. >> can you give us a word picture -- of course she died relatively young, what was barbara jordan like? >> she was -- i have no more to add -- she was just wonderful. you liked to be with her. in other words, she'd come in the room, she'd fill the room. you would think, wow, she just filled the room. she had the voice and all of that was wonderful. she had a lot of energy. she was big, and so you like to be with her because she was funny and, you know, she was just a freshman. so it was that sort of distance, but again the chairman -- the chairman -- who wouldn't like to be around barbara jordan. she was just fun, and she was smart, and he thought, you know -- he thought, wow, what a wonderful career she had ahead of her. he always said, my goodness, this member is going to go far. >> did the chairman do anything at the end of the process special to thank the staff? >> yeah, he thanked the staff. remember, he spent -- it sort of all went back to normal in the sense that all of a sudden, 125 people went away, whatever that number was, and there it was. >> did he go to the congressional

the chairman liked -- why wouldn't you like to be around barbara jordan. she would just fun. and she was smart. and he thought, you know, this is -- he thought, wow, what a wonderful career she had ahead of her. he always said that. my goodness, he said, this member's going to go far. >> did -- did -- did the chairman do anything at the end of the process special or or just to -- to thank the staff? >> yeah. he thanked the staff. i don't remember -- he thank thanked -- i think he went down, because remember he spent, this sort of all went back to normal in the sense that all of a sudden 125 people went away or whatever that number was and there it was. >> did he go to the congressional hotel to see them to see their offices? >> yeah, he went over. he went over a number times. he went over often during the process. bought, again, there was a lot of bitterness. you've read the books and the stories of people who were unhappy on the left with the process. jack brooks and others were still -- others were, i guess, for years carried on that they were very unhappy with the way this

george herbert walker bush, he said that liberals are backing off of liberal, and he spoke for barbara jordannkite said open up the windows and scream it, i am pro choice, i am pro environment, and i'm against nuclear weapons and i am against war. so you have to have a true fighting spirit in the democratic party and not one that wants to triangulate like it did in the clinton years. >> and interesting of looking at the people with a voice, and looking at the donors and at this moment president obama's doer for thes are still much more likely to be small donors than mitt romney's. so when you look at the numbes s and a lovely pie chart of this, the small dollar donors and in other words, folks giving $200 or less for romney is only 10% of the folks. for barack obama, 45% of his donations are coming from the folks who are giving under $200. and that may change as we saw it change from the big money liberal donors like bill maher who may counter act that, but does that increase our sense of the stake or silly that we can never get up to the adelson level? >> well, i make the argument that the d

another one of henry's granddaughters, barbara early allen, and one of henry's great granddaughters, fawn jordan. these are three of paul jennings' many living descendants, his living legacy. he has an important legacy. he was an intrepid anti-slavery activist who secured his own freedom and his family's future. he acted as an operative in major attempted slave escape. he forged passes and freed papers for slaves with his literacy skills. he raised funds for slaves in peril purchased from their masters. his is a unique story. but it must also be appreciated that at the same time, he represents many african-americans of his time whose stories may never be known, but who, like him, overcame a barrage of obstacles in pursuit of the right to rise. as has been said, will is one hinge that is truly new in this word, and that is the history that we have yet to learn. thank you so much. [ applause ] >>> coming up, a program on african-american work and life in washington, d.c., especially in the area around the white this program explores african-american work and life in washington, d.c., especially th

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barbara. thank you. bar bra just back from a visit in jordan. >>> who will mitt romney choose as his running mate?le are being very seriously considered right now. tim pawlenty, john thoon. nicole's book by the way, "it's classified" is now out in paperback. nicole, thanks for coming in. others are being vetted i'm sure as well. but what do you think of the three guys out there -- these three potential vice presidential running mates? >> i don't think you could assemble a list of three more serious, competent, qualified potential running mates for mitt romney. i think if you look at what mitt romney does really well, it's articulate a problem, lay out his strategy for fixing it. what he needs to do in this election is have someone by his side who is just as deliberate and wonky. and i think that what was i think made painfully obvious to everyone and especially me in 2008 that going for the thrill and going for the excitement in that selection is -- has its advantages, certainly sarah palin brought unmatched enthusiasm to john mccain's campaign. but when you look at what this ticket, if they win -

jordan. he's received asylum there, is that right? >> that's correct. >> thanks very much for that, barbara. let's dig a bit deeper.ore, the former bush homeland security advisor joining us. when i interviewed the deputy prime minister of israel this week, he said bashar al-assad's regime is numbered because there are major defections in the military. the military will eventually get rid of this guy. what do you think? >> i have no doubt. i think that what we're seeing is the beginning of a wave. when you see a guy take his mid-21 into jordan, that's a real signal and a real demoralizing effect. so i think we can expect we will see sort of a knock-on effect throughout the syrian military. the other thing is we don't know what of course has not been revealed to us, that is, look, are there other covert clandestine activities on behalf of the united states and other allied governments? we've got to assume there are that would support such an effort. >> i'm sure there's a lot of covert activity going on. we don't have the specific details as you say, but what i assume that's going on. but if bashar al-assad were to go