolve that. >> and ken, one other thing that happened over the weekend is on cnn, mark warner, the intelligence chair on the senate side, said they have not had any briefing on damage assessment. he said there can't be damage assessment while this master argument is going on. are they holding up the damage assessment? >> yes, that's what the justice department asserted is because of this ruling, the ent

on friday, the doj proposed former federal judges, barbara jones and thomas cough it. -- in florida'srney general, paul -- each side would now respond to the others proposed candidates on monday. this is not the only thing that they disagree on. new reporting for the washington post reads, quote, the two sides are at odds on the legal issues at the core of the class, including what materials a special master should be allowed to examine, and whether trump as a former president should be able to assert any executive privileges in this review. joining me now to discuss, msnbc political chamber -- contributor eugene daniels, msnbc analysts, charles coleman jr.. it's good to see both. charles, i want to start with you. where do you make of the candidate proposed for special master? how will the court decide who will review the documents seized at mar-a-lago? >> alicia, i think the big part that the court has to answer is that question that you posed at the end, the nature of the case and issues a play. i think that highlights who is most qualified in order to do with these things. the doj

the doj -- barbara jones barber graphics while trump's legal team and also former judge and paul hawknsel to than florida governor charlie chris. another big sticking point is the question of if the special will have access to around 100 documents or so. labeled top, secret want to bring in nicholas wu and mark perot bliss -- former cia officer as well. hey nicholas, let me start with you on this one. give us the play-by-play, the abc's whatever you want to call it of monday. what we can expect to see and court or come out of court should say especially when it comes to 100 or so top secret documents? >> well what we will see moving forward is how exactly judge cannon rules on what appears to be some of the disagreements between doj and trump's lawyers. that timeframe for what the special maps are dealing with. whether the hundred or so documents marked classified, will be a part of this review and what doj can do with. them for that matter, who even pays for it and so something that we will see play out in the court in the coming days but one thing is for, sure doj is threatened to m

the department of justice is putting forward retired federal judges barbara jones and thomas griffithers have also selected a judge, raymond dearie. there is also the lawyer, paul junior. he's the former deputy attorney general for florida. the doj and donald trump's teams are also in disagreement over the scope of duties that the special master will have. the back and forth is playing out under the fbi's investigation into the several hundred classified documents that were recovered from mar-a-lago over the last years. several other investigations were involved in the former president. entirely separately, the justice department has reportedly subpoenaed two top trump aides. they want to talk to brian jack and stephen miller as a part of a widening investigation into efforts to overturn the 2020 election. joining me now is barbara mcquade, the former united states attorney and msnbc legal analyst. i am with charlie savvy, a washington correspondent for the new york times and msnbc contributed. he is also the author of power warriors. barbara, you and i talked about this a few weeks a

it is worth noting that barbara jones has been appointed a special master.live in a post irony world. she was a special master when one of donald trump's lawyers had his office searched. she was a special master when another of donald trump's lawyers had his office searched, rudy giuliani. and now she is being offered as a special master in what would be a hot trick of special master duties. when donald trump had his home in florida searched. she certainly has the experience. she has the qualifications for. >> i had not put that all together, thank you for doing. so something else this week, steve bannon pleaded not guilty to new york charges for defrauding donors who contribute to his campaign. trying to find a border wall. here is how he described the indictment proceedings. >> one of the best days of my life, very powerful and spiritual day. it was a lot of things that came into high clarity. i was totally in the zone. they are not going to shut me up. >> as bannon was indicted on thursday, i want to add that he said they would have to kill me first. i ha

guess that's not a surprise, including barbara jones or thomas griffith.lso say that one of trump's team proposal, u.s. district court judge raymond derie would a good pick. they write that judges jones, griffith, deerie have substantial experience and they have presided over federal, criminal and other cases vofrg national security and privilege concerns. the government respectfully opposes the appointment of paul huck jr. who does not appear to have similar experience. the same time, attorneys for former president donald trump informed the judge they oppose both of the doj's proposed special master candidates but didn't provide any specific reason as to why. in a filing monday, the team wrote, it is respectful to withhold the basis for opposition from the public and likely to be widely circulated pleading. so this might put retired judge deerie in the lead since he's the one candidate they both seem to agree on. refreshing our top story, nbc news confirmed that 40 subpoenas were issued over the past week to people associated with former president trump.

. >> reporter: the infowars host is trying to limit the financial damages judge barbara bellis ordered jones must pay for promoting lies about the sandy hook massacre. >> you acknowledge that among the things that you said about sandy hook was that it was fake, yes? >> yes. >> synthetic? >> yes. >> manufactured? >> yes. >> with actors? >> yes. >> reporter: the lawsuit claims sandy hook families and a first responder at the massacre were harassed and even threatened after the infowarse murdf 20hil6 adults a hoaxis 6-year-old son benjamin, testified wednesday. >> people were, you know, accusing me of lying, telling me ben never lived, telling me that i was going to burn in hell. >> reporter: last month, alex jones was ordered to pay nearly $50 million to another sandy hook family. the damages in this case could be even higher, and jones faces a third trial later this year. jericka. >> all right. nikki battiste for us tonight. thank you. >>> with less than 50 days until the midterm elections, the latest cbs news battleground tracker poll finds two very close races in georgia. democratic senator

two candidates proposed by the government are retired judge thomas griffith and retired judge barbara jonesh both choices. we don't know why. attorneys want to wash out the issues behind closed doors with the federal judge and federal prosecutors. trump's team proposed a senior federal judge who is retired named judge and an attorney. the government in a filing last night announced thumbs-up for the judge as a candidate. d.o.j. does not believe the other is suitable given his experience. trump team filed a response to the government's argument that a special master should have limited powers, trump's team disagrees calling it a document storage dispute that spiraled out of control. she wants judge cannon to reconsider her ruling telling investigators to stop examining documents seized from mar-a-lago until a special master reviews them first. it says they compete efforts to see if there were any other records not being properly stored. the judge's order according to the government poses a potential for ongoing risk to national security. the d.o.j. announced an appeal to the 11th circuit cou

judge barbara bellis ordered jones must pay for promoting lies about the sandy hook massacre. >> youwledge that among the things you said about sandy hook was that it was fake, yes. >> yes. >> synthetic. >> yes. >> manufactured. >> yes. >> with actors. >> yes. >> reporter: the lawsuit claims sandy hook families and a first responder at the massacre were harassed and even threatened after the infowars host called the murders of 20 children and six adults a hoax. david wheeler who lost his 6- year-old son benjamin testified wednesday. >> people were accusing me of lying, telling me i had never lived, and telling me i was going to burn in hell. >> reporter: last month, alex jones was ordered to pay nearly $50 million to another sandy hook family. the damages in this case could be even higher, and jones faces a third trial later this year. jericka. >> duncan: all right, nikki battiste for us tonight, thank you. with less than 50 days before the midterm elections the latest cbs news battleground tracker poll finds two very close races in georgia. democratic senator raphael warnock leads h

the doj is suggesting two former federal district judges, barbara jones is a clinton employee, and thomasee. the other former deputy attorney general in florida, paul huck jr. as the justice department gave aileen cannon until thursday to restore the documents seized at mar-a-lago, otherwise the doj says it plans to appeal to a higher court in the interest of national security. let's bring in nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian, and ken, how long can they go back and forth disagreeing on who the special master is, and can this doj appeal overrule all of that? >> good morning, mika. it could, and today is an important day because the judge has given the trump side until 10:00 a.m. this morning to respond with a brief to the justice department's appeal and their request that she stay part of her order. in terms of the special master, it's really interesting. there were three sort of noncontroversial candidates, former federal judges and there's one that the trump side put forward, paul huc, who is not a former judge, his wife was appointed to the 11th circuit by pre

. >> let's bring in cnn political commentator van jones and barbara comstock.heard the mayor talking about how at the very least they don't get the coordination with the governors before the migrants are dropped off why what do you make of what they are up to? >> it is shameful. there is a way to handle this. we need more immigration and not less. it would help with inflation and everything else. unfortunately there is a complete break down and you need for someone like desantis to convene the governors. use a bipartisan group to do more and coordinate it. they are just doing the stunts and the ambushes to score political points and so it's actually -- they are i would say using or pimping the pain of the border towns that need help and making the political grand gestures is disgusting. >> what do you think, barbara? this is not a solution to put people on a plane or a bus. why not offer solutions like van is saying? >> ironically charlie baker of massachusetts made the very point that van was just making saying we need workers in massachusetts and thanked the

another leadership challenge before the next election is due in 2 years time. nadine barbara al jazeera london. i is in ms. jones, me nath westman sandra, a lot of promises being made to can we expect to hear more on tuesday when she actually becomes prime minister already could be forgiven phone losing count of the number of times she said deliver in that 5 minutes address because she wants to really highlight the fact that she wants to cut tax right around the wicket. and in doing that, she wants to grow the economy. she wants to take on the treasury. she's got a lot of experience with figures. she's an accountant by profession. she's had 8 years in ministerial posts and 3 successive governments, and she's insisting that she will push things in the right direction. she'll tackle the issue of the crisper millions of families run across the u. k. in terms of energy bills chill, possibly introduce a freeze. that's a speculation we'll hear about that a little more of that. all the steps of drap downing street to more or indeed inside downing street have yet to work out exactly how that will happen. but she is insi

barbara boxer as did maxine waters as did jones. donald trump does it, he is undermining the election, but these guys do it and it is fun. stacey abrams says her election was the big lie about 2016. about donald trump, i mentioned the hunter biden story being suppressed. 60% say they would not have voted for biden if they had known. the election guy at a mess nbc says that 30,000 votes in three states would have changed the election to donald trump. looking at michigan, the secretary of estate used covid as an excuse to send mail-in ballots to everyone whether they requested one or not. donald trump followed -- filed a lawsuit. the supreme court didn't take it up. a judge said what they did was illegal 221, meaning the lawsuit wasn't ridiculous. in pennsylvania, wills and regulations broken including accepting mail-in ballots. donald ling followed a lawsuit. dershowitz said they would pick it up. there is nothing wrong with hiring a lawyer. the fact that saying he was orchestrating an insurrection was absurd. they keep talking that

democrats objected in that year to certifying ohio's electoral votes with senator barbara boxer joining stephanie tubbs jones. 31 democrats did that and 12 are in congress today and i know they're -- this precedent goes back even further than 2005 and 2001. we can take this back to 1961 with president john f. kennedy. j.f.k., just a quick history lesson, drafted his own secret slate of electors declaring himself the winner of hawaii's electoral vote when the state originally called for richard nixon. today, let's talk about today, despite the history. today, the actual purpose of this is bill is an attempt to federalize our elections. this is the way to backdoor h.r. 1 into legislation. and this is nothing more than an attack on president trump and the 2020 election, attack on a man who's not been in office for nearly two years. this is about giving congress unprecedented authority on how to interpret state law, how to restrict state discretion, and how to impose control on state election officials. for those reasons, i urge my colleagues to oppose this rule and i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker

jones industrial average lost 338 points. the nasdaq fell 154 points. the s&p 500 slipped 42. the dow and s&p were down 3%, nasdaq fell 4%. author and activist barbaraich has died in alexandria, virginia, after a recent stroke. she called herself a myth buster and challenged ideas about class, religion, and the american dream. barbara ehrenreich was 81 years old. still to come, dr. anthony fauci he discusses new booster shots that target covid subvariants. extreme heat in china threatens a major water source. how nasa's latest mission is setting the stage to send astronauts back to the moon. and much more. >> this is the pbs newshour from our studios in washington and in the west from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. judy: americans 12 and older should be able to start getting updated booster shots for covid within days. approval this week came for new boosters from pfizer and moderna. they will hopefully provide more protection against the latest variant this coming winter. the latest questions around this , i am joined by dr. anthony fauci. he is the president's chief medical advisor. welcome back. with the new