joining us now is one of the authors of that piece, barbara mcquade, the former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan, currently law professor at the university of michigan. and devlin merits here, a law enforcement reporter. thanks to both of you for time tonight. >> barbara, it's a great piece, but for our viewers, detail the crimes that donald trump could or should be investigated for? >> at this point, of course, doj should just begin investigating. there is enough evidence in the public domain to suggest any number of crimes that have been committed. number one, conspiracy to defraud the united states. this sometimes as you referred to as a client conspiracy, and it's one of the things that robert mueller charge against the internet research agency, obstructing the administration of government, in this case, congress and certifying the vote. number two, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding. that is a charge that has been laid against some of the protesters there that day. a possibly even rico which is the organized crime statute, using the p

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joining me to discuss is barbara mcquade. thanks for joining us on this sunday afternoon. give me your sense per the opinion in "the washington post" talking about the fact this is an ominous sign of what is to come, especially for the former president. >> yes, i have to agree with him because everything about what mo brooks did that day parallels what donald trump did that day. the law protects federal employees when they're acting within the scope of their employment from liability from civil suits. the classic example is a letter carrier who is involved in an accident in his postal truck. as long as he's doing his job driving to and from his delivery route, if he's involved in an accident, the government says you were doing this for us and so we'll step into your shoes. you're immune from suit and people have to sue us, the united states of america, instead. and then there are certain things that the united states cannot be sued for, so oftentimes these suits get dismissed in the end. what the department of justice said this week is mo brooks, even though you are a fede

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attorney barbara mcquade, also new york state senator, and shelly banjo. senator, let me start with you. you have so many connections to the story. including some history with it as well as your official function. your reaction. >> well, nicolle, thank you for having me on. what i'll say is i truly have never been so relieved to be wrong because i never thought that i would live to see the day that governor cuomo would resign. but i want to also just orient this moment on the 11 women who have come forward who did everything that they could despite really being in a position to have everything to lose in the face of intimidation and retaliation to speak the truth and also to hold accountable a governor who has been found to have sexually harassed these 11 women. so i think what today is about is about creating and implementing a culture where every single human being has the ability and the right to pursue a career in a safe work space and without being treated with harassment or retaliation for speaking out or speaking up. >> i wonder if the impeachment p

the politics panel are with me, jennifer rubin an opinion write wert "washington post" post and barbara mcquaded barbara let me start you with, accordings to the npr, the fbi keeps using clues from volunteer sleuths to find the january 6th rioters. is that a normal thing to do as a former u.s. attorney yourself? did you often rely on amateur detectives and sources to help you close cases? >> well, not in a widespread way the way they are, but it does go back to some traditional techniques like using bank surveillance photos and showing them on the 6:00 news, or you may recall that the boston marathon bombers, there was the guy in the black hat and the guy in the white hat that they posted for tips, that did help identify that person, so i think yes, this has been used in the past, but never in such an extensive way. and i think in some ways it's a great tool because they're simply not going to rely on someone's say-so that this is a person they have identified. they will look for other ways to identify that person. does that person look like the person in the photo, for example. but it is a rem

joining us now is msnbc legal analyst, barbara mcquade. she is the former u.s.strict of michigan and a professor at the university of michigan law school. professor, i love your thoughts on this, particularly in light of this excerpt from the opinion. the judge also wrote, quote, this case was never about fraud. it was about undermining the people's faith in our democracy and debasing the judicial process to do so. unquote. i think i speak for just about all of us when i say, duh. i think the amazing thing for some people is that anything has come of it. that there is any kind of punishment for attorneys who do this. >> well, you're right, joshua. it's actually pretty rare for judges to impose sanctions on lawyers. and i think it's because they want to give lawyers a lot of leeway to try out theories. um -- and to develop their cases. but in a case like this, where as the judge said all of the so-called evidence was simply based on speculation and conjecture. there was no basis for this lawsuit. and i think we often use the phrase frivolous lawsuits which is wha

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harvard law school's lawrence tribe along with the university of michigan law school's barbara mcquadel's joyce vance write as evidence of donald trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election mounts, the time has come for the justice department to begin if it hasn't already a criminal investigation of the former president's dangerous course of conduct. the publicly known facts fies to open an investigation. now, attempted coups cannot be ignored. if merrick garland's justice department is going to restore respect for the rule of law no one not even a former president can be above it and the fear of appearing partisan cannot be allowed to supersede that fundamental precept. joining us now is joyce vance one of the authors of that opinion piece, a former federal prosecutor, and msnbc legal contributor. joyce, one of the points in there and a parenthetical is if they have not already begun such an investigation, would we know if the justice department has already begun such an investigation? >> we wouldn't necessarily know. if it was my case and i was a prosecutor, i would prefer that the

thank you, dasha burns and barbara mcquade is going to stick around for a couple of minutes because i ask you some more questions. and in the 3:00 p.m., dasha will be coming up in the 3:00 p.m. hour, and so you don't want to miss that. >>> and now, the dixie fire is still burning, and how to keep it from wiping out more towns on the map. >>> and how far did the ex-president go into overturning the election? as someone who resembles someone else... i appreciate that liberty mutual knows everyone's unique. that's why they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. oh, yeah. that's the spot. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ >>> all summer, i have spoken about how the senate is going to speak on two tracks. and some called the two tracks are unrealistic and unachievable in a slow time line and slow-moving chamber, but we have managed to steer two trains at the same time. there have been some bumps, and there have been some delays, but the senate is on track to finish both tracks. >> all right. after working through weekend, the senat

. >> nbc's anne thompson is covering this, barbara mcquade, now a law professor at the university of michigan and suzanne craig, investigative reporter for "the new york times" who spent several years covering the governor as the albany bureau chief. what happens now? he's got two weeks? what's he doing? packing up? >> well, there is a practical question the governor has to answer and that is where is he going to live once he resign. he's currently in public housing and to the best of our knowledge does not own a house anywhere else. but the big question is, why is it going to take 14 days? why does there need to be a period of two weeks? we expect to get some answers this afternoon, stephanie from kathy hochul who will succeed andrew cuomo on august 24th and become new york's first female governor. now, hochul has never been part of andrew cuomo's inner circle and we are anxious to hear exactly what she knows about that 14-day period and who decided it was going to be 14 days and what will happen. one of the big unanswered questions here in albany is will the impeachment process go

and barbara mcquade, i understand that you in your vast experience as a prosecutor, you dealt with this in detroit when the detroit metropolitan police was investigated and how does this work? does the government send a team of investigators who embed in the police department for x-amount of months? >> yes, and the statue that was enacted after the death of rodney king, and the use of excessive force, but department-wide like you heard them describe. so the law allows the investigators from the justice department to come in and look at the documents and the body cam footage and interview police officers and maybe even community stakeholders to get a picture of what is happening there. and the next step is to go to the police leadership and say, would you like to work this out through a consent decree, and that happens. usually the evidence is clear one way or another about what is happening, and the police leadership will say, yes, we would like to work on resolving this and turn to the decent decree, and then work on resolving the issues with the experts who are hired to help them to a

msnbc legal analyst barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney general, and susan del percio who also served as special adviser to governor cuomo. >> ron allen, susan del percio, tom winter, let me start with you about the accusations and the way he tried to re-cast them today. let's fact check him and his attorney who preceded him before we get into the politics of it. >> sure, andrea. a couple of things. this is the first time we heard the governor address specifically the allegations made against him in that independent report released by the attorney general's office as it pertained to trooper number 1. this is a member of his protective detail who she says was the subject of, rather, sexual harassment and claims in statements made by the governor about her attire and about her dress and about the idea that she was going to be married and that will result in a reduction in her sex drive according to the report. on top of that, she also said he touched her inappropriately at times. the governor addressed it and made several statements