now in spite of all this the most the obama actually did in terms of directly campaigning for barrett is sending out a tweet last night and the tweet said it's election day in wisconsin tomorrow and i'm standing by tom barrett he'd make an outstanding governor. barack obama less than one hundred forty characters is apparently as far as he's willing to stand with labor in wisconsin so wisconsin democrats have complained that they received little support from across the nation compared to the pro walker group's financial muscle and it appears to be costing the milwaukee mayor to he's behind in the latest p.p.p. poll but only by three points but even with barrett expected to lose it's hard not to characterize this is a victory for popular protest considering how close it really is only two governors have been recalled in american history so this is a rare occurrence to even get recall efforts this far. now that's far the polling has shown that walker is likely to be the victor after today's vote we won't get the full results before show ends tonight so after more than a year of massive o

>> it's where both scott walker and tom barrett come from. this year scott walker seems to have forgotten that and is running against milwaukee. in 2008, the city of milwaukee produced 90,000 more votes than it did in 2010. just right there in the city and particularly on the north side of that city, if people turn out there, they can offset two-thirds of scott walker's winning margin in 2010 on one set of neighborhoods. >> did bill clinton's visit help? ruth, bill clinton coming. it was very strategically placed in north milwaukee. >> bill clinton, jesse jackson, al sharpton getting people to the polls. it's all about getting people out and remembering what this is all about. it's all about when i drove by my public school teachers and each one of them were holding up one letter of barrett's name. this is about us. this is about the people of wisconsin. not about projections. >> john, everywhere i go it's the teachers. >> teachers have always been respected in this state. my grandmother came up in blue river, wisconsin. she got her credentia

>> it's where both scott walker and tom barrett come from. this year scott walker seems to have forgotten that and is running against milwaukee. in 2008, the city of milwaukee produced 90,000 more votes than it did in 2010. just right there in the city and particularly on the north side of that city, if people turn out there, they can offset two-thirds of scott walker's winning margin in 2010 on one set of neighborhoods. >> did bill clinton's visit help? ruth, bill clinton coming. it was very strategically placed in north milwaukee. >> bill clinton, jesse jackson, al sharpton getting people to the polls. it's all about getting people out and remembering what this is all about. it's all about w family to get lean and healthy while you lose fat... with more than a hundred simpl o. that was considered one of the most honorable acts in our family. for the last couple of years we have a governor that have been telling us teachers are the problem. we know they're not the problem. they're the solution. >> the john doe investigation, has it played as

in 2010, tom barrett got more than 2,000 votes. i spoke with people all over wisconsin this weekend. democrats tell me they will knock on more than 1.2 million doors before it's open. the people assured me this is going to be a close one. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. i do want to know what you think. should the voters of wisconsin recall scott walker? text a for yes. text b for no. you can always go to our blog on ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring results later in the show. great to have kbroift with us. john, you first. the polls on the ground, the polls on tv and the media and the enthusiasm on the ground, don't seem to match up. >> you can't measure a recall. it's impossible. we've never had an election in the first week of june in wisconsin before. we've never had an election where you've had more money raised by one candidate, scott walker, in one quarter than any previous candidate has raised in the history of the state. everything is unprecedented here. there's no question if you look at the pattern of po

barrett raised about $4 million.close, i think you're going to see lots of democratic operatives who will sell this as a victory even if their candidate loses. if he does lose, i think if you see how well barack obama is polling in wisconsin, again, i think it would be a mistake to think even barrett's loss here is going to have too much blow back on the president. i think there are lots of reasons why people might oppose this recall and still support the president and still perhaps take issue with the governor's policies. i think dana made a good point. people want to be treated as such. and there might be some folk who is in this close election might be inclined to support the president and democrats. don't think this is an appropriate use of a recall process. >> hold on for a moment. stand by. we're going to continue this conversation. obviously a very, very close contest in wisconsin right now. the preliminary exit polls showing 50/50 tie in effect for scott walker the republican incumbent governor, tom barrett t

what is the view of mayor barrett's team? >> reporter: well i just talked to jim dean from democracy of america, john, and he also is cautiously optimistic so a lot of people cautiously optimistic because of the voter turnout numbers that they're getting from their people on the ground here. one thing in particular, they're very pleased with apparently they claim they're getting reports that more ballots were needed in a north milwaukee area where they are very strong, they're looking at that as a very positive indication, but i think everybody's biting both the fingernails and the toenails on both sides with three hours left to go here. >> cnn's ted rowlands at the democratic head quarters, we'll keep in touch with ted as well. it's a massive recall. >>> the wisconsin vote something being watched for its potential national implications and governors of both parties who want to see whether voters reward or punish governor walker for the bruising battles of his first two years. martin o'malley is maryland's governor and head o

what happens if tom barrett wins?s the legislature move this state and how does it unfold? >> when tom barrett wins, one of the things we have to look forward to is the opportunity to have a governor who believes in bringing people together, to work together, to solve problems and make sure we have a table that we can go to and talk even with individuals in the workplace. that's important. that's part of democracy. i believe we have that to look forward to. i think we also have something else to look forward to. solving the hard problems in wisconsin, dealing with education and dealing with the level of unemployment that exists around the state but especially in a city like milwaukee that has been forgotten for several years long before tom barrett was ever mayor. >> will the boots over the ground win out over the big money spent by republicans senator taylor? >> without a doubt. the boots on the ground, it's been exciting to see the amount of work that people are doing, the amount of people standing in line, the amou

and he owed it to tom barrett. barrett was the mayor of milwaukee. he came out in the primaries and endorsed then senator obama against senator clinton. he also owes it to himself and to everybody else he's going to have to deal with. this was a mistake. i have to say. the president should have been out there. i don't think it would have made the difference, okay? let me be clear about that. but it's kind of like thanksgiving at your in-laws. if you go, it doesn't guarantee it's going to be fun. if you don't go, there's going to be hell to pay. i know he loves his mother-in-law and she lives in the white house. but you know what i mean. >> keep them close. i'll leave it at that as we go. david gergen, if you look at the map, i don't think we're quite ready to do this yet. we want to look at more data. if we do move h.i.p. thypotheti wisconsin to a toss-up column. we'll study it more. then you have a narrow gap here. my question is if wisconsin is in play what we're seeing in the rust belt republicans proving they can get the key constituencies and do

campaigning for mayor barrett. barrett welcomed that. a big event. much do you think the obama campaign deploys it in the future? >> it will be interesting after today to see what the obama campaign does about the message of the tax cut. i think they depend -- jonah said they don't have good surrogates. bill clinton has credibility with the very few persuadable voters left. he presided over a time of prosperity that people remember fondly. they think he is knowledgeable and politically reasonable. they think he is smart. he remains too good an asset to reject. but he is a loose cannon. to put it mildly. >> ten seconds, charles. dangerous prospect? >> loose cannonbe, he is a double agent. what is the message? bill clin top says elect obama because at the end of a second term you might begin to be getting out of recession? i wouldn't run on that. >> bret: final thoughts when we return. thank you, panel. back in wisconsin in a bit. [ male announcer ] what's in your energy drink? ♪ wer surge, let it blow your mind. [ male announcer ] for fruits, veggies

it's not about tom barrett. it's about the citizens of our state and we have to come together whether you have a "d" or an "r" behind your name and work for all citizens in our state not just a select few. >> where does the state go from here? i mean, may does this do to your union? what does it do to public do downunions? unions in general? this is a realtor pee do in the water for unions? >> do tout it hurts us. but at the end of the day we look forward to the future and working in a state of compromise and this is not always been about unions. this is not been about one group. this is about the citizens of our state. i'm looking forward to electing barack obama as president of 2012. >> what happens, mahlon, as far as the messaging? what didn't go right for the democrats, the progressive movements in this state? with the john doe investigation and all of the thingsed th that taken place as far as the cuts if to education, what did the democrats miss? >> i don't think we missed anything. you're seeing a governo

mayor barrett has fallen short.t your first reaction. >> my first reaction is i listened to ed. money makes a huge difference. it was a sprint. it wasn't your traditional race. when you come in and you've got $50 million in a race that lasts four weeks. and keep in mind. scott walker was running ads against tom barrett before barrett was in the primary race so the money made a difference. i'll be curious to see what the final spread is on and what kind of message we should take away from that. >> in terms of the ground game, as they call it, one of the races i've been talking about this race and its importance, was the interweaving of the labor movement and its organizational capacity, in terms of getting out the vote, funding external big-dollar donations in campaigns. whether they're presidential-year campaigns or mid-term year campaigns. is there reason to worry about the democratic side to have the capacity to get out the vote in? >> i tried to make a point to a lot of people in wisconsin that governor walker ca

barrett, would you like to comment on that? >> i disagree. the 21st century media company today needs a dual revenue stream. for years the television industry operated with an advertising-only model. the cable industry was launched and helped us get our signal into rural areas, but then built a significant business on the back of the most popular programming available to americans in every community in this country and that was local television. i would say to you that we are using as an industry the retransmission consent fees to invest in our local businesses. it helps support the investment we made in digital technology which i mention multi billions of dollars over the last decade. i think you have seen most local stations m local stations go from producing 20 hours a week of programming to 40 hours a week of programming exclusively in the local news genre. we added multi cast channels on our signals now which are trying to get clearance on satellite and cable. so i would disagree with mr. ergan that money is not being used in a construct

then they obviously switch over to barrett's side.hey desperately did not want walker, and then they get crushed here. is there a lesson in that? or did they get outmuscled by the money? >> well, i guess i take issue with the idea that they were crushed. yes, there were some union household that is went to walker. this will suggest that this election will evolve around what the unions will do is not a to argue. but again, you look at the amount of money spent by walker and his forcers and how little of money spent by barrett. you look at the barrage of ads and the debater did not do very well, and he picked it up in the second debate. in terms of where barrett was a week ago seven or eight points down, and this thing has to finish close. i think democrats right now will be satisfied with a couple of things. it looks like they're going to pick up one of the state senate race. the state senate will go back into control and that will put a check on governor walker. secondly the numbers of obama beating romney, that has to be the silver l

i'm barrett.t is why i am running for governor. >> didn't crack the numbers of the walker ad, frank. >> it didn't. but it's the only one. there are so many of them and so contentious and negative you can see the division that happens behind me. >> sean: all right. frank luntz, listen, first of all, thanks to everybody there. this is a big election. if wisconsin can get their fiscal house in order so can the rest of country. thanks, even for people who disagree with me. thank them all for being with us. >> thank you, guys. >> sean: all right. coming up, you don't want to miss this. blockbuster. david limbaugh joins us in studio unveiling the newest book. called the great destroyer. encyclopedic book for the election. and there is an insult to marco rubio. you have won't believe it. and only a few short hours away, bill clinton doesn't agree with barack obama's passive approach to this critical race. dick morris is next with details on the battle between obamas and the clintons. straight ahead. [ ma

i don't think it helps barrett overall.hink the framing is middle class versus the billionaires trying to buy this election. we know they are trying to buy it. we have got them on tape trying to buy it with walker if i was president obama, i would say, hey, you know what? why don't we go down there and talk about these sons of bitches trying to buy your democracy. >> that's what a strong president does. i don't want people to go over obsessed as i am about the president's role. people of wisconsin are going to decide this. you have to make a stand. you have to make a stand and say they can't buy every election. they cant buy our government. they can't buy our democracy. >> that's the stand you have to make today in wisconsin. >> that's it on the issues, we will talk to you again at 10:00 o'clock as these results start to come in. thank you so much, michael. we will talk to you again as well later in tonight's programming. when we come back, breaking news about how one the top al-qaeda leaders has been killed. we will talk a

maybe barrett has a shot.ing along those lines, the independent numbers haven't been that much. let's look at another one. ideological breakdown, look at this, 47% call themselves moderate in 2008. much more of a conservative to the electorate in 2010. this is walker wants it to be closer to 10%. again, my guess is look for the number to be somewhere in between. now let's look at our next one here, young voters. look at this drop-off, that there's any place there was a huge turnout and drop-off, made up 22% of the electorate, folks under the age of 24. this maybe is as big of an issue as ever and this is where the president's team may or may not get blamed if if this number is more like 2010 than it is 2008. could he, himself, have made a difference in upping that number. let's look at the labor union vote, though. look at this, no change. same enthusiasm, made basically a one in four in 2008, one in four in 2010. is that number higher at some point tonight? i doubt it considering the consistency despite the i

it's about tom barrett who got the nomination.goes back to the money 6-to-1 at least. >> cenk: if they would have picked the guy who the unions are more in favor, do you think there would have been more of an upswell. >> there are so few people who are decided in this race, but in terms of get out the vote, it may have helped. when they see scott walker it doesn't matter who is running against them. they want this person to beat scott walker. >> cenk: russ feingold believes barrett is going to win because more people are motivated on the democratic side and voter turnout is critical. clinton seems to have done a very good job on friday although they're at a sunday razor tonight, but obama did nothing. is that, you know-- >> johnjohn bonjon bon jovi is having the fundraiser. barack obama did not take a stand when all those union protests were happening in the capitol. a lot of people are saying if obama comes in and it's a loss, it's bad for the president. i think wisconsin does not want him there as badly as he doesn't want to go.

so far, governor walker is 58% and mayor barrett has 41% of the vote.t knows wisconsin politics from the inside, minority leader bark is a supporter of milwaukee mayor tom barrett. always nice to see you. >> welcome back to your home, badger state here. glad to have you back. >> greta: so, what happened? >> well, i mean, first of all, i am not discounting the idea we could have a truman/dewy situation here. >> greta: okay? >> obviously, many of the votes are far from counted. i know in the city of racine, i talked to the mayor, they had over 70% turnout. unbelievable -- >> greta: is that a democratic neighborhood? >> democratic area. racine's very democratic. in the bryant center, they never have more than a thousand people vote, they had over 1,000 people at 5:15. i guess we will see, i know that the projections generally are right. i will acknowledge that. but i don't know. i am still waiting to see when the votes get counted. >> greta: we are waiting to hear from governor walker. he hasn't spoken yes. the state is so divided, politically. there anyth

now barrett is in striking distance. he is just three points behind overall, and barrett is head among independents. now it's about passion and getting folks out to the poll. >> this started at after grass roots movement and an integrity issue. scott walker had a surprise attack against workers right, and it is fitting that it will end the way it started, as a groo grass roots movement. >> joining me is ed schultz, thanks for joining me. >> good to be with you. >> what's the key for tomorrow's election, who has the passion you're feeling out there? >> i came into the state on saturday with a real open mind because the polls are what what they are, it is what it is, but you can't gauge it until you're on the ground and see it for yourself. the numbers look like this -- milwaukee county will be huge for barrett. he only got 37% of the voters in milwaukee came out in 2010, tom barrett got 62% of those. if he can get that turnout up to 50 or more percent, he stands a real good chance of winning this recall tomorrow here in w

it's a different story over at the barrett camp.eople are saying as long as votes are being counted they're not going to offer a concession. what we can conclude from that is that governor walker is probably not going to get a phone call from mayor barrett until they feel like enough votes have been counted. we've heard governor walker won't take the stage here until they feel enough of the counties are done getting their results in. bret? >> bret: okay z we'll bring you that speech live here on fox news channel when it happens. the lieutenant governor easily defeated professional firefighter michelle in the other big contest. margin similar to that in the governor's race. there are four state senate races we're watching to see here. so far, two have been called for the republicans. there are two others out there. there are other races we're keeping an eye on in new jersey. two democratic incumbents fighting for one seat. bill pascrell beats rothman and howard burman versus brad sherman in one race and another, laura richardson face

than about their perceptions of mayor barrett. the presidential race for republicans it's more of getting rid of barack obama. >> greta: if i'm correct, the candidate that mayor barrett beat, for the county secretary from madison had labor. labor wanted her, they didn't want the mayor. >> that was arguably wasted money. in an election in which you are being dramatically outspent by the other side and limited pool of funds, labor spent several million dollars for a candidate not on the ballot. >> greta: any thoughts, has there been statistical analysis on whether the collective bargaining statute put, it hasn't been put in very long, has it had any appreciable effect on the economy? budget and the state? >> it has had an effect on union membership. yes, different level of government in terms of what is spent on the contracts. it varies from community to community depending whether they signed the contracts or not. but it's still, you know, this is a pretty fresh issue that is being debated right up until election time. >> greta: an

it's a different story over at the barrett camp. people are saying as long as votes are being counted they're not going to offer a concession. what we can conclude from that is that governor walker is probably not going to get a phone call from mayor barrett until they feel like enough votes have been counted. we've heard governor walker won't take the stage here until they feel enough of the counties are done getting their results in. bret? >> bret: okay z we'll bring you that speech live here on fox news channel when it happens. the lieutenant governor easily defeated professional firefighter michelle in the other big contest. margin similar to that in the governor's race. there are four state senate races we're watching to see here. so far, two have been called for the republicans. there are two others out there. there are other races we're keeping an eye on in new jersey. two democratic incumbents fighting for one seat. bill pascrell beats rothman and howard burman versus brad sherman in one race and another, laura richardson fa

the governor made tom barrett angry. tom barrett didn't back down.e pushed on this issue in that debate. you could feel it in the room last night. i was there, the room was hushed when tom barrett was going after him. after that happened, that governor never really got his bearings back. it really gave the debate to tom barrett. >> there's a new report out showing that the john doe investigation was started because walker was stone walling investigators. here is walker's response from the debate last night. >> what the quote says is that the question of unwilling or unable. i mentioned when you first asked me about that that our office was unable to get information from an individual outside of our office who was a volunteer from a veteran's investigation. my chief of staff took that to the district attorney and we were continued to be in a position where we were unable to get that information. >> how does that answer play, you think? >> that was a deeply dishonest answer. the line in the story is that the district attorney's office decided their wer

barrett is terrible! barrett is horrible! we took seven of the ads and there were many more.s a minute of how much barrett was attacked. >> this two-year-old spent six days in intensive care after being intensively beaten. but tom barrett and his department did not consider it a violent crime. >> it raises the question of whether the crimes were misreported. if barrett is willing to cover up hundreds of crimes in milwaukee, what else is he hiding? >> a certain sentinel story categorizeing crimes as minor incidents to drive down crime rates. ♪ blame it on the rain ♪ i am not responsible. >> this makes the fifth homicide in just four days. >> isn't it time to end the civil war in wisconsin? >> night after night after night after night. >> forward. walker. >> backwards barrett. >> cenk: it's not theoretical but hypothetical. it's real. they see these ads and they sell them at 1.5-to-1 clips against barrett. then people go into the booth, a my god we don't want barrett? look at that two-year-old who was beaten, not barrett! that's how you lose an election. michael shure, politica