here at the big table is our brexit expert, alex forrest whiting, and in london, barbara wesel. we know parliaments as they do not want a no-deal brexit, yet the prime minister says that is probably what you are going to get.

we want to take this story now to our correspondents, barbara wesel in london and max hofmann in strasbourg. barbara, any first reactions from london after what appears to be a second disastrous defeat for freeman? barbara: everybody who was concncerned was i in the house d there went big cheer up here in the street behind me where the pro-european demonstrators, protestors against brexit, congregated on days like this. they are happy about it. others are deeplply unhapappy at it. the e.r.g., the european research group, group of the hard-line brexiteers who see they may be losing control of brexit because what we have seen, brent, is r really ththera may finally completely losing control of this process. she pushed and pushed this thing. she ran down the clock, she kicked the can down the road. she's now really run out of road and things will now sort of become even more chaotic because you cannot say what will happen next. there will be new votes tomorrow and maybe on thursday and theresa may has even sort of opened up voting. she does not keep people to the discipline of the party discip

here at the big table is our brexit expert, alex forrest whiting, and in london, barbara wesel. know parliaments as they do not want a no-deal brexit, yet the prime minister says that is probably what you are going to get. barbara: i mean, this was one of those chaotic evenings in politics that i have ever watched and observed. teresa may in the end, ripped against her own motion because she did not want to validate an early amendment which would take no deal off the amendment which was stronger in its outline. she even voted against her own motion and in the end, because some conservative mp's and even a government minister did not want to lay this game -- play this game, the motion went through. that is the oddest and weirdest piece of acting a government could come up with. now what happens now is she says, ok, we need a short technical extension in order to pass the deal the one that just last night had another devastating defeat in the house of parliament. she more or less threatened to have a third vote on this deal or she says we need a longer extension, we need to partic

barbara wesel on the story. thank you.or more, i'm joined if the big table by derek, the berlin correspondent for the irish times. good to have you. so, what do you make of the possibility that next week the parliament is going to be asked a third time to vote on the brexit plan that it already rejected twice? >> it's a reminder of those horror films, the monster is not quite dead. the brexit monster is coming at us for a third time. theresa may is hoping that actually things, the --sequel she's hoping the quality of the vote will go in her favor. but the numbers opposed are drop ping. they said, we are not reopening the deal. it is up to finding a legal way to bring some of the doubters o nside. -- on side. the people in northern ireland who have really imposed anything that would cut them off from the rest of the u.k. i think the hard brexiteers in london they do not want any of this. but maybe the northern irish can be brought on side. theresa may can say, look we are getting there. it is very slow but we are getting th