we're joined by barbara keller.she's a licensed clinical social worker, she's been for over 30 years working in the mental health field and she also has her own company that is called bmk and associates which among other things deals with complex psychiatric case management and also is a member of congregation beth jacob in redwood city, a conservative synagogue in the peninsula which did the second synagogue-based healing conference many moons ago and was a leader on that particular planning committee. welcome, barbara. >> thank you. >> and welcome back, diana, a member of temple isaiah in lafayette and cofounder, cochair in contra costa county. barbara and diana, we're taping this program the week of the tragedy in arizona, and what's come to be known at this point in the media is that the gentleman who is the alleged shooter both killing and injuring any number of people, in fact, was somebody -- is somebody with mental illness, and it's not clear at this juncture to what degree those issues were known or not kno