president barkin, good to have you. thanks for phoning in. >> thank you for having me >> so, wanted to pick up on those comments sounds like you just made this afternoon in a web cast in south carolina talking about the bottom is that what we think we're seeing >> well what i was seeing is we shut down the economy about seven weeks ago and you see a lot of states including south carolina at the gibrink of bringing people back it's not surprising you look to data as of today you'd see it about as low as it's going to go we'll bring in the like in the coming weeks and months. and i expect it to go up from here >> how long do you think the current level of stimulus, the current level government support programs can off set the negative impacts on the economy that we're seeing at the moment if things persisted at this for longer than you expected, how long before we'd have to see significant upping of stimulus or extension of government programs >> well, i do worry that -- when this was passed is that we would have what peo