and that is that barbara bush andan nancy reagan, your two subjects, didn't have -- susan, maybe the close relationship? >> yes. >> i didn't have a lot in common that both went to smith college. but one thing was that they were married to people who were optimistic, you know, like to make friends, like to see the best in people. in this case those two women if they walk into a room, i think i would say this for both of them, if there were some in '18 respecter didac not have george h.w. bush is this interest at heart, you know, barbara bush just had a sensor for sensing the person in the room that that person was a danger or needed some work and i think nancy reagan did, , too. does that sound right to all of you? >> yes. i mean, i think barbara bush was more likely to remember an offense, and exact a price compares george h.w. bush was more likely due toh forget abot our just to forget. do you think that's true? >> absolutely. my grandmother doesn't had a long-term memory. i have the scars to show it. and that applies to politics where it would be a a discussin and she would say that's so-and-so did cross you back in texas. she was usually the first to jump in on pr