barry goldwater told me and bob goldwater reiterates this.oldwater was so angry at richard nixon leading up to the resignation is because, "richard was a g-d liar." there is a thing in the documentary, from childhood he said that if we did something wrong and we told the truth, we did not get punished. if we lied, we got punished. there is a very strong thing about lying. he was so angry at richard nixon for lying through watergate. >> in 1968 i was covering the republican convention in miami. i was able to meet barry goldwater who was there. he was extremely nice. he struck me as totally different from his national image. i also discovered ronald reagan in the back of the news section of an auditorium being interviewed in a booth by nbc. i was the on the what to see him there. ronald reagan was making noises about running for president at that convention. i stood outside while he was finishing the interview. i think it was with david brinkley. he came out and by that time a whole lot of other reporters had gathered out there. mr. ronald reag

barry goldwater is--cronkite would say it, and you can get the old tapes out. "barry goldwater said today..." i got it. there's something wrong with the guy. there was a sense he was off the--off somewhere. he wasn't really somebody to be respected intellectually. and the media was like that, and prime time television is very secular, it's very liberal. it's liberal on things like gay rights and respect for gay people and for all kinds of things. you never see anybody saying on "frasier," "i got to go to church now." it just was that way. and i think a lot of conservatives say, "that doesn't represent my life. i've got to offer--so when fox came along, they said, fair and balanced. and everybody knew that was a joke. nobody really believes it's fair and balanced. nobody who watches it believes it's fair and balanced. they believe it balances off the liberal media, and they think it's fair only in the sense that it's getting even. they don't believe it's fair and balanced. yeah, i'm sure. that's why i don't trust a lot of polling because, yeah, sure it's fair an

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we now go to barry goldwater. >> hubert is sitting there try to listen to you reminds me of trying to read playboy magazine with my wife turning the pages i happen to think i am in a pretty tough race. i am spending the money i legally can. that is the action. >> that is a stupid question if you don't mind my saying so. but i never said that airplane would not fly. >> people all over the country keep talking about legalizing gambling. i thought we already had it. it is called election day. [laughter] i now realize what it takes to become the president. apparently it helps to have a brother who sits at a gas station drinking beer all day. [laughter] when i was campaigning in that razor-10 election in 1964 -- razor-thin election in 1964, i should have told everyone that dean is my brother. [laughter] >> more than the humor thing at, where has he ever worked in politics and whereas it not? -- where has it not? >> piven what wendell willkie said when asked about his religion, i think he said he liked to sleep in on sunday mornings. i think it is sort of -- i think the sort of contrarian s

. >> the daisy commercial in 1964 that was used against barry goldwater -- if only played one spottedimpact. as did ronald reagan's bear in the woods from 1994. those evoked powerful o of motions. now, wee are in an era where everything a candidate say is recorded and is available. you will see a plethora of spots featuring candidates saying things they wh they had not said. >> you cannot get away with anything these days, colby. it is not fair. >> you will also have a lot of distortions, as you h had with the mitt romney ads against barack obama. i a am not looking for 2 this season. they seeto get nastier and nastier. if it goes to humor, it can work. but if it goes nasty, it is a turnoff. >> the worst thing, these days and these multimillion dollar organization that are " separate" from the candidate, so the candidate has immuny. these organizations can say anything. there are lots of oanizatations journalistic organizations that tell you that this is a line or a half fly but it does that catch up to the average person who has the television on while they are cooking d dinner. >> y

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. >> some have suggested the daisy commercial from 1964 that was used against barry goldwater -- it only played once but had phenomenal impact. there is a bear in the woods. most of those were enormously strong, evoked powerful emotions. now, everything a candidate says is recorded and is available. you will see a plethora of spots that feature candidates saying things they wish they had not said it that you cannot get away with anything these days. it is not fair. >> as we saw with the romney had against barack obama, i am not looking forward to the season. these things seem to get nastier and nastier. if it is humor, it can work. but if it is nasty, it is a turnoff. >> the worst thing is, these multimillion dollar organization that are separate from the candidate. so the candidate has no responsibility. these ads can play almost anything. there are lots of organizations, journalistic organizations that can research this and tell you if it is true or not, but it does not catch up to the average person who has the television on while they are cooking dinner. >> doesn't make you wish you

some analysts say that the hard right sees in newt's tough talk another barry goldwater. >> in this free nation, we do not choose to be ruled, we elect to be governed. >> and the right does seem to think that gingrich is one of them. he was a conservative hero of the 1994 contract with america which swept him to the speakership. but there is another side of the newt ledger. he was once pro choice, saw evidence of climate change, was outspoken against big cuts to medicare, all of which is confounding to mitt romney, the guy who conventional wisdom has considered the eventual nominee. joe, you have a cover story, "time magazine," why can't they love mitt romney? >> there's the obvious flip-flopping on all these issues but there are two other reasons. >> i was a rick santorum event in central iowa with seven other people, actually, and i was asking them why they couldn't support romney and several to me, he's a big corporate guy. the republican party has become far more populist and working class than it was in the past. and there's a passion gap. republicans really want to have somebody wh

. >> the daisy commercial in 1964 that was used against barry goldwater -- if only played one spotted had phenomenal impact. as did ronald reagan's bear in the woods from 1994. those evoked powerful of motions. -- emotions. now, we are in an era where everything a candidate says is recorded and is available. you will see a plethora of spots featuring candidates saying things they wish they had not said. >> i am not looking forward to this season. they seem to get nastier and nastier. it is a sense of humor, it can work, but if it gets nasty, it is a turnoff. >> the worst thing is, these days, multi million dollar organization that are "separate" from the candidate. the candidate has deniability, and these organizations run ads that say almost anything. there are lots of organizations, journalistic organizations their research this and tell you this is a lie, half-life, three-quarters of a lie. but it does not catch up to the average person who is watching television as their cooking dinner. >> you wish you could write these, charles? >> i write a lot of them, but i disguise them. i pi

somewhat accessible and personable. >> very quickly, i would say we saw the charming side of barry goldwater and i would say for all the differences, goldwater and humphrey are two illustrations of candidates who are more likable than the men who defeated them. >> all right. we have only seven or eight minutes left. here is george wallace. >> i feel, and i must say i've climbed my last political mountain, but there are still some personal hills i must climb, but for now i must pass the rope and the pick to another climber and say climb on, climb on to higher heights, climb on to reach our peak and then look back and wave at me. i, too, will still be climbing. my fellow alabamians, i bid you a fond and affectionate farewell. [applause] >> karl cannon, your reaction? >> george wallace burst on to the scene of america not sitting in a wheelchair but standing and looked like a middleweight fighter, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever. he runs as a candidate. he runs as a racist candidate, really and spoke in code but there was no mistaking it. and late in life after he's wounded by an assa

presidential election, it was lyndon johnson running for a full term, and his republican opponent was barry goldwater, republican senator from arizona. it came about in the research that johnson's campaign, the democratic national committee and the advertising firm that they hired, doyle, dane burnback, a very up and coming, prominent advertising firm from new york, came out of the research they did and the thinking and the talking that they did about where's goldwater vulnerable, where can we go after him, initially they thought it was of going to be civil rights because goldwater had voted against the civil rights act of 1964. but that issue sort of faded. then they thought it might be the vietnam war, but neither candidate was interested in talking about vietnam at that time. so it came down to goldwater's statements about nuclear weaponry. and it, goldwater had made so many reckless remarks. for example, he had joked about lobbing a missile into the men's room of the kremlin after kennedy had talked about sending a man to the moon. he said i don't want to send a missile to the moon, i want to sen

somewhat accessible and personable. >> very quickly, i would say we saw the charming side of barry goldwater and i would say for all the differences, goldwater and humphrey are two illustrations of candidates who are more likable than the men who defeated them. >> all right. we have only seven or eight minutes left. here is george wallace. >> i feel, and i must say i've climbed my last political mountain, but there are still some personal hills i must climb, but for now i must pass the rope and the pick to another climber and say climb on, climb on to higher heights, climb hope to reach our peak and then look back and wave at me. i, too, will still be climbing. my fellow alabamians, i bid you a fond and affectionate farewell. [applause] >> karl cannon, your reaction? >> george wallace burst on to the scene of america not sitting in a wheelchair but standing and looked like a middleweight fighter, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever. he runs as a candidate. he runs as a racist candidate, really and spoke in code but there was no mistaking it. and late in life after he's wounded by an as

we sought to show support for our are merging champion barry goldwater. and from a class of 1000 young men, all men in those days, we have five supporters. not included in our number, i would note, was our hard- drinking classmate richard b. cheney. dick cheney was a 160-pound scatback on the football team. not included in our team was a quiet economics major named arthur laffer. they drawfed our the support among the faculty. the faculty, 700 strong in those days, yielded to supporters. one was a feisty lecturer in the yale law school named robert bork. the other was an asian scholar named dave rao who contributed to the journal lethat rick edit. we would have had 50% more dsupport. the second thing i would say about bill is what rich mentioned, and a critical ingredient is joy. every buckley enterprises was aimed at high purpose but pursued in high spirit. the sound that rings in memory is bill's laughing. bill on the telephone with a delicious story. bill on the boat with his best friend. i will give you one example here. this is years after the event,

barry goldwater is another one. apparently, when you lose in a landslide you're not feeling that good. during nixon's second inaugural, george mcgovern was in england at oxford, and gave a speech in which he was very critical of nixon. that actually caused a lot more comments than the concession speech he gave. i think the concession speech was in the realm of what is expected of a losing candidate. but the speech in oxford in 1973, a lot of people criticized him for saying those things, especially to a foreign audience. >> we're going to move on to what george mcgovern did after he ran for president in 1972. but first we're going to get to ed in ohio. >> good evening. there is an important article that george mcgovern wrote that was in the washington journal. it is my advice to obama. he went on to say, first, i will order all troops out of iraq and afghanistan by thanksgiving. >> ed, i am going to leave it there because we're getting a lot of feedback. you have to turn your television down. scott farris, pick it u

dating back to his support of rockefeller over barry goldwater.t of childish outburst is nothing new. that from the ron paul campaign. >> going back to '64 again. >> can i ask a question? you folks, i've always wondered because it's a word that gets used in the political context all the way. what's the derivation of floundering? >> because i think a fish, flop -- >> it's the fish flopping around? >> you are floundering. >> a boat that founders is worse. >> word play with ed rendell and chris matthews and alex wagner. >> hey, richard, i miss the old above the fray newt gingrich. what happened to that guy? he was there for about 2 1/2 weeks and here he is back in the mud. >> well, he doesn't have money to do this on air in ads, and he has to do this kind of thing. i'm entertained by a man the tiffany's millionaire versus the wall street millionaire. one's $20 million, the other's worth $250 million. i don't see how this strategy's going to work, he's never going to sucker romney into it. i guess he sounds tough when he's with wolf blitzer. >> richar

you said that newt would be the best thing happened to the party since barry goldwater.t do you precisely mean there? >> he would be a very weak candidate. he would lose heavily and lot of democrats would win races in which there would be a great falloff. i think newt is the split between the extremely conservative sector of america which is the republican presidential primary electorate and the rest of the country is very clear. and i believe that, a man with gingrich's vulnerability, if he wins the nomination it's because romney is understandably seen as sufficiently conservative. thatly allow gingrich to overcome a lot. for the republican debate, i have been casting the wizard of oz. mitt romney is the tin woodman without the heart. rick perry, he makes the point, what's scary about people is what they don't know is what they know that it isn't true. his ad, that faith is a sign of weakness. that's delusional. newt is the wizard of oz. >> let me ask you. >> newt is the one. >> go ahead. >> newt, there's nothing there. when people focus on him as opposed to be the not

something from the in 1963.that the rohe wrote we are talking even before he gave the speech to barry goldwater. it sums up his strategy. "the only sure way to avoid war is to surrender without fighting. the other way is based on the belief supported so far by all the evidence that in an all-out race, our system is stronger, and eventually the enemy gives {as a hopeless cause. then a noble nation, leaving in a piece extends the hand of friendship, says there's room in the world for both of us." that is 1963. that describes what he accomplished, basically. the exit. -- that's it. when he left the governorship in 1975 until he ran for president in 1980, he did 1024 radio commentaries, each of them three minutes. he wrote 686 of them himself. they are here in the reagan library as part of his personal papers, because they are written while he is not an office. a temporary aberration that will one day disappear from the eric's, because it is contradictory to human nature, is what he wrote. he had a great deal of confidence in the united states and its people. he said in his 1980 campaign, he basica

reminds me of one of my favorite political stories, used to be told about barry goldwater rally, oldimes" report, used to tell the story. woman comes running out of the rally, tears streaming down her face, saying stop them! stop those reporters! they're writing down every word he's saying. throw his words back at him -- >> mitt romney and his wife on the cover of "parade" magazine, soft focus interview. you've talked around it. he hasn't been on a sunday show in a year and a half. why isn't the press calling him out on his lack of accessibility? >> i think they have, but it's interesting why he hasn't done it. if he did it more he probably would get used to it. he's been good in the debates. he can state his views with clarity and with flewensy. i think it's mistake as we saw in 2008 to shield them from the media. i think it's better to get them out, get them to be accessible and to defend themselves. when he speaks for himself, he can articulate his views and has given speeches explaining incon consistencies. >> and a magazine points out that mitt romney of all the candidates, he's

wednesday, barry goldwater. on thursday, hubert humphrey. on friday, george wallace. and then on saturday, george mcgovern, followed by ross perot. "the contenders," every night on c-span. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] end, on the tv, a trip into the macabre. the bloody book was said to be in the hands of john paul -- of jean paul marat when he died. it only aired once. but it may be the most famous political ad ever produced. were man on daisy puddles and mushroom clouds. and it served as the model for the civil-rights boycott. historians and participants on the impact of the bus boycotts. the 1810 document decorated the very short lived west for a republican of louisiana. >> this week on "q&a," michelle fields of the daily caller. >> michelle fields, how would you describe what you do for a living? >> i am a video journalist. what we're doing is almost like citizen journalism, which is when an individual who does not have that much training has the tools of modern technology to captur

those -- it reminds me of being a kid and liking barry goldwater.hink a lot of young people love that stuff. why do you think it's grabbing not just young people? young people are young and healthy, let me ride my motorcycle without a helmet, let me live my life. is that what it's about? is that the appeal of ron paul in iowa? >> right. he's got a lot of support from young libertarians, but also, you've got to remember the iowa caucuses are going to be held on january 3rd. the colleges are going to be on christmas and new year's holidays. so not all of those people are going to be here to vote. and it really depends upon who turns out. he's got some very strident supporters, but you've also got to remember, there are a lot of candidates in this race, and we're looking at maybe the front-runner getting around 20% or something like that. in the end, it could change hands another time or two before it's over. it's a wide open race. i don't think we should focus too much on any one candidate. let the voters decide. i have a lot of confidence in iowa cau

this is the very -- barry goldwater candidacy that led to the ronald reagan presidency in 1980. you can give george mcgovern quite a bit of credit for the barack obama currency in 2008. the constituency just wasn't ready in 1972. >> tonight's contenders, george mcgovern, the congressman and senator from south dakota, and the democratic nominee party president in 1972. our post -- our first call is from mike in new york. >> mcgovern became the head of the middle east policy council after deciding not to run for the president again in 1992. he submitted a proposal for president clinton calling on the united states to protect access to israeli -- middle east oil. did president clinton accept the proposal? if so, what happened as it affects others? >> scott farris and jules witcover all are here shaking their heads. scott farris, his legacy? >> the certainly was very interested in middle east affairs. he was always interested in helping with the peace agreements. president clinton did not accept that early on. of course, per the clinton at the end of this with nancy made a herculean

standingç against conservative dating back to his support for liberal nelson rockefeller over barry goldwaterthing new. the ron paul campaign is not backing down from its attacks again newt gingrich or mott romney. they have a new ad called washington machine where they claim serial hypocrites and flip-floppers can't clean up the mess. and when they say sear iderial hypocrites they show newt gingrich and serial flip-floppers they show mitt romney. >> what's the fallout from the news laeletters? >> i'm told this is news old. that ron paul has disavowed any of this content. he didn't write it. anyone who knows ron paul in his heart knows that he doesn't believe this. milissa, also on a different note, in iowa part of ron paul's organization is not turning out the old establishment republicans. it's turning out new caucusgoers. nbc news has learned this morning that ron paul has agreed to be a part of the rock the vote at west des moines valley high school on the morning of the caucus at 10:00 a.m. they're expecting about 800 high school students to attend. milissa? >> nbc's anthony terrell, tha

rollback of government than any republican candidate since at least ronald reagan 1980 and arguably barry goldwater1964. the other thing the president did was really emphasize the trends toward income polarization and equality and perhaps more importantly the decline in the ability of people to move from one level to another level in our society. these are arguments that democrats have wanted to hear him press and in a populous way. they're not politically cost free, but he certainly identified with them as closely as he has at any point in his presidency. >> okay. so back to those polls again, very positive for the obama white house, showing that he would beat romney, he would beat gingrich in south carolina and florida, according to those polls. why don't you buy that? >> if he wins south carolina, the rubble will bounce as they say. in the spirit of the weekend, i bet you $10,000 on south carolina. democrats have won it only once since 1968. the large minority population does get them within range. obama got to 45% as i recall. the white population is as reliably republican and conservative real

so they see newt gingrich as a barry goldwater disaster waiting to happen about and so what you're seeingh the bringing forward of people like chris christie, he's a plea to the party, do not make this mistake. you and all of your neighbors may love newt gingrich but the country's full of people who remember the clinton impeachment and don't want to relitigate that. today newt gingrich came on with wolf blitz somewhere it was a lot of -- i mean generous newt, actually. he was talking about mitt romney, praising him, calling him confident saying he would support him if he became the nominee. he would pick him as a vice president potentially and listen to this. >> i wish everybody had loved me. i'd rather be effective representing the american people than be popular inside washington. what do you think, john? >> he's very gently responding to the criticism he's been getting from the colleagues from back in the 1990s. >> it's been nasty stuff. >> when year on top you have to be above the fray. he's the tea party candidate. you have the outsider insurgent force. and that is a fascinating role

wednesday, barry goldwater. thursday, a hip -- thursday, and hubert humphrey. friday, george wallace. saturday, george mcgovern followed by billionaire businessman ross perot. every nightders" on on c-span. >> i am here arguing in favor of higher taxes on the wealthy. i am one of the wealthiest 1%. >> would you guys be willing to do it -- to donate to the department of treasury? >> individually? >> yes. >> no. >> i am very active, philanthropic leagcally. >> i have a donation paige for the government. >> that will not help anybody. you heard me. you are being silly. >> i am a video journalists. what you're doing is almost like citizen journalism. that is when an individual who does not have that much training in journalism has the tools of modern technology to capture a a live -- capture a live event, but does not have a background in journalism. >> video journal as michelle fields shares her experiences tonight on c-span's "q&a." >> next weekend "booktv and american history -- "booktv" and "american history tv." a trip into the macabre -- the bloody book was s

out there are so much against government, they're willing to go with a guy as libertarian as barry goldwaterut it's ron paul's legions of supporters that we're talking about right now. you don't really often meet undecided voters in iowa who are considering ron paul. >> i see. >> so it's a really -- you know, so, what -- we don't know how he's going to do in new hampshire yet or south carolina. he's really been focusing here. so i don't know that we can take that away there him. >> describe him, erin. what kind of people do you see when you meet, who are ron paul? are they young college libertarians, like we were? people that really believe in individualism? >> they are. you meet a lot of college kids who are always coming out to his events, time and time again. but i'll tell you this, chris. we get the nastiest hate mail from ron paul supporters than i've ever gotten before for anything that you could possibly write. they're very dedicated. they will always comment. and if there's something that you think that you're doing wrong in your coverage of ron paul, they will let you know. >> but t

it looks like if you want the true blue conservative, someone like barry goldwater of the old days, someone do my own thing, nobody has a really good record except the extremist, if you will, ron paul. >> you're absolutely right, and the problem with ron paul is that the independent voter out there in pennsylvania in, florida, in michigan and ohio will not even entertain the thought of voting for someone like that. i think the real conservative out there that obviously is not running is jeb bush. if in fact he was not a person by the name of bush he probably would be the front-runner right now because he has all of the qualifications that you just mentioned a few moments ago, chris, but if i can go back to rick santorum for a moment. it would very interesting, let's say hypothetically he won his re-election in 2006 and did not say some of the unfortunate comments that he said about gays, he probably would be the number one front-runner right about now but obviously that's not the case. rick santorum for the very same reasons that i mentioned about ron paul is not palatable to the independen

so they see newt gingrich as a barry goldwater disaster waiting to happen about and so what you're seeingorward of people like chris christie, he's a plea to the party, do not make this mistake. you and all of your neighbors may love newt gingrich but the country's full of people who remember the clinton impeachment and don't want to relitigate that. today newt gingrich came on with wolf blitzer it was a lot of -- i mean generous newt, actually. he was talking about mitt romney, praising him, calling him confident saying he would support him if he became the nominee. he would pick him as a vice president potentially and listen to this. >> i wish everybody had loved me. i'd rather be effective representing the american people than be popular inside washington. what do you think, john? >> he's very gently responding to the criticism he's been getting from the colleagues from back in the 1990s. >> it's been nasty stuff. >> when year on top you have to be above the fray. he's the tea party candidate. you have the outsider insurgent force. and that is a fascinating role reversal. among other t

. >> that really reminds me of the old days, barry goldwater. that appeal in our 20s and late teens. this idea that ideally we don't need government. need government. when you reach 65 or 70 and have health problems and realize you have parents that are getting old, you realize that government's pretty healthy, sometimes, pretty healthy to have it around. >> somebody here in iowa that personiies new establishment. he's had crowds of thousands at iowa state university, at the university of iowa. there's a tremendous movement. that challenge is turning those new people out on caucus night. >> and it's turning in a lot of criticism. when you get to the front, people start looking at it. here a "new york times" blog today, james kircheck accuses him of supporting anti-government conspiracy theories. he writes, "it's impossible to know what ron paul truly this is about black or gay people or the other groups so viciously disparaged in his new letters. what do we know? we know with absolute certainty, however, that ron paul is a paranoid conspiracy th

politics that was made to appeal to the rising generation of republicans, baby boomers, who had read barry goldwater, read the national review and wanted an intellectual gloss for the all-out kneecapping they were about to commit against the democratic party. that's newt's background. the older generation of republican voters, likely republican voters, remember that newt. they remember the bad stuff like the shutdown of the government, et cetera, et cetera, forgot newt the cry baby on air force one. they remember newt the attack dog. they remember newt, the guy who blew up a seemingly, you know, entrenched democratic establishment. >> yeah. >> and they are looking at newt at age 68 to do the same thing all over again to barack obama and his establishment. to them he's not a villain. they think he's a gunslinger, to use the jack palance terminology, and they like it, especially when all the other conservatives have gone nowhere, and the other thing i would like to say about the "time" poll. it's amazing. mitt romney is mr. 20 to 25. leave new hampshire out of it gets 20% to 25% every we are. not usua