and barbara mcquaid, former federal prosecutor. professor of law at the university of michigan and msnbc legal contributor. and john heilman, here is the watergate echo. it turns out the people who can do the most damage to the president work in the white house. that was absolutely true in watergate. it was not the democrats whose office got broken into who took down president nixon. >> it's always the case, right? and it's the case because they are the closest. they are the ones who are writing things down. even the ones in this chaotic white house, a white house that breaks so many norms. there are a bunch of teem like don mcgahn and others like reince priebus who thought we're supposed to be doing th the way other people did it. we don't really know what that is. but things like timelines and things like paying attention to some basic rules of procedure -- the way in which you're supposed to do stuff in the white house governed their thinking enough that it could be the thing that ends up undoing the president on this front. >>

joining me now, barbara mcquaid from the u.s. attorney and eastern district. whatever you say goes. see you, barbara. thank you for being here. i just wanted to see how you sum up the events of the past week. what do we know now that we didn't this time last week? >> well, i think the manafort verdict was something that was long coming, so i don't know that was -- it was important but i don't know if that was as significant as the guilty plea of michael cohen. that was a significant event because not only did he plead guilty to his own crimes, but he said under oath that he was directed by the candidate, which we all know was donald trump. then to give immunity to david pecker of the "national enquirer" and then the trump organization said there was something of scrutiny going on perhaps at the trump organization that could be very significant as that plays out. >> so how have all of that combined, how have all of those things moved the ball forward? what do you think is next? >> well, it seems that in the southern district of new york they have some focus on where they're going. the

joining us now is the supreme court reporter for the "new york times" and barbara mcquaid, former u.sey for the eastern district of michigan. thank you for being with us on a friday night. adam, let me ask you about the gravity of what happened this week because for those of us who are in it all the time it does feel like something different happened, something about the way we have to look at and refer to and treat this presidency. >> we've crossed a significant step here. the president's former lawyer said the president directed him to commit campaign finance violations in order to influence and election to say nothing of the fact of the affairs with playboy models and porn stars. it's an extraordinary thing to have your lawyer say that and there is next step it would be an indictment of the client. >> the legal liability faced by the president widened. the legal liability of the president is no longer an abstraction. that's meant some people are openly talking about impeachment but let's put that aside. how do you view the fact the president can't continue to push away the idea tha

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joining me from outside the alexandria courthouse, ken dilanian and barbara mcquaid, a former u.s. attorney. barbara, from inside the courtroom, tell us what happened today. we know the judge here is taking a very prominent role in denying those prosecution requests to show the photos of whatever an ostrich vest looks like, and other luxuries that are part of their bank and tax evasion case. >> yes, yesterday the government seemed surprised that the judge would not allow evidence or photographs of some of the expenditures that paul manafort made, an important part of the case to show he's living beyond his declared income, things like luxury vehicles and homes all over the country. he allowed the amounts of money but not photographs of these items. overnight, the government filed a brief setting out the case law that shows it is generally accepted that this evidence comes in because the government has the burden of proving there was this unexplained income and that paul manafort news about--t knew about it. nonetheless, the judge continued down that same path today, he said he's all

barbara mcquaid, also in court today, and chuck rosenberg, former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of virginia and a former senior fbi official. first of all, josh just reported that russia was front and center in some of the testimony from gates today. the trump campaign piece, the inaugural piece, everything that happened afterwards. until the point when he left the side of paul manafort. the judge was being a little bit difficult about how much detail he would be allowed to get into. when they were working in ukraine, they were working with the oligarchs. they were making enormous contributions, much more than we see in this country. they were expected to get huge parts of the country. someone was going to control the energy sector. so the stakes are very high for people involved in political operations. so that's why paul manafort was receiving so much money which he then stored in the bank accounts. so you wonder about the influence. that he may have imported the practice or to what extent they're seeking the same thing in this country. >> pin

this one of those rare case where is the jury should have been sequestered in joining us now is barbara mcquaid, barbe, thank you so much, it's nice to see you. >> oh, my pleasure to be here. nice to see you. >> i believe, and again, i don't know the things. it's my impression that it's a rare thing for a jury to be sequestered but judges do order it when there's a high profile case or the jurors have a particularly high risk that they will not be able to avoid media exposure or pressure on their to he poe verdict, is that true? >> it's rare that a jury is sequestered. i have not seen it in federal court, but i've seen it in the state high profile cases. the bill cosby, and o.j. simpson, there's a few where there's high profile cases. but one difference between state court and federal court proceedings, they are not televised, you are not going to see television tofootage of the trial, it's expensive and the other reason, you do not want to punishes pressu-- you don't wan put pressure on juries to want to get home. so, aside from that, the expense. i have never seen it done in federal court. >>

joining us now, barbara mcquaid thank you so much. nice to see you. >> my pleasure to see you. >> it is my impression as i rare thing for a jury to be sequestered but judges do sometimes order it, and particularly high profile cases or when there's a particularly high prediction jurors under normal circumstances won't be able to have avoid media exposure or pressure on their verdict. is that basically true? >> yeah. it is very rare that a jury would be sequestered. i've never seen in it federal court. i know it has happened in some high profile cases. i think the bill cosby case was one, o.j. simpson, casey anthony, george zimmerman. so a few high profile cases. but i know one difference is that they're not televised. so you're not likely to see television coverage. so another reason is you dome want to put pressure on jurors to get done and get on with their lives and sequestration to cause them to be hasty in their decision. aside from that, expense. i've never seen it done in federal court. >> in terms of the president's remarks in

joining me now, barbara mcquaid, a former u.s. attorney in michigan. also an msnbc legal contributor and covering the trial in alexandria. thanks for being with us. we're expected to hear more from the accountant, perhaps cross-examination of the accountant who was a very damaging witness, by many accounts, on friday. that said, what do we expect next if rick gates does take the stand? >> if rick gates takes the stand, i think we can expect him to confirm some of the things that have already been put into evidence. he assisted paul manafort in his conspiracy. he's pleaded guilty to conspiracy. that they were in on it together. that they had offshore bank accounts they were using to hide their income and they submitted false documents to banks in support of loans when that business dried up. i think that we'll see some cross-examination of rick gates because he has some baggage as someone who is, as you've said, pleaded guilty to a crime and admitted to lying to the government. >> and the other issue will be whether gates as a cooperator with the govern

attorney and arlington correspondent barbara mcquaid. attending the trial in the courthouse. andy, let me start with you, i am going to read from your dispatch. on the fourth day of paul manafort's trial, invoices and photos attesting to the luxurious life-style of president trump's former campaign chairman were replaced by talk of k-1 forms and gross receipts, schedule bs and schedule es. the ostrich jacket and silk suits were gone. what have we learned? >> we learned that paul manafort and rick gates engaged in what seems like shady if not illegal behavior with their accountant to deal with essentially the collapse of their business. the thing to remember is they were living this life-style when the money was coming in, when they were working in ukraine. then when that fell apart, their business imploded. that's what led to the schedule bs and es and this fraud as td prosecutors laid out and as we saw for the first time friday. >> barbara, you were in the courtroom. i want to ask about the dynamic between the prosecutor and judge. in p

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attorney and msnbc contributor barbara mcquaid, former cia officer david price and msnbc national security and justice reporter julia ainsley. great to have you with us. let's start with the trump tower meeting. the president's lawyers had this to say. >> you have to look at the totality. when you look at a meeting, george, that took place in a year before the -- now two years ago, the question is what law statute or rule or regulation has been violated? nobody pointed to one. >> robert, help us answer jay's question there. what law was potentially violated by this meeting which the president now admits was in fact to get dirt on his opponent? >> i can point to one. there is a campaign finance law that says can you not accept or solicit thang solicit a thing of value from a foreign national with relation to an election. we want americans to decide who becomes office holders in america and not foreigners who can have foreign influence. so that is one very easy crime that could be violated as a result of that. i also think that this tweet suggests an obstruction of justice. with he have peop

attorney barbara mcquaid has been sitting in on the manafort trial for msnbc here.ad something interesting to say, as to why she thinks this may be going on for four days. i want you to listen, and then i want your perspective on it. >> i think that the time they saved in the trial, they may be giving back in the deliberations, as the jury now needs to go and pull out all those documents and look at them, see how they match up. one of the questions they have asked is whether they could have some sort of key or chart, showing them which exhibits match up with which counts or which witnesses. the judge said no. they're doing that work themselves. i think in a case with more than 400 exhibits, it could take them some time. >> matches up with your take it seems. >> i think yoher opinion was brilliant, hallie. absolutely. as a prosecutor, i want to present my demonstrative evidence in front of the jury. not have them guess. i agree with ms. mcquaid, that this is exactly what it is they're doing. it is unfortunate they were put in that position. >> i want to ask about som

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. >> barbara mcquaid, you've spent a lot of time in the courtroom. paul manafort has been found guilty of counts one through five, all tax fraud. what do you make of that? >> reporter: that's not surprising. to me that was the strongest evidence in the case. there was evidence that he controlled these bank accounts that were in cyprus, used them to buy goods, luxury goods, real estate for himself and the amount he declared did not reflect all of that income, which he earned in ukraine. so that was probably the strongest evidence in the case. not a surprise on those. those should bring with them some substantial penalties. and so i think that it is a victory for the mueller team. >> joyce vance, let me ask you the same question. paul manafort, the president's one-time campaign chairman, has been found guilty by a jury in alexandria, virginia, of five counts of tax fraud. what do you make of that and do you agree with barbara those were the strongest charges? and also this is something that people understand, everybody pays taxes. maybe that was one of

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attorney barbara mcquaid.ory, senior reporter at vanity fair emily jane fox and donny deutsch who both spoke at length with cohen late yesterday. for the political implications, former aide to the george w. bush white house, elyse jordan, is with us. and a nbc capitol hill correspondent and host of kasie d.c., kasie hunt. >> and also jon meacham says he has brushed up on his nixon for us this morning. but honestly, jon, i do not think there is a parallel. we'll get to that. we'll see what you come up with. its of a legal landslide like none over in the history of the presidency. what the conservative drudge report described as trump hell hour. his 2016 campaign chief paul manafort convicted by a jury on eight counts at almost the exact same time that trump's former lawyer michael cohen entered a guilty plea to eight counts. and speaking in open court directly implicated the president in a federal crime. this is the worst day of donald trump's presidency both personally and professionally. trump's legal team re

attorney and msnbc contributor, barbara mcquaid and nbc news intelligence and national security reporterlet me start with you. the vibe, the atmosphere in the courtroom as you had these two men who worked closely together for so many years one turning on the other. >> there was daefl buzz in the courtroom when the government called rick gates to come in. he seemed visibly nervous. he spoke very quickly. he did not make eye contact with paul manafort as you said. there were several side bars during his testimony and he was sort of just sit awkwardly and look straight ahead. paul manafort looked directly at rick gates. during the testimony it came out their dynamic was different than i had appreciated before. he described it as very much an employer-employee relationship. rick gates had met paul manafort when he was an intern and said they never socialized together the only time he went to paul manafort's house was when he reported there to do work for him. tension between. but he's getting his story out. >> did the prosecution get what they wanted out of rick gates. did he present stories