leon, the new skills minister baroness smith said she hadn't beenin baroness smith said she hadn't beenhe reasons is because tuition fees have not beenindex because tuition fees have not been index length, but there are a lot of families who can't afford the fees now. where do you find a solution to this? are reloading it on students or do we have to find a different way? t do we have to find a different wa ? ~ . do we have to find a different wa ? ~' ., ., ., ., ~' do we have to find a different wa ? ~' ., ., ., way? i think we have to look at the way the — way? i think we have to look at the way the university - way? i think we have to look at the way the university is - the way the university is structured because i think we're in a position where a number of universities have found a stick reputation, have amazing facilities and are incredibly expensive to run. we've got cities with multiple universities, and there could often be an option to provide better value to students to the taxpayer and others. we have to be conscience in the uk. 0ne be conscience in the uk. one thing we do

baroness smith read out from the same hymn sheet because they think this is popular.ery child but really, one every child matters and even if these 7% children actually matter and they should listen to it , but they should listen to it, but clearly they are not are multiple attempts over a period of time since october 2023, when this, this petition was launched, since then, we have been trying to reach out when they were not even in government to bridget phillipson, to sir keir starmer and but we have not been given any audience and all we are asking is now the consultation that has been created, the obr consultation that has been given just about a week of when they've all come back to office to, to be carried out and that should be fair and full, full assessment. and that's not going to happen as well. all we are asking for is meaningful, meaningful engagement. listen to what your own people are telling you that the numbers don't stack up. and by creating this perception , by creating this perception, making it popular and saying it is going to work for the state sc