baroness newlove.i, and unborn baby were stabbed to death by her boyfriend, who had schizophrenia. he admitted manslaughter with diminished responsibility, and was detained in a secure psychiatric hospital. and also with us, we have caroline fiennes, whose husband, james, was stabbed to death in april 2014 by a stranger with severe mental health issues. thank you forjoining us. baroness newlove, first, people will probably be quite shocked to hear that victims get treated in different ways. explain about that. victims of mental offenders that go into mental health institutions are different from prisoners, i call it a big and little peeved. they do not realise the support once the trial comes to an end is completely different. they get little entitlement is a victim of crime in the victims‘ code entitlements and by that, i mean that are different restricted level is and they have a 2—tier approach. restricted is where if they want to discharge or change anything, it goes through the ministry of justice