the president of the european commission jose barrazo saying a new government will have to pay. he argued that if part of it would cease to become part of the e.u. they dismiss the reasoning behind his letter. >> he makes about a part of a country in ceasing to become part of that. there's no definition to that remark. i was struck on reading some advice about 12 months ago. and they plead the point in not document that there's provision for that provides for the scenario that pressing barrazo has cited in this part of the letter. >> on the one hand we have a considered letter from the president of the european community, commission. they didn't take legal advice. you are saying, no, no, we will be able to go. is that really a position that can be suck stained for a second single? >> yes, because i think the point at which the committee should be very interested in is the fact that there's no foundation and treaty for president. >> in a later session the committee heard from the secretary of state for scotland who strongly disagreed with him. i don't we have that there wasn't a