archaeologist warren barbour is trying to figure out why.barbour: figurines were found primarily in refuse, i think, for a number of possible reasons. first, they may have lost their sanctity and they had to be constantly replaced, so you just tossed them out. if they were used for a particular ritual, on a particular fiesta of a particular month, and then you'd -- sort of a planned obsolescence where they'd have to be replaced constantly. secondly, they may have been purposely broken. some of my colleagues believe that these were used and then purposely broken. and the other possibility, which sometimes i grip the bed at night thinking about, is that perhaps some of these are just toys and may have been -- um.person-handled by kids to the point that they break very easily. keach: barbour has discovered that many of the fragments were actually the parts of marionettes. their arms and legs would have been attached by string. large figures are called "hosts" because the body always contains one or more "guests" inside. archaeologists think tha

joining us to talk about these stories and more is haley barbour.group. and governor, it's great to have you here today. >> thank you, becky, glad to be back. >> what do you think, you shake your head, scratch your head? >> well, for governors who get paid to do things, you know, it really is concerning that washington's just constipated. there's nothing else you can say about it. the president doesn't lead, the republicans, i thought, really did themselves a lot of damage. the democrats are not interested in working together. i mean, there's nothing to recommend it right now, except for republicans, the real shame of it was for three weeks, we kept obama -- care off the headlines. >> that's what baffles me. >> you have leaders of the tea party movement that don't see eye to eye with the traditional establishment of the republican party. how does that get resolved? >> well, i'll tell you a little bit of a tweak on that. they don't disagree on policy. if you take the average regular republican take 20 issues, they'll be the same on 18, 19 issues, on

. >> arizona democrat ron barbour voted for the upton bill told politico that it's a huge bill, over00 pages. there will be unintended consequences. there are going to be things that don't work. i'm about fixing things that don't work. before the vote, some republicans predicted the bill would pass with bipartisan support. >> the democrats recognize that the president made a promise, he needs to keep that promise. he needs to keep the commitment, listen to the miles per hour people. deliver on that promise. >> but one democrat who did not support the upton bill says the majority of the members of his party stayed with the president. and democratic leadership. >> this means that fewer than 10% of house democrat, 20% of the house democrats didn't stand together. >> the obama administration indicated that the president would likely veto the upton bill, if it were to get through the democratically controlled senate. because the upton bill allows insurance companies to sell plans that don't meet obamacare standards to people who do not have the plans previously. uma? >> molly, thank you v

warren barbour has studied these compounds since 1962. this is the central patio of the apartment compound, called sequala, which is a typical apartment compound at teotihuacan. it's about half a football field on the side. it contains a central patio, a temple on the east side, and four apartments. to get the picture of this, you have to see elaborate paintings on the lower sections of the walls... the upper walls painted like wallpaper in reds and whites and greens. the pillars would go up to roofs with wood and covered porticoes, where children would be sitting and playing a game like parchesi. you would see dogs walking around, food being cooked, baskets in corners, stacks of grain. this would have been the center of life in the compound. and you have to remember that this would be repeated 2,000 times in other apartment compounds throughout teotihuacan. keach: in many ways, teotihuacan was a dramatic step forward in the evolution of ever more complex societies. it was the beginning of a cosmopolitan, urban way of life. the city's fam

. >>> mississippi governor hailey barbour joins us. niles to see you, sir. >> thank you, greta. >> insurance companies to blame for this debacle? >> well, of course what insurance companies are told by the federal government your policies that you have been writing don't qualify and therefore they don't count towards requiring the coverage that american people have. how you can say it's their fault. >> they didn't like single pair. this would have iced any deal whatsoever. don't they share some the blame. >> well, of course, a lot of people who were opposed to obama care were not happy that a lot of the insurance agency did go along with this. and just a reminder never pay the can bells to eat you last. because when the insurance lobby tried to cut a deal, they really got it in the throat. and now it's hurting more it's hurting their customers. all this about the online and in pinner. people lose their insurance. then they have to cost more. has huge deductibles that they can't see their doctor. i mean, if you are in new hampshire, abo

>> guest: i'm the poet laureate in the state of mississippi, the outgoing governor haley barbour selected me as the poet laureate. >> guest: is that a term position? >> guest: in mississippi east the lifetime position but with my term the previous poet laureate died and they decided to make a term position and is now four years. >> host: we can characterize authors like to give the brand as joyce carol oates or a novelist or historian. can you characterize pellets the same way? >> guest: plenty of poets write in other genres. you might also call me a nonfiction writer because i have a book of nonfiction but i am thinking about something my southern predecessor said and that is the historical cynicism, the poetic sense shouldn't be seen as contradictory because if poetry is the little myths that we make, then history is the big myths that we live and in our living constantly remake and so for me that suggests there are lots of links between the different genres 11 though we may call someone a poet or non paula, i feel i am someone for whom the historical sense always animates the work that