they have dinner and varmints -- barmitzfas and that is what sums up the culture in many ways. >> said that is shifting from the misconceptions of what life is really liked, and in the book you mentioned about when you were in the city north of israel that he met with a neighbor and he was i guess standing in the rubble of the city hall or something. but what was his -- >> the people who had been in the shelters for almost a month were upset that the war ended when it did. they wanted it finished and they said we will live in the shelters for three months and this will be the end of it, but his feeling was they burned ten trees and we build 100. a day rebuild and prepare for the next time because some day we are going to be the gateway to israel and the lebanese will come and we will have dinner together. we want to be the gateway to the north. he was all about building and rebuilding and planting. trees are a very big deal in israel. it's the only country in the world that has more trees at the turn of the 21st century than at the beginning of the 20th century. everybody plants trees