where you had establishment republicans, nelson rockefeller type, and you had barry goldwater whose rhetoric -- similar to ronald reagan -- was government is the problem, not the solution, that the whole purpose of america, the whole american enterprise was to allow people to live their lives as they see fit, pursue their own dreams with the government simply protecting life, liberty, property and the pursuit of happiness in general. so it's a different republican party from the ronald reagan days, and that's why you have this civil war going on. >> host: from your book, "the republican party's civil war," the best way to end the gop civil war is for libertarian and establishment republicans to refuse to pander to such extreme social conservatives. huckabee, santorum and their followers want to leave the gop, let them. >> guest: yep. what i argue is this. if you take a look at those three factions, they come in several different flavors. there are libertarians, for example, who i think are too unrealistic. if we don't get rid of the welfare state tomorrow, we're not going to go for

charlie: because of barry goldwater and then ronald reagan. buckley, barry goldwater, then ronald reagan. reagan was a movement conservative. that still exists? peggy: it does, but that's a bit fractured. there are three or four things. not higher taxes, lower. not regulation higher, lower. it's all gotten a little bit more complicated now. things started to fall apart in the george w. bush era. there was great argument about the war and he felt it necessary. charlie: he said he wanted to be a compassionate conservative. is conservatism passionate? -- compassionate? peggy: good question. it can be. it should be. it does not always look that way. ,hey can be pretty crabby especially when they debate what conservatism is. we have a party that says the conservative way to look at entitlement spending is that we made a deal with the people. and you keep your deals. they have a moral right to everything they were told to expect from those programs. american spending is out of control. it is uncompassionate to them to make them carry the load. all t

what happened is barry goldwater told us he turned against nixon for two reasons, too many crimes, too many lives. the republican leadership in the middle of the week, the first week of august of 1974, john rhodes, the house republican leader, and hugh scott, and goldwater went to visit nixon, nixon asked kind of an comfortably according to bowater's diary, substantiated by roads and hugh scott, said i am going to be impeached in the house. that is a sure thing. and how many votes do i have in the senate? 20? no, of course that would mean he would be removed from office and goldwater said mr. president, my last count is you only have four folks, one of them is not mine. nixon resigned, announced his resignation the next day. so these are people who believed nixon had some positive traits. in the end every member of the house judiciary committee considering impeachment said they would vote to in peach nixon, 40 or 42 people. he crossed the political constitutional and moral line that caused his own party to reject him. are the good things? sure. the republican party and the democratic p

talking to this fellow down here whose first election was 1964, voted for barry goldwater back then, and i tell you, you don't see any barry goldwaters in this pack. >> no, that's for sure, even back then. >> reporter: what did you think of the debate last night? >> i thought it was more substantive, the questions were more relevant than the last debates. i think they handled it pretty well. i don't like the split though between the two, the early debate and the second debate. >> reporter: you'd like to have them altogether? >> there were too many. they could have put them all on the stage last night, because they only had four and eight. >> reporter: you got a favorite among any of them? >> no, not yet. neither side. neither on the republican side nor the democrat. >> reporter: you've only got a year to figure it out. >> i'm not in a rush. >> reporter: appreciate it, let you get back to the pancakes. i leave you with a picture of the international house of pancakes, today they're giving away a stack of pancakes, red, white, and blue pancakes to veteran or active duty military. we've

or strom thermon, or barry goldwater on the right ever became president, and few voters stray far from the mean. maybe you worry about donald trump and maybe you're a donald trump supporter. i wonder if this level of concern is really called for before a single voter or caucus goer has ventured out of their front door. meanwhile, it's my hope for you that over this long holiday weekend, you're with who you want to be with, and as we bring you another year of struggle from around the world, you find that you have plenty to be grateful for. happy thanksgiving. i'm ray suarez, and that's the "inside story." >> this is aljazeera america, live from new york city. aim tony harris. bracing for backlashes from new york city. post-s, after releasing dash cam video of a fatal shooting, and a bombing of a charity hospital in afghanistan. keep calm, and thanksgiving on, president obama tries to reassure americans about the state of security in the united states, and part of the [ audio diffic

or strom thermon, or barry goldwater on the right ever became president, and few voters stray far from the mean. maybe you worry about donald trump and maybe you're a donald trump supporter. i wonder if this level of concern is really called for before a single voter or caucus goer has ventured out of their front door. meanwhile, it's my hope for you that over this long holiday weekend, you're with who you want to be with, and as we bring you another year of struggle from around the world, you find that you have plenty to be grateful for. happy thanksgiving. i'm ray suarez, and that's the "inside story." >>> as the war of words continues over the downed russian plane, so does the diplomacy. the french president's next stop is moscow. ♪ ♪ >>> you are watching al jazeera with me peter at our world head quast, he also on this program. despite security concerns the pope is in african on his first trip to the continent. his main message reconciliation. the u.s. military admits human error was to blame for the bombing of a hospital in afghanistan. french and muslim. the horror that

or strom thermon, or barry goldwater on the right ever became president, and few voters stray far from the mean. maybe you worry about donald trump and maybe you're a donald trump supporter. i wonder if this level of concern is really called for before a single voter or caucus goer has ventured out of their front door. meanwhile, it's my hope for you that over this long holiday weekend, you're with who you want to be with, and as we bring you another year of struggle from around the world, you find that you have plenty to be grateful for. happy thanksgiving. i'm ray suarez, and that's the "inside story." >>> turkey relies audio of warnings it says were given to the russian fighter jet before it was shot down. ♪ ♪ >>> hello i am darren jordan with the world news from doha. admitting human area was to blame for bombing a hospital in afghanistan. a court in china rejects an a beal by a 71-year-old journalist in prison for leaking state secrets. plus. pope francis begins his first ever tour of africa with a

applause] when nixon resigned 74 and what caused the nixon resignation was the republican and barry goldwater of arizona often called the conscience of the republican party had his diary to explain what happened into turned against nixon in the republican leadership that the house republican leader and goldwater and nixon asked according to new goldwater diary situated by hugh scott said i will be impeached in the house so how many votes do i have of the senate? twenty? that goldwater said mr. president you only have four and one of them is not mine. nixon announced it is resignation the next day. every member of the house judiciary committee said they will vote to impeach nixon was 40 or 42 people. so he crossed a couple little constitutional and moral line to reject him. so are they good things? sure but the republican party of democratic party and the citizens of this country said we cannot have this criminal president. >> [inaudible] >> across the potomac in the in fact, did they tear it down? of what the city put up to say this is where the meetings took place. [inaudible] >> and colleag

but a lot less predictable is that people like the former congressman barry goldwater was a congressmanfrom california then headed up the group utilities will be killed and it's a very kind of libertarian perspective group that is basically saying that home owners and businesses have the right to generate their own solar energy and should be able to kind of fight off the giant utility monopolies and should be compensated. people like that are among the surprise and i can tell you about a mayor in california as well if you like. the town in california called lancaster was known as a warfare center for many years until 2008 when a right-wing republican law and order guy class action litigator was elected on a crime-fighting platform and very proudly told me that he had put 20,000 suspended gang members behind bars during his first years in office. i suspect he didn't think he was suspected. and if you join the gang the constitution just doesn't apply to you. so that's that kind of hard-nosed political perspective he also brings to address the climate change issue and could force the fact

it goes back to barry goldwater.hat it means is that if you take the $15 -- let's take immigration for a second. the commerce department that ted cruz wants to do away with twice, you look at the people who take these jobs who are undocumented workers they are not taking jobs of people in the united states. they are getting $6, $7 an hour. >> i'm going to have michelle malcolm on and she will beg to differ with you. >> nothing new about that. but truth be told they like illegal immigrants. so does jeb bush. in texas, no one argued about it. they came in, did the picking and left. >> mindy, do you agree that illegal immigrants are not taking these jobs? >> i think that marco rubio had one of the best lines on this yesterday. the issue, if you are somebody who really needs a job, ted cruz had a good point too and you are having trouble finding a job, you believe that illegal immigrants are taking those jumps. there are two sides to the story there. but in some states, i mean, there is a real feeling among the populatio

in 1964, forced to choose between conservative barry goldwater and liberal nelson rockefeller, new hampshire warning the country. and the republican party what was to come that year, a colossal defeat at the hands of president lyndon johnson. four years later, new hampshire democrats dumped lyndon johnson by giving eugene mccarthy 47% of the vote, they cast a decisive vote against the vietnam war. in 1980, they made ronald reagan president, telling george herbert walker bush that he would have to wait his turn. in the year 2000, they chose john mccain over george w. bush, a decision the country should have made. another early warning in a state that takes its first in the role seriously and to hurt. w. did not have the right stuff to be president. he lacked the one thing a president needs, discernment, the ability to separate the truth from the arguments, the right course from the pressure of the ideologues, special pleaders, and a national problem case known as dick cheney. in 2008, new hampshire gave a helpful warning to barack obama, in choosing hillary clinton, they said, they didn't lik

. >> within the republican party itself, the party that has had barry goldwater in the 1960's.w do they feel about her views on this and abortion rights? >> there was no doubt that she was a polarizing take your. 70% voiced approval. that meant 30% disapproved. you can be sure that the 30% was disproportionately the republican base. certainly, conservative republicans. traditionalists. there was a legitimate debate, it was interesting, i would recommend to your readers -- a book about the ford presidency -- it is well researched and a great read. that author makes the case stronger than i would that she was on balance, detrimental to her husband's reelection prospects. particularly within the republican party. not exclusively though. >> you have mentioned the 60 minutes interview a couple of times. how significant was it to the public's view of her and the parties in view of her? >> i think it defined her to millions of people. for many, it was the first time they had seen her in that kind of setting. i also think -- remember how americans were accustomed to seeing their first

joining the far right john birch society, registering as a republican and voting from 1964 for barry goldwaterand soviet union and labor unions. matlovich's patriotism assumed disdain for what he called the loony left and its criticisms of the united states. he liked to say of america we are to be better than the average bear, because he grew up as a military brat, and he knew well the military's attitudes toward clears, he had never even heard or put his arms around anyone other written family until he was 30. but in 1973, he chance to hear about a pensacola, florida nightclub from one of his students in his race relations class. a straight captain who said he had wandered in not knowing it was a homosexual hang out. matlovich, sweating and shaking dared go look. once inside he acknowledged himself what he had long suppressed. familiar and pound left my shoulders, he thought. his first homosexual experience. the next year he read an article in the march 27th issue of air force times that startled and thrilled him. homosexuals in uniform. and dr. frank, the founder 1961, the organization fight

now, in 1964, the republicans went off of the track, and the conservatives insisted on barry goldwater and he got 38% of the vote. in 1972, the democrats went off of the track, and the left insisted on george mcgovern, and he got 38% of the vote, and there were loads of people running for governor and senator and house member on that party ticket that lost because of how poorly the nominee for president did. >> i can see the opposition research commercials coming out, and the paid for we hate 38 group. and i have to wrap it there, but david gergen and larry sabato, will you come back. >> yes, let's do it, ashleigh. thanks. >> and from the drepublicans to the democrats, tomorrow, there is a face-off with the debate on saturday, and that will be a wrap-up on that hosted by wolf blitzer tomorrow at 111:00 p.m. , where to go... and how to deal with my uc. to me, that was normal. until i talked to my doctor. she told me that humira helps people like me get uc under control and keep it under control when certain medications haven't worked well enough. humira can lower your ability to fight i

. >> as a preteen she was reading barry goldwater. jill very young to be reading that. did not read those books as a teenager. she had a high school teacher who was very conservative who is influencing her in the other direction. >> she did have some conservative teachers, but so did all of us. i don't think that teacher had a profound influence, no more so than her father. but it was enough to have her looking in those directions politically, but not so much internally. i wouldn't say the teachers had more influence on her than the youth ministers at the methodist church, or her mother. >> she wanted to have equilibrium. she used a carpenter's level as a visual to say keep the bubble in the middle. she also wanted to warn her, never get divorced, because she, dorothy rodham, her parents had been divorced and they abandoned her. so hillary never agreed to give the president of divorce, even though at one point he wanted it. the other amazing thing about hillary was when she met martin luther king, introduced by don jones, the methodist minister. she heard him in chicago

take a republican presidential candidate who would make some republicans yarn for the success of barry goldwater. it would take a complete wipeout at the presidential level. that could happen in a couple of ways. henry's analysis is really terrific. i have a couple of cautions. i believe the anger level for a substantial number of we know among other things that anger is driving the electorate more than we have seen before. it is anger at the other party more than support for one's own party. on the republican side, there is a lot of anger at the party's own establishment. some of that is driven by people making a lot of money by feeling ingt anger -- feeling -- fuel that anger. if you have a process were a significant number evangelical conservatives and fiscal conservatives feel was stolen again, the ted cruz theory they keep having defeat snatched from the jaws of victory by nominating a nice person who is just another democrat, we may see a turnout that is not quite as robust as before. the same thing would happen if you ended up with a ted cruz or donald trump or ben carson winning the nomi

. >> i agree more with one of the pollsters of this poll, i liken him to barry goldwater. a very strong minority within the party, and, you know, damn the consequences. they're going to make sure he's the guy. and regardless of whether or not he's actually electable, they're going to make sure they make a statement. so, i think that carson, you know, to a large extent, is the personification of the republican superego. he is the moral consciousness of that party as they see it. so when you have people pushing that narrative, and also, you know, add into the fact that his medical intelligence is something that they find appealing, it's no surprise that he's at the top. >> cillizza, what do you say? >> so, you were talking to chris jansing earlier in the show and she mentioned, and jamiel touched on this as well. the story is really, i think, appealing. this is someone who, it is an american dream story in many ways. >> right. >> so you can take a lot from ben carson, what he knows about the issues, but what you cannot take is the guy is a world-renowned pediatric neurosurge

think of every republican nominee since the end of world war ii with the notable exception of barry goldwater, every single one of them has been a sitting president, a current or former president, or -- a current or former vice president, excuse me a runner up of the previous nomination a son of a former president, or a commanding general of the most recently won world war. all of them in one of these five categories. it gets back to something i alluded to earlier, republicans historically are not early adopters. it's like your -- those comfortable ugly old bedroom slippers. they want to feel comfortable with someone, historically. but 2012 we started seeing some different behavior. and when you saw michele bachmann win the iowa republican straw poll, you know, when you saw herman cain shoot up to the top in the poll, suddenly, go through the cast of characters from 2012, but where republican voters seriously considered nominating some pretty inconceivable people. and again, it was totally against their stereotype of doing this and in the end, sure, they went back and nominated mitt romney wh

. >> rose: because of barry goldwater and then ronald reagan, first bill buckley, then ronald reagan,reagan was what was called a movement conservative. does that still exist? >> it does but even that is a bit fractured. i mean, they're one of the unlucky, lucky things about the old conservatism in america is there were so few of them that they could agree on three or four essential items. government spending should be lower not higher, taxes lower not higher, regulation lower not higher. >> rose: spending lower. yeah, you got it. it became complicated in the george w. bush when things started to fall apart. why did they start to fall apart? because there was great argument within the party about the wars that he felt it necessary. >> rose: he came to power saying he wanted to be a compassionate conservative. is conservatism compassionate? >> that's a wonderful question. it should be. it can be. it does not always look that way. conservatives can be pretty crabby folk, especially when they debate what conservatism is. look, we've got a party now that can say the conservative way to lo

you do basically a barry goldwater campaign against the other two guys.alk about jeb. you make it about oh my god we could have nuclear war with donald trump and putin will assassinate ben carson. and you know what? just stay safe. you do the lyndon johnson/barry goldwater ad. >> in that "the new york times" today the message is that marco is a risky bet. someone who has never been in charge of anything larger than two dozen people. so that's clearly the direction jeb is headed. >> there's a logic. if you really think about it, let's just go on saying he is born. he is just all this stuff. but what could actually happen if any of these other guys got their hands on the lever? that's where the $100 million is going to go. >> let's look at one of the guys that wants his hand on the lever. donald trump in springfield illinois drawing a crowd of 10,000 people. that's a record for the prairie convention center. he began with an impression of barry sanders after protesters interrupted donald with "feel the burn." >> first of all, a couple of young women took ov

he they are worried for sure loser for republicans and nomination will lead to barry goldwater blowouto they say that. >> who we're waiting on mainly the bush donor. the bush donor is sitting in him bow. a lot of cruz people and lot of rubio people, because it looks like rubio-cruz if trump falters, that is going to be, you know the go-between. i think a lot of donors are wondering which one do i choose. neil: van der sloot might have moved. >> isn't it scary, nicole, the whole modest operandi, on donald folding, not them winning? >> who knew? who knew? >> they have to wait for this guy, who has been playing with from the day he started running to fold and he hasn't. that is losing strategy. neil: they have been playing that. we watch, very, very closely. to inabout you up-to-date. frank van der sloot, billionaire donor, the manu haval in mitt romney campaign, cofinance chair, committed to marco rubio. he told me a few minutes ago on this show he thinks other billionaires might be holding their powder dry, keep their wallets shut but that sheldon adelson and koch brothers might soon fo

republican presidential candidate who would take -- make some republicans yearn for the success of barry goldwater. it would take a complete wipeout at the presidential level. that could happen a couple of ways. analysis isy's really terrific. i have a couple of cautions. i believe that the anger level out there for a substantial knowr of republicans -- we among other things that anger is driving the electorate more than we have seen before. it's anger at the other party more than it is support for one's own party. on the republican side, there is a lot of anger at the parties on establishment. some of that is being driven by a lot of people making a lot of money by feeling that anger. if you end up with the nomination process that is significant of a number of evangelical conservatives and fiscal conservatives believe was stolen from them yet again, the ted cruz theory that they keep having defeats snatched from the jaws of victory by nominating a nice person who was another turnout-we may see a that is not quite as robust as we have had before. the same thing obviously would happen if you ended

take a republican presidential candidate who would make some republicans yarn for the success of barry goldwater. it would take a complete wipeout at the presidential level. that could happen in a couple of ways. henry's analysis is really terrific. i have a couple of cautions. i believe the anger level for a substantial number of we know among other things that anger is driving the electorate more than we have seen before. it is anger at the other party more than support for one's own party. on the republican side, there is a lot of anger at the party's own establishment. some of that is driven by people making a lot of money by feeling ingt anger -- feeling -- fuel that anger. if you have a process were a significant number evangelical conservatives and fiscal conservatives feel was stolen again, the ted cruz theory they keep having defeat snatched from the jaws of victory by nominating a nice person who is just another democrat, we may see a turnout that is not quite as robust as before. the same thing would happen if you ended up with a ted cruz or donald trump or ben carson winning the nomi

think of every republican nominee since the end of world war ii with the notable exception of barry goldwater one of them has been a sitting president, a current or former president -- current or former vice president, excuse me, a runner up of the previous nomination, the son of a former president, or a commanding general of the most recent world war. it gets back to something i alluded to earlier that republicans have historically not been early adopters. it is like your -- those comfortable old ugly bedroom slippers. they want to feel comfortable. but 2012, we started seeing some different behavior. and when you saw michele bachmann win the iowa straw poll, when you saw herman cain shoot up to the top of the polls, then suddenly -- i go through all the cast of characters from 2012, but when republican voters seriously consider nominating some pretty inconceivable people. again, it was totally against their stereotype of doing this. in the and, sure, they went back and nominated mitt romney, who had been the runner-up. but it is only after they pursued every possible option and they were al

guys are doubting this because of the polls but, look, the republican party's history ever since barry goldwater that they wander through the wilderness and they have a love affair with pat buchanan and herman cain and michele bachmann and they always end up back at their most electable candidate. i don't think trump is electable, maybe carly fiorina is electable but i think they're still going to find their way back to bush or rubio. >> carly fiorina is a good candidate but she's now get ago tacked by the media and joe kernen -- ben carson is a nice man without much experience. wait till we get to march 1st when there are all those primaries. i think that may be the doom of these candidates who are leading now. but i concede they're doing a lot better than i thought they would. >> let me ask you guys a final question. do you believe jack kemp is the most important republican in the 20th century to have never been elected president? >> absolutely. there's no question about it. when you see what he achieved and that is mainly with his tax cuts but also with a model for the republicans but he crea

worse than watergate" and former white house counsel to then president richard nixon, also the barry goldwatercan institutions at arizona state university. mr. dean, nice to see you. >> thank you. >> so thompson's question and butterfield's answer precipitated president nixon's resignation that happened a year later. how important was thompson to the investigation and how did nixon view fred thompson? >> well, a lot of impact in that question. first of all, on the issue of discovering the tapes and the question he asked, that was actually as scripted as any television show he ever did years later. the hard work and the heavy lifting was done at the staff level. that's where butterfield revealed several days before he appeared before thompson that there was such a system, in an effort to undercut my testimony where i said i thought i had been recorded. so that was all very scripted when they put him on to try to nail it down and get a public statement of it, and they used the minority because there had been a minority staffer who actually asked butterfield the question. it turned out to be poli

a republican presidential candidate who would make some republicans yearn for the success of barry goldwater. it would take, a complete wipeout at the presidential level. that could happen in couple of ways. one way is, and here, you know, i think henry's analysis is really terrific. i have a couple of cautions. i do previous that the anger level out there for substantial number of republicans, we know, among other things that anger is driving the electorate more than we've seen before, anger more at the other party, more than support for one's own party but on republican side there is a lot of anger at the party's own establishment. some of that is being driven by a lot of people making a lot of money by fueling that anger. if you end up with nomination process a significant number of evangelical conservatives or even fiscal conservatives believe was stolen yet again, ted cruz theory they keep having defeat snatched from the jaws of victory by nominating nice person who is just another democrat, we may see a turnout that is not quite as robust as we've had before. the same thing obviously w

a george mcgovern and the democrats and barry goldwater.ncy in jimmy carter. maybe ben carson's our jimmy carter of this generation. the -- where jimmy carter rose up as the most honest guy out there or perceived to be. that's ben carson's strong -- so it was an unpredicted time and we near a similar period. >> it's really fascinated as we watch together. thank you. watch chuck's show here 5:00 p.m. eastern and sundays. >>> now to frances rivera checking the traffic on our bing pulse question of the day. and this goes to what chuck was talking about. the outsider issue for d.c. frances? >> that's right. asking you should a political outsider win the white house? 70% from the noes. that's dropping or growing. now 30%. interesting, though, even though this is lopsided, majority of the viewers think that's no, look at how we're graphing in realtime and while chuck was talking about it and ben carson having the depth and the dimension, you know, with the small donors, the money, the social engagement, as well. not too many people are saying no

think of every republican nominee since the end of world war ii, with the noble exception of barry goldwatersingle one of them has been a sitting president, a current or former president, current or former vice president, excuse me, a runner-up in the previous nomination, a son of a former president, or a commanding general of the most recently-won world war. all of them into one of these five categories. again it gets back to something i alluded to earlier, that republicans have historically not been early doers. they -- adopters. they want, like the ugly old bedroom slippers. they want to feel comfortable with someone historically. 2012 we started seeing some different behavior. when you saw michele bachmann win the iowa republican straw poll, when you saw herman cain shoot up to the top of the polls, suddenly, i go through all the cast of characters from 2012, but where republican voters seriously considered nominating some pretty inconceivable people. and again it was totally against their stereotype of doing this. in the end, sure, they went back and nominated mitt romney, who had been

we remember that when barry goldwater ran for president, ronald reagan gave a much-commented-on speech- mr. cannon: the speech. ms. woodruff: the -- in fact it was the -- that's right, that was the coming -- you can argue the coming-out speech for ronald reagan. and all of those forces, those disparate forces came together while he was still in the governor's office. and they gelled, more or less, in that year after, so that in -- when gerald ford was running for election -- he, of course, succeeded richard nixon -- in 1976, ronald reagan popped on the public consciousness as a very appealing, conservative potential challenger for gerald ford. mr. cannon: well, remember, he'd already run in 1968 for president. i have a story about nancy in the earliest presidential conversation. maureen reagan is writing her dad letters, and they communicated. they wrote all these letters back and forth, and she's trying to encourage him to run for governor. and she says she doesn't really know kind of how far down the road he is with this political thing, because she said, you know, you could be gover

by the time the barry goldwater nomination happened in the republican party, african-americans went all in with democrats. that does not mean they have voice but on one accord. >> host: we are going to continue our conversation with joy and reid talking about her new book fracture, brack obama, the clintons, and the racial divide but we want to get you involved. this is your opportunity to talk with an author, will put the numbers on the screen. 202 is a on the screen. 202 as they are called 748-8200 for the eastern's time zone. many other ways to get a hold of us. you can send a text message, this is not for phone calls, just text message, (202)717-968d include your city and first name so we can identify you that way. a few other ways, via social media you can make a comment on her facebook page on facebook facebook.com/book tv or send us a tweet at book tv. there's a variety of ways to have a conversation with us and with joy and reid. mr., tell me if i'm reading this wrong but you are a little critical of the president when it comes to supporting voting rights, is that a fair assessm

by the time the barry goldwater nomination happened in the republican party, african-americans went all-inith the democrats. that doesn't mean they're always on one accord. >> we'll continue our conversation with joy-ann reed, talking about the her new book, "fracture." we want to get you involved. this is opportunity to talk with an offer. we'll put numbers up on the between. 202-748-820000. live in east and central time zones. 748-8201 if you live in mountain and pacific time zones. many ways to get ahold of us if you can't get through the phone lines. you can send a text message. this is not for phone calls. this is text message. 202-717-9684. and if you would, include your city and your first name so we can identify you that way. couple other ways to get ahold of us today, via social media. you can make a comment on our facebook page, facebook.com/booktv. or, you can send us a tweet @booktv. so, those are, a variety of ways to have the conversation with us and with joy-ann reid. now, ms. reid, tell me if i'm reading this wrong, you're a little critical of the president when it comes to