. >> on my list now, i have michael gordon and barbara slaton. i will get to that in just a moment. >> i'm going to ask a question very similar to robs, but let me pursue it a bit more deeply. what are the specific things you have to have in the way of automatic payments or relative independence, autonomy, whatever you want to call it from baghdad in order to stay -- what do you think you could sell to the people of kurdistan to allow you to stay inside iraq? where are the red lines that would force you out? >> we are not going back to the old situation. going back before the ninth of june, that is impossible. it was difficult to have a common path with baghdad. they were getting everything they were not implementing the constitution. they were violating the constitution. so that peace, we cannot go back. second, is the islamic state between us and i dad, we cannot reach baghdad. we don't have a border anymore. when they are coming nowadays, they are flying. it is as if we are going to another country. if baghdad wants us to stay, they must recog