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let's bring back my legal panel barbara mcquade and alice kushner, legal analyst for msnbc. e you with us. barbara, does the 16 have a case, here is trump in some way liable, can be held liable in sicknick's death? >> the complaint brought by his family members alleges things like assault, aiding and abetting assault, violation of a ku klux klan act and wrongful death. i think the challenge for them will be to legal up illegally trump's actions inciting the mob that day and results that occurred. and the question for a jury to decide is the causation question. was it reasonably foreseeable for donald trump when he engaged in those acts to inside the mob? that's a serious injury or death could result from his words? that will be a jury question, but sure, i think they've got absolutely a chance to be able to make that case. there is again $10 million and damages. and it's not instead of but in addition to criminal liability. civil i ability can be an important way of holding people accountable. >> glenn, attorney general merrick garland put out a statement this week highlighti

joining us now is barbara mcquade.sor at university of michigan law school. thank you for being here tonight. let's first get yours thoughts on john eastman's contention that he has somehow saved us from more certain peril in all of this. >> alex, there is a reason that lawyers often tell kind underinvested gagen ought to say anything out loud. you might say something foolish that could be used against you later. he took that advice, john eastman when he was testifying before the january 6th committee, invoking his fifth amendment right against self incrimination. when he's talking to the press, he's got a story and an explanation. when it matters, when he could be held accountable for his lies, he chooses not to answer those questions. >> that is a tall right there, also in effect that this was inconsistent with what we were hearing from mike pence, his aides, and with others in the white house. in the end, it's going to be difficult for him to persuade a jury that he is the one telling them the truth, and everyone el

bomber barbara mcquade, thank you. barbara page is one of our fantastic legal contributors.h you. and that is this concept of, i don't know, expunging the impeachment of donald trump, now becoming a -- i would like something on this democratic -- this republican to do list to be something that feels like a policy priority. but this now seems to be a thing that is going around, a vote to an impeached altria. >> yeah. it's good to be with you, ali velshi. thanks for having me on. i thought that the exchange that you played between the reporters posing a question to the speaker mccarthy was so instructive because this notion that the house republican conference would focus it's time now that it is in the majority expunging and relitigating -- from four years ago, i think, it's very revealing, in terms of giving a sense of a priorities of the house republican conference, which clearly do not comport with the values and the priorities of the american people and this is not a house conference that is prepared to govern in any serious. way and of course any rational observer would

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. >>> joining our coverage, barbara mcquade, former u.s. senior opinion writer for the boston globe, and msnbc contributors. barbara, i almost want to cry. this is exactly, i think, who we all want -- i have no idea what his politics are, but what we all want to know is protecting the rule of law in our city or town or neighborhood, and with absolutely no eye toward partisanship, of course there was no fraud in albuquerque, new mexico. of course no fraud on the scale of the 50% gap by which mr. pena lost by, it has never occurred in albuquerque or anywhere else in this country, as he said. and of course the violent rhetoric has a straight line to the targeting of four democratic public officials in albuquerque. >> absolutely. sometimes it's refreshing when someone just states the obvious facts, isn't it? >> yes. >> we have become accustomed to hearing a crazy spin. when someone says that which is true, it sounds so fresh and new. but i agree with him about what an incredibly concerning development this is for our country, for his community,

pbs, luke broadwater, positive prize-winning congressional reporter for the new york times and barbara mcquade, a veteran federal prosecutor and former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of mixed again. she worked with the doj during the biden transition and is a professor at the university of michigan school of law. look, we've got this -- republicans managed to pass an only one no vote. can you break down what's in there? >> sure, yes, so there's two things to consider here. there is what's actually in the text of the rules. and then there's this sort of secretive side deal of these handshake deals that aren't actually in the text that we know about because people have talked about them. some of the things that are actually in the rules, of, course is probably the most important thing with the motion to vacate, which means that, at anytime, in four or five members of the house freedom caucus get -- with kevin mccarthy, they can essentially oust him if democrats go along with the floor vote from the speakership. so, they have been, in the words of matt gates, a straitjacket around kevin m

attorney barbara mcquade. ost of the sisters in law podcasting professor the university of michigan law school. barbara, the transcripts reveal a lot. we're not gonna be able to dive and everything. in these few minutes that i have with you. ginni thomas. telling the committee that she regrets sending text messages to mark meadows. urging him toand firm with trump's election denials. that was one of the big revelations from this batch what does that tell you? >> you have to wonder whenever anyone expresses regret whether they expressed regret for what they did or whether they expressed regret for getting caught. certainly, these text messages have caused people to properly question whether her husband can be impartial and decisions that he makes about this attack on january 6th. she even acknowledged one of her messages that she was consulting with her friend and that her friend was indeed clarence thomas on the supreme court. i think that that is something we need to keep in mind as cases come before the court

i want to bring into the conversation, msnbc legal analyst barbara mcquade.hanks for being with us and helping us talk about this. i am struck by this line in bob bauer, a personal attorney for the president, statement, the doj requested the search not be made public in advance with its accordance of standard procedures and we agreed to cooperate. can you give us a sense that the standard procedures and what it means for the president 's team to have cooperated. >> ordinarily, the justice department once they come in without advance notice, in part, to alert the property owner that they're coming in with a word that they're coming in for investment it's to hide the drugs, whatever the evidence might be. there is not been cooperation, that was not so much the concern. i imagine the concern would be alerting to press, and you'd have a circus where people are out filming the agents coming in and out of the home, so that's another reason that they would like to keep quiet. they will do their work, without any interference from neighbors or onlookers or the media.

msnbc legal analyst, barbara mcquade, she joins us right now. ara, great to see you, and what do you make of merrick garland deciding to say this and saying it now? >> well, he's clearly looking at the anniversary. he did the same a year ago when we had the first anniversary and i think he wants to assure the public one of the things the justice department's policy manual says is you ordinarily should not eat their conform nor deny the existence of an investigation because it might put people under a shadow of skepticism. but there is an exception to that will, what necessary, to assure the public, the public is aware that there has been some sort of serious crime. you must assure them that the justice department is on the job and looking into it. i think that is why he uses that anniversary to remind the public, that there is -- there still on the job, and no doubt he has said before, they're looking into everyone responsible, and that has to include people who are not at the capital on january 6th. who may have been involved in the planning. >>

i agree with the comments earlier made by barbara mcquade.assified documents discovered, there has to be an aggravating factor to be any criminal investigation or prosecution. based upon what little we know, it does seem that the biden situation is very, very different from the trump situation. the trump situation, there were a whole range of classified documents discovered at mar-a-lago, the aggravating factor being that after two or three requests and two or three certifications, they refused to give them back. there was still some discovered even after somebody on his behalf made a signed statement everything had been turned in. based on what little we know, it does seem to be a very different situation. >> you have donald trump demanding that all of his residences be searched. that's beyond considering what we know. >> well, yes. donald trump and a number of republicans will certainly make a lot about it -- make a lot out of this. it does complicate things for the department of justice. i suspect that were it not for mar-a-lago, there wou

also barbara mcquade, oh, gosh, my words, a u.s. attorney. thank you sir for joining us.thank you for staying with us for all of this breaking news. rob, my question to you is not judging police, obviously they know better than we do, help the public understand why releasing a photo for public safety to say, they went over this person is, is the priority, versus saying, listen, we cannot release his name, we do think that would inhibit our ability to make an arrest in this case. >> there could be several different reasons. it could be once you name him and then people that are going to find out where he lives and then get over to his house and do all these things that are connected to it. it may interfere with that. and then when he released a name it could lead to different things. if you look at the video, the tactical team is going up to the van. they are doing a tactical entry into that. they said they suspected someone was in there. for them to do that, he had to have been nonresponsive. just broke the window. i think they probably think that he -- only because they

barbara mcquade served as u.s. attorney from the eastern district attorney. d as the largest case that the department of justice has ever pursued, with 1000 different defendants. it is striking to me, both the scale of it, also that it is two years in now and it still seems like there is a lot more to go. >> there certainly does. i think one of the things the public does not always appreciate it is how prosecutors need to juggling keep all the balls in the air. a case like this is really -- enormous from case management perspective. and also, while you are prosecuting one type of case, it means you are not prosecuting other types of cases. so, this is no doubt taking on an awful lot of -- but now that the special counsel is the one looking at the people who are not present at the capitol on january 6th, which is how i think they have separated those cases -- people at the capitol are being handled by the u.s. attorney's office and the district of columbia. that is a big project, as you said. it's almost 1000 people there. and special counsel is focusing on peo

biden luke broadwater of pulitzer prize-winning congressional reporter for the new york times, barbara mcquade. a veteran federal prosecutor, a former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan, barb, let's start with the stormy daniels potential hush money payments, why now, this whole thing started seven years, ago what's taken so long? >> yeah, you know it's difficult to know what might of resuscitated this case, because so much of a grand jury investigation is done behind closed doors, it seems to me unlikely simply that alvin bragg has changed his mind, it has to be the case, i think, that he's found additional evidence to prove the case. it seems in light of the number of times and michael cohen says he has met with prosecutors, that he is a key witness in this case, as the likely always has been, but if i were prosecuting this case i would want other evidence to corroborate his testimony, because of his own conviction, and concerns about potential bias that a jury might worry about, who -- so maybe that they were able to uncover objective evidence to corroborate, sit in terms of

barbara mcquade, a veteran federal prosecutor and former u.s.y for the eastern district of michigan. she worked with the doj during the biden transition and is a professor at the university of michigan's law school. it's good to see you both. zach, these new details, they come from a video, what can you tell us about it? >> i should note that this is new details are not ones that have been shown the jury and they won't be. but they were interesting for us because this sort of sheds more light on a meeting between two of the heads of the most prominent far-right groups in the country one day before january 6th and we knew that this meeting had happened. and what we know now is that it was caused by a film crew that was with the brow boys sort of standing far back from them was a male voice saying, this is happening, this is inevitable, let's do this fast and to gather. and we don't know who said what to who and the jury will not hear it either but it's certainly interesting. >> let's talk about why the jury won't hear rhett, barb. the proud boys

with me now, barbara mcquade. it's always great to talk to you as always.the key major differences between these two cases despite the fact that most americans see them as similar. >> yeah, it's really disturbing to see that poll. the cases could not be more different. it's sort of like the difference between an accidental fender bender and deliberately driving your car into a crowd of people. one is an accident on the other is a crime. just because they both involve a car does not mean they are similar in any other way. in this case, we see joe biden who appears to have accidentally retain documents. maybe there is more. two investigations matter. we will get to the facts. mike pence appears to have accidentally retain documents. in the case of donald trump, on the other hand he, battle with the national archives for 18 months refusing to return those documents despite their repeated requests to do so. they finally had to escalate that. he used to granary subpoena. he claimed to return all the documents, giving them a small handful. he was still holding mo

let's get right into that with elie raffa, and barbara mcquade. welcome into both of you. ali, what are you hearing on these discussions of the classified materials? >> yeah, corey, well, at this point we're hearing much more from lawmakers on capitol hill than the white house where president biden. we've got a little more than 24 hours and now from the white house about seeing the discovery days ago. there's something we are now acknowledging. president biden, as you played that clip, they're boarding air force one, in atlanta, ignoring for the second time today, shouted questions from reporters about this issue. but cory, while the president was focused in atlanta, honoring the legacy of dr. martin luther king, and at ebenezer baptist church, focusing of the public's world, it's snowing on the slow drip of discoveries. you have democrats quick to point out that -- the differences in president biden's case, compared to his predecessor, trump, saying that president biden's team voluntarily turned over these classified documents as soon as they were discovered. but they're

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joining us now is the msnbc legal analyst barbara mcquade, former united states attorney and law professoraw school. barbara, what does this mean, the fact that this transcript was released and what it says in it? >> well, it's interesting, ali, i don't think there's anything in other suggests the donald trump is more or less culpable in the civil defamation case or the new statute passed by new york state than he was before. but it does expose boorish behavior. it exposes's worldview as treating women as objects, and it also suggests he may be worried there or there are women out there who are claiming that he has touched them inappropriately. those answers i thought were so interesting. i'm sure most men could answer the question whether they have or touch someone inappropriately and slay now, and equivocally now, and he says well, no, unless you have some liars out there. >> as a prosecutor this is an important point. he was also asked about a statement in which he said about e. jean carroll, she's not my type, so loyal said if not my type, saying not my type the point is perceived and

i want to bring in msnbc legal analyst barbara mcquade, an msnbc contributor and former watergate prosecutorll wine-banks, just barb you and i were talking before. when i spoke with you, and whether not one of the big questions you, had whether or not, in fact, a search warrant had been issued. i wonder what you made of ian's response. >> and i appreciate you asked the question several times, because i kept hearing him say, we were cooperative, but i never quite heard him say there was no warrant. but he finally did. and i appreciate you're asking the, question i appreciate his. answer what he said was, they reached out to doj and offered to open the doors to the home. so that impresses me. that does demonstrate -- >> i'm dara brown, we have breaking news at this hour, with the l.a. sheriff's department says that nine people have been killed in a shooting in monterrey, park valley fourniÉ. here is the press conference. let's listen in. them >> this, evening last night at approximately 10:22 pm, officers from the monterey park police department responded to a local business in the 100 block o

nbc news legal analyst barbara mcquade says prosecutors will have to prove recklessness, that they wereat these two disregarded that risk. according to the santa fe county district attorney assistant director david halls, has already signed a plea geelt for the charge of negligent use of a deadly weapon. he will serve a suspended sentence and six months of probation. in a recent statement, the special prosecutor appointed by the d.a. to the case says quote the evidence shows a pattern of disregard for safety on the set of "rust." if any one of these three people had done their job halyna hutchens would still be alive today. it is that simple. joining me from santa fe is nbc's vaughn hillyard. so vaughn, what could baldwin be facing in terms of a fine or prison time? >> reporter: you're looking on the one count of involuntary manslaughter, katy, up to 18 months in prison but if he were to be found guilty by this jury on that second count of involuntary manslaughter, which that count is enhanced by the fact that he was carrying that firearm and is the one who discharged it, it could be pu

attorney and legal analyst barbara mcquade. when a. g. merrick garland came out yesterday and spoke about these documents, he said they shouldn't be out there. these are not documents that should be out there. is it though, they were mishandled, he said. is it though, is that criminal in itself? to say classified documents were mishandled. is that enough to say we got to launch criminal investigation. >> mishandling classified documents are not criminal, it has to be an intent, willful intent, you knew what you were doing and knew it was illegal. there is one statute that makes it a crime to act with gross legs, that is, i had them with me, and i lost them, i left them somewhere and forgot and lost track of them. that could be but the federal government has never prosecuted anyone in the absence of negligence, with obstruction of justice, so technically, you could have a violation without that, but technically, it requires that willful intent in addition to mishandling. >> the two special counsel investigations that will be going on in pa

barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney, now university of michigan law professor.editor at large at the bulwark. all msnbc contributors. but we're going to start with is this from fort mills, south carolina my colleague nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard. vaughn, take me inside the delusion tour. >> let's see here. we've been following it for a while. and i think, nicolle, it's kind of like a car that you fall in love with here. and in 2020 the car battery died but they went and recharged the battery. and then it cruised on to 2022 and perhaps you could say the windshield wipers stopped functioning and weren't quite able, the republican party had trouble seeing out the windshield, right? but guess what they did. they went and replaced the windshield wipers and they got the car moving again. and that car is donald trump. and if you look at this month, take january 2023 and the foundation that the republican party set for itself, earlier in the month it was kevin mccarthy who remains an ally of donald trump. he won the speakership. and then last week i was in cal

attorney and msnbc contributor barbara mcquade. barbara, good morning. thanks for being with us. let's start with that one, trump suing bob woodward of "the washington post." it seems he consented to be recorded and acknowledged as such for the written word. so what are the chances here that trump could be successful in this lawsuit? >> well, legally, jonathan, i think it's a very weak case. if you sit for 20 hours with a reporter, you shouldn't be surprised that those recordings end up in the public domain. i think ordinarily if you give consent to an interview there's an expectation that those will be used however the reporter sees fit unless there was a specific agreement, an explicit agreement that bob woodward would not do what he ultimately did, i don't see how donald trump prevails here. politically there could be donald trump once again portraying himself the victim in appealing to voters who share his view of the world of one of grievance and resentment. >> it seemed to be a score etisling day for the former president on truth social. he was relitigating many moments fro

let's bring in former attorney general barbara mcquade. we are hearing the attorney general has been briefed on the situation. how might they be monitoring this? >> the federal government will be very interested in this case, even if it might ultimately end up as a steak or prosecution. homicides are typically state court prosecutions unless there is a federal statute that would be violated if this turned out to be a hate crime, for example, that could be a potential civil rights crime that would allow the federal government be involved. even if there is an alternate state court prosecution federal authorities can bring resources that most local communities lack. for example, in a mass shooting one of the things that the fbi will do is to develop a whole rendering -- a 3d model of the crime scene. to be able to do that they need to secure the scene immediately so they can photograph it from every angle. that can be immensely helpful at trial in terms of determining how things played out. how it happened how the shooter killed these people.

joining me, kristin welker, ben rhodes, jeff mason and barbara mcquade. the president refusing to answer questions about whether he would talk to the special counsel if an interview is requested. the president and his advisers not talking about. that isn't making this any less of a political problem for the white house. >> it isn't. it isn't making the questions go away. we are keeping track. this is the fifth straight day president biden ignored questions about this matter has been has been looming over his administration. the latest flashpoint is that republicans are asking for the visitor logs from the president's delaware home, one of two locations where classified documents were discovered. both the secret service and the white house counsel's office saying we don't have you those logs. we don't independently maintain our own visitor logs because it's a private residence. this is a growing problem for the administration. the president is frustrated based on conversations with sources familiar with his thinking, in part, because he sees this as a mome

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attorney barbara mcquade.e lawyers who say they are going to have a news conference an hour and a half after this from the prosecutor. it seems as though they have been notified. we are expecting something in terms of a prosecution to happen. >> yeah. i guess we can't predict what's going to happen. we know these police officers were fired. we know that nichols was killed in police custody. he was a healthy man one moment, 8:30 p.m. on january 7. he was stopped for allegedly recklessly driving. then went to the hospital and died three days later. there's a lot of that story we don't know. certainly, a lot to concern us. at the time that they were fired, the police department said the police officers violated department policy regarding use of force, failure to intervene and failure to render aid. the question a prosecutor looks at in deciding whether criminal charges are appropriate is whether the person willfully violated the civil rights of the motorist and acted beyond what we would expect from a reasonable

. >> frank fouzi, barbara mcquade, thanks for being here tonight.e back, from scalded's in the principles office to smiles, fist bumps, and hugging it out. we'll look at the evolution of kevin mccarthy and marjorie taylor greene's newfound friendship. and find out if they can pull the republican party further right or possibly impact. when the 11th hour continues. there is an islamic faith invasion into our government offices right now. okay? we have that woman out of minnesota. now she is going into congress and she has to wear a hat covering. >> if i were black people today and i -- one of those statues, i'd be so proud. >> there was never any evidence shown for a panic on plane. i'm not gonna dive into the 9/11 conspiracy. >> she's not going to go into the 9/11 conspiracy. those are just some of the offensive and completely unhinged things we've heard from congresswoman marjorie taylor greene. the new york times has new details about her, quote, ironclad bond with new speaker, kevin mccarthy. is what mccarthy reportedly told a friend just days af

miles teller also here, former chief of staff at the former department of homeland security and barbara mcquade is also back, a former u.s. attorney, now law professor at the university of michigan. also an msnbc contributor. kyle, we've relied on your reporting as these batches of transcripts and sort of the raw evidence has been released in a frantic push by the committee. take us through what for you are the highlights. >> sure. i mean, this whole batch of evidence i would argue is probably the most significant thing they've released so far. as you said, it's the raw underlying material that they used to craft their report. we've been reading transcripts for days now. but all of that is people's foggy memories of things that happened almost two years ago or more. this is the contemporaneous evidence, what people were thinking at the time, the conversations they were having with trump, about trump, around trump, on the way to january 6th. and so you have things like dan scavino, his social media aide telling someone several weeks after january 6th. by the way, he writes all of his own tweets.

. >> barbara mcquade thanks for joining us tonight, last time we did this show, as when we got the report, and i was sitting here know nothing about, it because even and you are looking down, and reading whether the other was speaking, and guiding us through the most dramatic hour, of having it in our possession. i said that would still be covering it in january, when i wasn't aware, of's days so we really see material, right up until today, and so covering it is the actual news of the day. so the point we are just a disgusting, with donald trump going to the capital, we see in the latest massive evidence released, that there is electronic evidence involved in the communication, and testimony about the fact that this was being planned as early as january 2nd, donald trump going to the capitol on january six, that there's evidence of a minimum of four days of premeditation, of going to the capital, how will that affects the way prosecutors look at what was happening on january 6th with donald trump? >> well, i think one thing to keep in mind, is unlike the committee that was really trying

flamingo, modest attorney into cobb county, which is right next to fulton county, in georgia, and barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan, and a professor at the university of michigan law school. great to see you both. thank you for joining me. gwen, let me start with you. just in terms of the things we learned today, sending the report itself inside, and when that may or may not become public, the word dangerous, we've got really stuck on that when we were discussing this as we came to air with the story. why do you think the d. a.'s office is characterizing a potential release of the report as dangerous. what does that say to you? >> i could surmise she has witnesses at this point she's trying to protect, not just defendants whose rights she's also trying to protect. she wants to ensure that, as possible witnesses are named in the report, that they would be available and healthy for trial. so, that is, obviously, any prosecutors number one concern, ensuring that the case can proceed with the relevant facts, and you need to have your appropriate witnesses to b

attorney barbara mcquade. priscilla, there have been updates since we learned that that sixth officer was relieved of duty yesterday, now a seventh as well. bring us up to the latest. >> reporter: yeah, andrea. lots of new developments here. i will start with the emts. there were two emts and one lieutenant from the memphis fire department that responded to this scene. they were placed on leave earlier this month. in the days after that video has been released, they have been officially fired. what the fire department says is that those emts responded to a scene where they were told that someone had been pepper sprayed and that they didn't conduct a proper patient assessment when they got there. some of what you see in this video is at one point two emts walking away from tyre nichols as he is on the ground rolling around, clearly in distress. the fire department says that that -- what happened, what they saw happen and what their investigation found was a violation of those department policies. so now those t

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now barbara mcquade, maya wiley, thank you both. that is all in for this week. alex wagner tonight starts right now. good evening, alex. good evening, alex you have aren't you have on the weekend, my friend. -- thanks to all of you at home. one of the biggest news stories of the century with the january 6th attack on our and capitol the congressional investigation that followed. there were ten public hearings in which the committee presented damning evidence showing that former president trump not only riled up the crowd, within sat back and watched as a violent crowd try to steal an election. it was dramatic. and it was reveler tory. and it was hugely compelling. but we now know, thanks to polling conducted by monmouth university, that those january 6th hearings did not shift public opinion at all. about the same number of people would call it a riot. about the same number of people would call it legitimate protest. in every way, the monmouth poll, the members were basically the same, before and after the january 6th hearings. now there are a lot of reasons why

joining me now is the reporter of that guardian story, hugo lowell, and barbara mcquade, former u.s.sor at the university of michigan law school, and msnbc legal analyst. hugo, i'm going to start with you, to get your reporting on what more, what further documents were found? >> yeah, this was back in december of last year. the justice department had wanted trump's team to go back and see if there were any more outstanding documents remaining because they suspected there were. low and behold, they found two more classified documents which trump returned back to the government. but it speaks to a pattern of obstructive behavior, that's what the justice department thinks with respect to trump. what has been happening behind closed doors over at the d.c. courthouse is at every turn now, the justice department is bringing all these cases to the chief judge and saying, look, we need judicial intervention at every turn because we don't trust trump's lawyers anymore. we now for a second time have had more classified documents emerge. we need to know the names and identities of the people wh

. >> frank fouzi, barbara mcquade, thanks for being here tonight.n we come back, from scalded's in the principles office to smiles, fist bumps, and hugging it out. we'll look at the evolution of kevin mccarthy and marjorie taylor greene's newfound friendship. and find out if they can pull the republican party further right or possibly impact. when the 11th hour continues. ur continues we will work with you every step of the way to help you achieve it. so let us focus on the how. just tell us - what's your why? before treating your chronic migraine— 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more you're not the only one with questions about botox®. botox® prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine before they even start—with about 10 minutes of treatment once every 3 months. so, ask your doctor if botox® is right for you, and if a sample is available. effects of botox® may spread hours to weeks after injection causing serious symptoms. alert your doctor right away, as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or

attorney, barbara mcquade, an msnbc legal analyst. what do you make of this new information? >> i see it as a good news, bad news situation, for those seeking to hold the former president and his allies accountable. they're looking into who paid legal fees for trump campaign officials which could be very interesting in light of what we learned from cassidy hutchinson. they're asking questions about communications regarding the dominion and smartmatic voting machines, which could suggest looking for evidence to prove a conspiracy. if they're saying one thing publicly knowing it's false, that could be fraud. and organizations that were fundraising off the stop the steal, they may be looking into what zoe lofgren referred to as the big ripoff. only now are they asking for these documents? it seems there's quite a bit of investigation left to go if they're just now requesting the documents because then they have to review them, analyze them, and interview or call to the grand jury the witnesses that that he could be asking questions about those things. so it makes it appear to me

and also joining us, ben wittes and barbara mcquade is here and she's also an msnbc contributor and formerrtment national security division we have many questions for, mary mccord is nice tough to be here today. charlie savage, take me through the reporting. >> well thanks for highlighting it. we spent a long time, the three of us, trying to put this thing together and pierce through a large amount of fog. it was a major project and so i appreciate this attention. we basically set out to investigate the investigation of the investigation if you will. and a lot of it was still on the durham investigation already based on the two failed prosecutions that he brought and all of the -- you referred to it, all of the fox news narrative that came off of his court filings and insinuations, none of which proved what he was assigned to do which was to prove a deep state conspiracy against trump and rewrite the narrative of the russian investigation so that trump was the victim in the public mind. but we found a lot of new things. as the story is too long and textured to go through all of them but th