so -- justice barrett: -- physical force. mr.em: -- so let's say there was someone sleeping in a room and you lock them in the room and then they slowly expire. from our perspective, that would not involve a application of violent physical force, and you could say you used the locks, but you haven't actually used force against them. justice gorsuch: mr. -- justice barrett: well, what do you do with the fact that stokeling especially seems to measure force not from the front end, like force applied, but from the back end on what does the force -- what -- what is its result? it seems to me that for murder, necessarily, the result was pretty extreme. mr. kedem: so, respectfully, i -- i don't think stokeling takes that position. in fact, the whole discussion in stokeling was how much force do you need to apply, what's the amount of force, to overcome resistance, which, again, the court wasn't focused on whether the person was injured or not. it was can you do it just sort of by gently grabbing it, or does it need to be more -- more v

i'll start with you, general barrett. >> everything we're doing.ng back to how you characterized the world. everything is going to be about data. it is essential for understanding the environment, whether we're talking about foreign maligned influence and what's going on in -- what narrators are being put out that we might have to counter or be more resilient against to the cybersecurity piece. so being able to really manage that, from a talent standpoint or from a technology standpoint, the a.i., ml and everything else, that is going to be the crux of everything. for me, you know, it is the difference between somebody being able -- we do -- we've done incident response and i'm going to wrap this up quickly. the difference of our team coming in and with because you a competent workforce, they have control of their logs and everything else and then you have an opposite incident response where there is nothing there. those everything else. and then you have an opposite incident response where they walk in and there's nothing there. on those two state

barrett. barrett. barrett. barrett draws number 14. [applause] 14. bynum. bynum. bynum draws number 53. 53. 53. brosnan bresnahan draws 32. bresnahan draws 32. gill. gill. with the coffee. 29. 29. latimer. latimer. latimer. latimer draws 33. 33. 33. baumgardner baumgardner. baumgartner draws. number two. number two. then men. then men. --vindman draws 57. good lender -- goodlander draws number 10. dexter. dexter draws number 19. maclean delaney. maclean delaney. number 42. more -- moore of north carolina. 24. moore of west virginia, 50. whiteside. whiteside. 38. 38. 38. turner. of texas. turner. turner draws. number 30. 30. turner. figures. figures. what you think? what do you think? number nine. [applause] number nine. taylor. taylor. taylor draws number eight. mesmer. messmer. 22. 22. johnson. johnson of texas. number 11. [applause] but our check 44. ansari. number 12. [applause] number 12. friedman. friedman. fun. fun. 51. 51. 51. hernandez riviera. hernandez rivera. getting down to the water, number 45. -- down to the wire, number 45. a less -- downing. downin

barrett. barrett. barrett draws number 14. 14. bynum. bynum. bynum draws number 53. 53. 53. bresnehan draws 32. 32. gill. gill. 29. 29. 29. latimer. latimer. lattimore draws -- latimer draws 33. 33. baumgardner. baumgardner. baumgardner draws -- here we go -- number two. [applause] number two. vindman. vindman. vindman draws number 57. good lander. goodlander. number 10. dexter. dexter. number 19. mclean. number 42. number 42. moore of north carolina. 24. [applause] moore of west virginia. 50. moore of west virginia, 50. whiteside. whiteside. 38. turner of texas. turner draws. number 30. figures. number nine. number nine. taylor. taylor? taylor draws number eight. mesmer. mesmer. 22. 22. johnson. johnson of texas. number 11. fedorchek, 44. an -- ansari. ansari. here we go. number 12. number 12. number 12. friedman. friedman. 51. 51. hernandez rivera. number 45. 45. 45. peridopolis. peridopolis. it is 35. 35. downing. downing. 52. 52. biggs. biggs of south carolina. biggs. number 18. knott. knott. 40. 4-0, 40. manian. manyan draws 56. 56. evidence. evans of colorado. evans of

>> general barrett gives me her best.laughter] if you look across all the services, the cyber national mission force, we get the elite cyber with offensive and defensive members from all different surfaces. we are in a unique position where how do we use defense to inform offense? we say based on my time at the national security agency, it takes a thief to catch a thief. how do we inculcate the offensive mindset in our defenders? what we have been doing is a little bit of a prisoner exchange between our offensive operators and are defensive operators where we actually have on mission with offensive folks working with defenders have actually caught nation malicious cyber actors because we have been doing this cross-pollination. our basic operators, it is important that they know their trade. as you move up to the senior and master level, it is a different trade. let's look at my firewalls and boundary devices. you have to think about honey pot, tripwires. then you have to think about active pursuit. you have to have all th

more with barrett there in just a second.his shock poll coming from a well-respected pollster. >> she has picked up on last-minute trends before that no one else has seen. she saw that four years ago with trump doing surprisingly well. today ann seltzer out with one showing harris three points ahead of trump in a state trump won by almost ten points. >> this is not on the battleground list, it may not be this time around but could pick up on early trends. >> also it raises the possibility are there other states out there like this. >> steve kornacki, great to see you. we will talk in the days to come. >>> but it's this close, neither candidate can take their foot off the gas. both have been making multiple stops across the battleground states. garrett haake is trumping with the trump campaign in georgia. >> reporter: tonight dueling strategies from dueling campaigns in the race's closing weekend. a noticeably angry donald trump hammering kamala harris in central pennsylvania at his first of three planned rallies in three stat

again more recently in 2020 when justice ginsburg died and republicans rushed to confirm amy coney barrett to her seat shortly before they lost control of both the white house and the senate. so, now, we have three justices who are in their 70s and both democratic and republican activists speculated that it would be an opportune time for them to find other hobbies, rather than judging our nation's laws. and immediately, it was liberals who talked about justice sonja soda mayor the member of the liberal walk of the court, seven years old appointed by barack obama in 2009, so if she were to step aside in theory, the democrats, president biden, could nominate a successor, democratic senate could confirm her before they turn the senate er to republicans in january. similarly, republicans, knowing that they don't want that to happen to their ideological allies, what happened to the liberals when justice ginsburg died, they were looking at two of the elder conservatives on the court, justice clarence thomas, who was appointed in 1991 by president george hw bush. he is approaching the record ly f

and we need to provide. >> carley: thank you so, tom barrett. have great weekend.ave it there. ha"fox & friends" starts right

judge amy coney barrett. >> and have this grand announcement at the white house in the rose garden. that was kind of the event that we identified as where -- >> the super spreader. >> covid. >> my flashback memory of their extreme joy, their giddiness, almost, in the face of what they knew they would be able to accomplish. >> ending roe was a promise that candidate trade made during his presidential campaign in 2016. a promise to conservatives that, if they got behind him, he'd do something no other president had been able to do. >> i am pro life. and i will be appointing pro-life judges. >> a significant contrast to the position donald trump took decades earlier. >> i'm very pro choice. >> this is a businessman from new york, which is a pretty progressive city. he has always been more conservative than a lot of the people that he socialized with, but abortion was not one of those issues. one of the first things he did in 2011 when he was thinking about running for president that cycle and he went to go speak to c-pac, the conservative political action conference. >> i'm pro life. >

. >> you have interesting new reporting on the youngest justice amy coney barrett.ow is she being viewed by her colleagues ideologically? >> sure. when i talk about who has come on the court in recent decades, when you go back and look at her republicans have been able to staff this court, liberals have always been searching for a center and over the last 20 appointments the republican presidents got 15 of those in democrats only got five. so there has always been this quest for a center. that is what we see now with the three remaining liberals on the court trying to woo amy coney barrett and she has shown signs that she will engage with them on legal methods and doctrines in the three liberals i see are desperately trying to get some consensus into the census and one of the points i make is that while justice barrett has shown she will engage on legal methods in doctrine, that she usually, however, returns to the conservative fold and voted in the last session 90% of the time with chief justice roberts and brett kavanaugh. so at one point i would make overall is t

amy coney barrett offered them the best chance.ne, she's one member of the six justice conservative supermajority who never served in the top echelons of a republican administration. john roberts was in the reagan administration and h.w. bush administration. brett kavanaugh in the george wrnlgts w. bush administration. she's made gestures towards the center. they have hope in her and how much despite engaging with the left wing justices she sends up more with the justices on the right 90% of the time. voting with chief justice roberts and kavanaugh. hope springs eternal. never know where someone's going to go. right now so much attention on clarence thomas, who's 76 and sam alito 74 with people thinking will they leave now that drnt is onald trump is in office? not eager to leave but might be enough pressure to go while a like- minded republican is there in office. >> and speaking of that, he may have opportunities to reshape the court even more to his liking than he already has. how could that impact the direction that the court t

they showed him and 2 neighbors with barrett demo cells and the yacht local man helped me and said, i need to study it for a few moments. okay. let's do. did you bring in soldiers do that. when they were running away, the russians had entered the city, the ukrainians ran and killed everyone they came across and my husband was outside the apartment block entrance when they, you praying and soldiers came across here because they read over everything was bullets. now these weren't people killed has come actual for example, during the fighting by cross why these are people in basements with gunshot wounds . so they had people in, in their beds, uh elders as well as younger folks in their apartments on taj by explosives. uh, but by the executed shots to the back shots to the, to the had you in the book store, i went outside and i heard a ukrainian soldier shouting, everyone out of the house faced the wall and he stood up so that i could see him. i came out of the toilet and he started shooting at my wife. when i came back, i saw the completely burnt bodies of my family. i don't know, maybe

so all justice barrett i think a saying let's ask the question when it comes up.ut when you have speech inside the united united statesy and tradition is we do not express the speech because we don't like the ideas. if i could just -- >> just hypothetical. if the rationale for barring foreign ownership of a a media establishment is a concern about what that is going to produce vis-À-vis content and when a time of conflict with the foreign adversary, would you say that the u.s., there's definitely protester against, completely protected under the first amendment and some viewpoint would be one that american listeners might will have an interest in hearing a lot about. would you say in that situation because of clients like yours the american recipient, that a bar on foreign adversary ownership of a a media establishment during war is invalid? >> leaving the broadcasting question aside, definitely stripped the street he would apply and i can imagine particularized facts were strict scrutiny might be satisfied in heat of 40 been of what exact of the content of the sp

msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin and former federal prosecutor barrett berger.k us through what we are expecting any moment now. >> a number of things we are looking at, ana. first of all, what will d.a. brad and his office say and how they want to move forward or will there be another delay as we have seen time and again in this case. the other deadline that was postponed to today, is the deadline for judge merchan to decide how the ruling from the supreme court on immunity, might impact the case. does he toss it altogether for that reason, which is what trump's lawyers have been arguing. and if you take a step back, this is another one of the days for the trump team, where they are feeling pretty victorious when it comes to the legal battles that we have been covering for years now. the tactic of delay, delay, delay, that we talk about, early this year over the course of the summer, it is worse and now we are living in the reality where all of these cases, this conviction, the charges, and other criminal cases, the civil cases, none of that hasn't stuck and th

beauden barrett and codie taylor will make their return to action in the line—up and ardie savea willrsey. he's looking forward to meeting the legendary frenchman, too. we understand the threat he poses and how he is big key man for the french team, so hopefully we, with our defence and whatnot, have strategies to nullify that. but, you know, if we don't shunt up physically against the big french pack, we allow antoine dupont to run the show. so, hopefully we can nullify that but also understand and respect the class he has. some guys, you just can't stop, but we'll try our best on saturday. now, after his retirement from professional cycling, mark cavendish has been reflecting on his long career. he's been world champion on the road and the track — olympic silver — but it's his record in grand tours that sets him apart. this summer, he broke the tour de france record for stage wins with his 35th victory and he signed off from the sport last sunday at the age of 39, winning a one—day race in singapore. i love cycling. at the end of the day, i'm lucky, i'm very fortunate i got to do wh

england will face all three of the barrett brothers when new zealand come to twickenham on saturday afters named at fly half for the all blacks. meanwhile, there has been plenty of reaction from both england and new zealand to the controversy surrounding the haka after the england prop posted on social media this week that it should be binned. he has since apologised. our rugby correspondent reports. at the england camp here today, there is plenty of buildup and excitement towards the first match of the autumn nations series with england taking on new zealand. of course, there has been discussion around the team selection announced on tuesday, the big set piece battle and the tweaks in the laws that both players and fans have to get their heads around. despite that, the big topic has been that tweet and the haka. it's the first time we have been able to speak to the england captain on the topic and he is actually a big fan of the new zealand cultural challenge. it is something that i have a huge amount of respect for, i love the theatre it brings, i love the atmosphere that it generates,

promising to do that by providing great to subsidies by reducing the taxation on those a stable to barrett by reducing the value added tax by supervisor. that is that realistic though, sorry to jump in there is that realistic given the state of the economy right now? i personally don't think so knocked to the scale at which he has promised it. and so that's going to be a major challenge because apart from the whole question of corruption, which is one of the key suzy in the campaign. and you have to do something about corruption by putting a big push behind buys. in the 1st year of his government, the whole question is about the cost of living. and people making ends meet on a daily basis. as political analysts, microsoft, these are about, i'm going to thank you so much for all those insights. thank you. to india now and delhi as introduced, stricter anti pollution controls to come back a spike in toxic smog authorities in the capital have close all primary schools and ben non essential construction. after air pollution rose, which more than 50 times the safe limit recommended by the world

thank you very much. >> justice barrett? >> mr. barber, i think i heard you tell justisuch that your position is -- has been the settled la did i hear you correctly? >> yes. in the ninth circuit, it has f many years, i think -- outde of the ninth circuit? i mean, what i'm g at is i'm wondering how your position differs from the virtual certainty test that several other circuits a is it different? >> well, so i thathe problem with that, justice barrs th the other circuits don't apply the virtual certaile ithe way that petitioners say they do. what the other circuits say -- what most circuits say is: a risk statement can be false or mislding if either, a, the risk has already materd, which is our case,, th risk hasn'terialized, but it's virtually certain to do so. and that's fine. i don't think anybody has a quarrel with that a t least for purposes of this case. what petitioners are saying is that the virtual certainty rule says, even t cagory a, this kind of case, tteme y mieading if the undisclosed past event is virtuallain harm th

of continuing to serve in the senate. >> lisa murkowski ultimately ended up voting for amy coney barrett. it is anyone's guess on how she will ultimately come out on matt gaetz. just yesterday, she continued to resist the idea of being a rubberstamp for donald trump. >> i would like to see archimedes do their full job. i am not interested in a process that would just say, well, because the president has named him and you have republican chairs coming into the new congress, we just move people out. there needs to be legitimate vetting. >> what other senator worth keeping an eye on is this guy, oklahoma senator mark wayne mullen. prior to joining the senate, parkway mullet accepted the house of representatives alongside matt gaetz. you would be shocked to learn that matt gaetz did not endear himself to mark wayne mullen. gaetz has called mullen a disgrace to the republican party and mullen has shared pretty unflattering anecdotes about gaetz, like this one from last year. >> this is a guy the media did not give the time of day to go after he was accused of sleeping with an underage girl. t

>> i think that the problem with that justice barrett, the other circuits don't apply in the way thatetitioners sayy do. what the other circuits say, what most circuits say a risk entan be false or mislead ifher a the risk hasn't already matzed which is our case or b, the risk hasn't materialized but it's virtually certain to do so. and that's finon'think anybody has a quarrel with that, at least for purpose of this case. what petitioners are sayingn if that category a,his kind of case,he statement is only misleading if the undisclosed past event isally to harm the business. that's wrong. i dohinkny circuit applies that rul there's one case from the tenth circuit that if you looke end to have relevant section of thert's opinion, indiana retirement case, court does seem to apply it tay and we think that's wrong but even above that, in that opinion, court described theule correctly the way i j described it. the probithhe virtual certainty as petitioners imagined it it wouldrt the materiality standard. it's never been thought that the omission of acula facts onlyionable if it's certaio h

usti barrett. >> i think i hea you tell stice gorsuch that your position has beenhe set of law, did iyouorrectly? >> yes. in the ninth circuit it has for many y >> outside of the ninth circuit. what i'm getting at i wonder how your position differs fm other diversity applies, i it different? >> i think the problem with that justice barrett, theer circuits don't apply in the way that petitioners say they do. what the other circuits say, what most circuits say a r statement can be false or mislead if either a risk hasneady materialized which is our case o b, the risk hasn't materialized but it's d that's fine, i don't think anyby has a quarrel with that, at lea purse of this case. what petitioners areayin even if thatategy a, this kind of case, the statement isnly misleading if the undisclosed past event virtually to harm the business. throng. i don't think any circuit applies that rule. there's one case f the tenth circuit that if you look at the end to have relevant section of the court's opinion, indiana retirement case, the court does o aly it that way and we k tt's wrong but even a

congressman-elect tom barrett joins us now. congressman, so great to have you on.ough the process of the9 lottery, which -- who gets which office in the house of representatives. how is it that you landed the same office that your great grandfather had? >> well, thank you so much forking having me on, and this is the an or -- for having me on, and this is an exciting opportunity and exciting moment, of course, for my if family. like all freshmen, i entered the lottery and didn't know what number i was going to draw. to the -- at the beginning of our orientation the i set out trying to notify my colleagues that this was an office my great grandfather had occupied decades earlier, and if it became available, i'd like the land that office for my first pick. first, i had to go to zack nun who's the current out of that office. a member from iowa. i asked if he'd be willing to relocate which, thankfully, he was very gracious about and willing to do. that kind of set out the domino effect from there of trying to notify my colleagues. i wrote a letter to each of them, and

guys. >> maura barrett, thank you. >>> let's turn it over to angie for another check of the weather.e will have the system moving to the east and that will bring the potential of flooding. we will see the line of storms working to the east tomorrow. that line of showers and thunderstorms extending to the golf. this is something we will deal with through the weekend. some spots could get impressive rain. not as much as we would like in the northeast, but tennessee and ohio valley with 1 to 2 inches and down total gulf coast is where we are concerned about impressive flooding. up to 8 inches in places like lake charles for the weekend. hurricane season still going on. we have tropical storm rafael. it is coming in with winds of 65 miles an hour and moving northwest at 6 miles an hour. we will see some of the dangerous surf and rip currents out of the coast. the system will >>> and that's a look at your forecast. guys. >> angie, thank you for that. >>> just ahead for you, the state of economy and what you should know all about your money now that president-elect trump is taking office i

we believe republican tom barrett might be entering election day with a slight advantage over democrat curtis hurtell. that is why republicans might still be ever so slightly favorite for control of the chamber if you have the 22 tossup's break evenly down the middle, republicans would end up at 219, 216 for democrats. what we know from history is it is likely most of the top subs will break one direction. host: colorado's third district. guest: this is the seat where republican lauren boebert left to run in a much redder district on the opposite end of colorado. the democrat in the race, adam fish, he came within 504 votes of beating her never stopped running and raised over $14 million for this house race because for much of the cycle he was running against boebert, probably the best fundraiser the democrats have ever had. now he's running against a more conventional republican, however pu -- an attorney named jeff hurd from grand junction. in 2022, it would never have been that close. because fresh has such a head start. that has kept it somewhat close. we believe the republican hur

barrett to the podium. [ applause ] >> good afternoon. thank you to the hosts, the participants, and many thousands of heroic people who we remember today. i'm here to introduce the japanese-american cases in the supreme court of the united states, 1942 to 1944, and i will proceed in four parts. part one, federal action in discrimination in wartime. the second world war came to the united states on sunday, december 7, 1941, when japan attacked the u.s. navy at pearl harbor, hawaii. the next day, president roosevelt sought from congress, and it provided, a declaration that the u.s. was at war with japan. president roosevelt and the u.s. army west coast commander, general dewitt, then issued a series of orders. these are detailed in the program materials beginning on page three. by the end of march, 1942, over 70,000 u.s. citizens of japanese ancestry and over 40,000 lawful entranltss from japan, were forcefully detained. part two. the 1943 cases and decisions. on may 10, 1943, the supreme court began to hear oral arguments in three cases b

smash cut: two months before a presidential election, trump nominates amy coney barrett to the supremehe completely unforeseeable death of ruth bader-ginsburg. and as you can imagine, the democrats went right to the nearby kinkos! >> behind me is the mcconnell rule. on february 13, 2016, when justice scalia passed away, senator mcconnell said, and i quote, "this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president." >> jon: and so amy coney barrett was forced to head back to her homestead, never to be heard from -- oh, they didn't give a [bleep]? oh, right, i forgot! they didn't give a [bleep]! look, let this show be the utterly ineffective hypocrisy-finders. i can tell you from experience, it does nothing! you guys be the loophole guys that figure out how to get shit done. because they don't give a [bleep] about your norms! they will exploit any loophole, even if they have to go through clearly closed windows to do it. you would think after trump's presidency, democrats would have learned. but they doubled down. when biden tried to get immigration reform into the inflation reduc

barrett did get the office thanks to his new colleagues. that's pretty cool.ect trump told senate republicans not to confirm any more judges before inauguration day. the g.o.p. is cutting a deal with democrats to do just that we will explain what that looks like. remember, if you can't catch us live, set your dvr, 3:00 p.m. in the west and 6:00 p.m. in the east coast. that's it for this "special report," fair, balanced and still unafraid. >> ingraham angle starts now. >> laura: breaking just mo

. >> let's put her with the rifles with nine barrett aiming at her. how she feels about it. >> he has be calling the enemy within, that retribution my follow if he ask re-elected. >> the enemy from within is more dangerous than china and all these countries. >> donald trump is increasingly unstable. >> we're a dumping ground. we're like a garbage can. >> and now in more than 20 states, we have trump abortion bans. >> now, halloween is supposed to be scary as well as fun. a town in wisconsin takes trick-or-treating seriously and elections too, voting for the presidential winner in every recent contest. if this career year voters are feeling presented by a frightening choice. >> we're looking at a democracy that may no longer be that way. is he going to give up his power? just vote this once and we don't have to vote again. what does that mean? it's terrifying. >> how would you feel if you woke up and feel that donald trump had won the election? >> oh, my god, i'd be throwing up. >> republicans is scared too. heather is going to be voting for trump for

people like tom barrett and ryan mackenzie. addison mcdowell. from different states around the country who worked hard to ensure we could have republicans returned to those seats. we have an amazing group of freshmen members will join our conference. the patriots who are already here and ready to implement the agenda on day one. as we sit here this morning we are still watching a number of races. we have races pending in alaska, arizona, california, maine, ohio, and oregon and we will ensure every single legal vote is counted in those races. while we are completing the work of this congress we are shifting gears and we are also still in campaign mode and awaiting the final outcome of these races. looking ahead over the past year i've been working with our committee chairs and our senate colleagues to lay the groundwork for this agenda. it will grow our economy and reduce inflation and secure our borders. we will restore america's energy dominance. will implement educational freedom and we will drain the swamp. that is just the beginning of the a

senators were personally attacked by matt gaetz in 2020 over their refusal to rubberstamp amy coney barrett's nomination to the supreme court. >> here we have murkowski and collins rejecting the duties that they have a senators and if they do that their voters should reject them. if they are unwilling to do their job and take a vote on who the president nominates they should not have the privilege of continuing to serve in the senate. >> now lisa murkowski ended up voting for amy coney barrett's is anyone's guess how she is ultimately going to come down on matt gaetz but yesterday she continued to resist the idea of being a rubberstamp for donald trump. >> i would like to see our committees do their full job. i do not, i am not interested in a process that would to say well, because the president has named him, and you have republican chairs coming into the new congress, that we just move people out. there needs to be legitimate vetting. >> one other senator worth keeping an eye on is this guy. oklahoma senator mark wayne mullen prior to joining the senate he served in the house of representa

them all of the land and the bare coney barrett would not answer brown versus board once the land. what one moving from going back to the 1950's in america. >> to be clear and again, if i sound ridiculous ways ro. >> some people were upset with the kamala harris, mostly republicans, but a few democrats, too. they wanted her to comment more on some controversial. thank on controversial stuff. parents, sanctuary cities, prop 36 and she didn't and maybe wisely. so you can argue that she didn't. she didn't answer a lot of those questions. did that possibly hurt her? jason? >> i think it you know for me when i you know, a lot of people said that that when she debated donald trump, that she won that to pay. but when you look at what she said is she never really clarified any of her policy positions. you know, when donald trump was talking. he said things that were geared specifically towards swing state voters that she didn't pick up on and she didn't actually clarify. and i think that was i would say if she made any mistakes in this in this race, it was not being more clear and more for

on the habeas corpus part you find justice barrett and the new cat yellow with a thousand words and what they believe habeas corpus means in 1000 words about or how they disagree. it's incredible and the fact that it is getting such traction gives me some hope that maybe there really is a broad and deep audience for these kind of primary texts actually at there. that is the hope in any event. >> my last question is along those lines. you said you are building an online library of these readings. where would you encourage people to start if you were to point them to one of these classical writings to begin this self-education in classical virtue, where would they start? >> in the appendix, i give jefferson's reading this. it is a top 10 list and includes the books that started me on this path and that is certainly a wonderful place to begin. but of course, begin whatever your curiosity leads you. this is just one section on jefferson's reading list. there is an amazing selection of literature, of ancient history, of historians like tacitus and others. or pick your own reading lists, great

with us now is "new york times" reporter devlin barrett, part of the team who helped break this story. great seeing you, my friend. is there a timeline for when smith plans to depart? >> so, i think we have to really think about december as the point where he's going to try to finish the main pieces of his work. you know, some of this stuff he doesn't have control over, for example. the court cases, he has to wait on a judge's ruling on what are likely to be motions to dismiss charges. he also, you know, when special counsel reports have been issued in the past, they required intelligence agency review, he can't control those reviews necessarily. so, he does have some parts that he's not in charge of. however, his plan as it has been described to us is to spend the next month figuring out how to wind down the cases, thethat wo his report so he's gone by the time trump becomes president. >> and so that final report, you know, what could we potentially learn from it? >> so, the final report can be a lot of things, but i think we need to keep in mind, this report may be quite different t

let's bring in msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin and barrett berger.learning about judge merchan's decision to postpone this? >> this is not a decision that judge merchan reached on his own. the parties came to him together and said that trump's team had asked the district attorney's office whether they would agree to a stay given constitutional concerns about sentencing a future president and a president-elect particularly in light of the burdens of an upcoming presidential transition and that's when the district attorney's office said yeah, we agree, there are competing interests that have to be balanced. on one hand, we want to support the jury verdict. we believe that it was reached correctly. on the other hand, there are some legitimate concerns here dealing with the office of the president, and so we are asking you jointly to steal the deadlines in this case. we will come back to you and it sounds like he will come back and say i will stay these deadlines until november 19th and you have to come back to me by 10:00 a.m. on november 19th telling m