that's one of the reasons for -- this is the old classical argument was it barrington moore that once the middle class the prosperity the prosperous center of your population reaches a certain level, they will be demanding democracy and political rights. that certainly does seem to fit in that because the percentage of middle class has certainly risen in russia, thanks to the oil prices in last decade. and now as that phrase was you had before, it's used many times, they have become consumers already. it's not the economic grievances they have. they want to become citizens. they want to have a voice in their future. >> can i say something on the putin program? it seems to me that will president putin does have a program and if you look at the documents he gave a series of ten speeches including some basic speeches on the issue of economics. and if you look at the programs that he's emphasizing and the papers that are coming out from the council on productive forces in russia, the sops group with the development of the arctic, it's an extensive infrastructure program in which they will

this is the old classical, you know, argument, barrington moore, that once the middle class is prosperous, you know, the population reaches a certain level, it's it's going to be demanding democracy and political rights. it seems to fit in that because the percentage of middle class has certainly risen in russia and not thanks to putin but the oil prices in the last decade, but the phrase used before many times, it's ready, it's not the economic grievances they have. they want to be citizens, have a voice in their future. >> [inaudible] it seems that president putin has a program, and looking at the documents, there's a series of ten speeches including basics of economics and looking at the programs he's emphasizing and the papers coming out from the council on productive forces in russia's stop group and the development of the arctic, that's a structural program using the oil and gas that's important, but now there's an orientation for mineral resources, china and india need the resources, those mineral resources there in the arctic and in the far east. putin's going to develop this stuf