the auction experience and sun in the past that was an area where you would see settled into options bari said the contract didn't expire in the money but of course you know of late that that's been blown out the water i just think that the evidence overall is overwhelming and i would say to you that. you know what we've got is the london gold pull that was around in the one nine hundred sixty s. different was them they were selling real physical into the market you know it still exists it's just a sort of tissues a version of the same thing that existed all along which is a managed retreat of physical metal against paper currencies and i think really you know it's it's now accepted by an increasing amount souls knowledgeable commentate this is going on i don't think it's hit the public yet because they you know the public is still learning about the true nature of money and what it used to be and what it will be again ok talking about the churn nature of money ben bernanke in his recent statement is talking about interest rates remaining at effectively zero through twenty fourteen and be