point and given us a general context to discuss. this, how it all affects the wider world order, baroness ashton, i want. word to you, i remember very well how 10 years ago you traveled between brussels and kyiv, repeatedly maybe we don't remember or see well, but please turn on the microphone. do we have sound? looks like we're having a little technical issue here, maybe we'll sort it out a bit later, in the meantime i'll turn to mr. rivas, very good that you can. continue post-technical difficulties, your country paved the way that ukraine is looking for, since the late 80s, joining the european union, joining the euro-atlantic community, fortunately for estonia, for your country, it did not have to pay the price that ukraine is paying , as you can see. thanks for the question, i see a lot of similarities in terms of time, our time was more on our side because the soviet union was falling apart and we took advantage of that opportunity and we said very clearly that we are not a bridge between russia and the west. and to the western ones values, in ukraine, later there was a certain manifestati

can you hear us baroness ashton, what is your reaction to this? i agree with mr. baroza, this is the choice of the people of ukraine. and in europe, outside the borders, we all well remember that this is your choice, and we support you in this. and it is very important that i was there. an important part of our cooperation and i want to participate in it in the future in our cooperation for the sake of the future, but we must to ensure that, in the end, ukraine is protected, safe, with proper architecture, military and economic, which would provide a sense of guarantee of independence in the future, which means that there is... a lot needs to be done in europe to think about what needs to be done to do in support of this, well, of course, we must constantly communicate with ukraine, because we have to rebuild this country, make it big, strong, so that families return home, reunite, because this nation has sacrificed so much, suffered so much, it is necessary all that rebuild and return. thank you, i was told that mr. rampuy has joined us, can we see if mr. rampuy