the police let me because i was baretta. why did he make me stay in there? i say so. now what happens? barbara walters, to a miracle, caught in that jail and it her interview. i could talk to you for 12 hours about an issue, how got caught her -- her into the jail. she went in and did the interview. it was on the air. the next day i was on the ankle bracelet. he took one look and said he is going to die and i don't want to be his executioner. cops't mind doing what he want me to do. he let me out the next day. the next day i was on the ankle bracelet. if that is in god, tell me what. of course i wanted to die. i did not care. >> in retrospect, what would you say to me? >> there is no retrospect. tavis: how would you describe this part of your life, your time in jail, on the ankle bracelet, the criminal trial, how has this impacted your life? how have you navigate your way through it? >> i do not believe i have navigated myself through anything. if stress was going to kill me, i would have never gotten out of the womb. i am 78 years old. i am not supposed to eat red me