. >> well, we know for a fact due to the barnett formula, which is obviously the formula that's used at come from england into wales, that for every £1.20, sorry , £1 was spent in england sorry, £1 was spent in england on, on barnett consequentials, wales gets £1.20 for health. but yet the welsh government only spend £1 five of that. and so the welsh government are already getting a considerable uplift in the nhs budget . and you have to the nhs budget. and you have to have independent businesses to create the taxation revenue and the employment opportunity cities to create a prosperous economy. don't forget there's no such thing as government money. it comes from you, me and the many businesses and individuals that make up a country. and one thing that labour have been automatically poor at is creating new businesses, new start—ups and new opportunities. and so this is a retrograde step that will greatly impact on independent businesses here in wales. and as i said, a pub in the cheshire side of the border would be paying £6,000 less as opposed to a pub in wrexham. because of these c