they will find a mini barringian. then we have to pivot to really bigger issues that are key to this economy growing over time and getting fiscal sustainability over time. >> david, in the simplest terms, the fiscal cliff means $7 trillion. a combination of things expiring, taxes going up. over the course of a decade. i want to be serious about had without being fear mongering. it is serious. that might sound like a dream scenario to a deficit hawk like you. wow, we're going to get rid of $7 trillion over ten years. why don't you love this idea of going over the fiscal cliff? >> we must not go over the fiscal cliff. it would cause us to go back into recession, exacerbate our unemployment and underemployment numbers, undercut confidence in government and potentially undercut at built to be able to get a grand bargain. we need to do a down payment. we need to extend most of the major tax provisions and spending reductions to set up a grand barringian in 2013. and the president needs to show extraordinary leadership and

. >>> and black friday has come and gone and now the best barringians are 48 hours away, perhaps, on cyber monday. we'll have tips you need in order to try and save some cash this holiday season. "your money" starts right now. >>> for months i wornd you about the economic storm of the dangers of going over the so-called fiscal cliff. the one washington created. it seems with the noise of the campaign behind us, washington is listening which means that after several months of harping on the dangers that you face, i'm ready to make a big switch to telling you about the opportunities that lie ahead. i'm ali velshi and this is "your money." i will not drop this issue until it is settled. then we have the debt ceiling debate. but there is life after washington induced catastrophe. frankly, it looks like a pretty good life. if all goes according to plan, 2013 could be a big turn around year for the u.s. the start of a recovery that feels real. most of it will have very little to do with washington policy though your state and federal government will have to step in to make it happen. let m