i am barbara s -- i am barbara sadr, -- sutter. i noticed there was not the supporting documents on file, so i brought my supporting documents with me for you. there are two letters. one of the letters is a 1990 letter written by rec and park to peach growers, which put an agreement in place for us to be able to swim at camp mather for a separate fee for the full summer. as far as i know, it is still in effect, because we never got anything to fill us in differently than that. the other letter is the letter i wrote back in september to mr. ginsburg. it is asking for this an agreement that was done in 1990. some of the cabins -- it was treated like it was a donation, and that was fine until last year. all of a sudden, they wanted us to do a day use fee, which is $13 a day, at least it was last year. that equals a $91 a week for one person. for a total of 27 hours, that is all the pool is open during one week. that is just way too high for some families. for two people, it is $182 per week. if you have a family, children, i mean, it