he learned a lesson from barry goldwater, and also richard nixon, who suffered in 1962. ronald reagan handled the accusations against him, so he distanced himself from the society. he basically said, i stand by my views, they stand by theirs. he was very skillful in distancing himself from the society. >> did the john birch society change the republican party in any way? prof. mulloy: i think it helped them shift it to the right. it took a while for goldwater and the burgers to have that influence, but it moved it in a more conservative direction. it paved the way for reagan's eventual victory, the activism, energy, enthusiasm, and dedication to the cause. i think it really helped that side considerably to become a major part of the republican party. >> last question for you, can you tell me a little bit about the resources you used in your research? i understand there is a secret nature about them? prof. mulloy: yeah. a secretive organization. it does not allow independent researchers access to their archive. ironically, you can go to moscow and look at kgb archives, bu

barry goldwater knew many members personally and never repudiated them, but criticized the leadershipr conspiratorial beliefs. other conservatives, for example, bill buckley, one of the leading conservatives, came to see them as a liability to conservatism as a whole, detracting and splitting up the conservative movement. particularly after the goldwater defeat, the republican establishment determined they needed to get rid of the birchers. they were too much of a liability. 1965, they held a press conference and gerald ford was the public leader at the time. they said that the john birch society is not a part of the republican party anymore. they were kind of excommunicated. they kind of declined afterward. >> did ronald reagan have any particular views of the -- prof. mulloy: reagan is interesting, because he like goldwater knew many birchers personally. but he learned a lesson from barry goldwater, and also richard nixon, who tried to fight the berkshires -- the birchers, who suffered in 1962. ronald reagan handled the accusations against him, so he distanced himself from the socie

he learned a lesson from barry goldwater, and also richard who suffered in 1962. theld reagan handled accusations against him, so he distanced himself from the society. he basically said, i stand by my views, they stand by theirs. he was very skillful in distancing himself from the society. did the john birch society change the republican party in any way? prof. mulloy: i think it helped them shift it to the right. it took a while for goldwater and the burgers to have that influence, but it moved it in a more conservative direction. it paved the way for reagan's eventual victory, the activism, energy, enthusiasm, and dedication to the cause. i think it really helped that side considerably to become a major part of the republican party. canast question for you, you tell me a little bit about the resources you used in your research? i understand there is a secret nature about them? yeah.mulloy: temperatures are a secretive organization. it does not allow independent researchers access to their archive. ironically, you can go to moscow and look at kgb archives, but y

barry goldwater. this is he is talking about the this is barry goldwater. he is talking about the internal revenue service. mr. goldwater: thank you, mr. chairman. i want to speak first about the internal revenue service, and i am very happy that the chairman has mentioned this. someone on this committee has likened the cia like a bull elephant running rampant or the irs like a rattlesnake slithering along in the grass, probably the greatest threat to american freedom and americans and yet this morning, it is the first public indication that i have heard that the internal revenue service is going to be investigated, and i think it is time. >> mr. maxwell, what was the intent of bringing the irs into the investigation? mr. maxwell: i think the republican side encompassed the entire range of the political spectrum on the republican party, from mac matthias and dick schweizer. for barry goldwater, the irs was a snake and he wanted to make sure it was part of the investigation and not shunted aside. that was not part of the case for priorities for the other sen

he makes barry goldwater looks like a statesman. >> barry goldwater had an ideology. he had positions. >> his positions were dangerous. >> they may have been dangerous, but he knew what they were. >> trump said wall street would react positively. >> what do you make of how wall street has been reacting to what our military guys have been doing? >> i think wall street is waiting to see what happens. before the fact they are taking it a little bit for granted. it looks like a tremendous success from a military standpoint. i think this is really nothing compared to what you'll see after the war is over. >> what do you mean? >> i think wall street will go up like a rocket. >> that's not what happened but that's just predictions. >> what he says at one moment has nothing to do at the next. he called hillary wonderful at one point and now she's crooked. the people like his anger, popping people on the nose. they are not being driven be i is he an interventionist or is >> what he says at one moment has nothing to do at the next. he called hillary wonderful at one point and n

barry goldwater was in trouble from the start.t's kind of unfair that the late barry goldwater, whose views i'm critical of, back in '64, compare to trump. with trump, he's been all over the lot which means he not only faces opposition from democrats and independents, a lot of conservative, out there openly saying we don't trust his views either. because we don't know what they are. and in terms of women, yes, he's been able to get some votes among republican women. but his numbers among independent and democratic women are terrible. he's losing women in some polls by 20 or 30 points because women resist extremists. and all of that stuff you showed on the air is not going to excite them to vote for donald trump. so he has an enormous problem among women. >> i'll give you the last word on this. the question also is can members of the republican party align themselves with this person, with all of the things that he said, with all of the views on the bases that you said. this is also on the integrity of the republican party, no? >>

in 1964 johnson handily defeats barry goldwater. goldwater is trying to base his campaign on punishment. we need to stop these movements. johnson takes a more liberal approach. he wins easily. but then he launches the war on crime. he says crime is such a problem we need a massive federal response to it. part of that is about toughening sentences. a big piece of it is the safe streets act that he passes three years later. it's about more police. and more heavily armed police. this was a response to what was happening in the streets of the country. so many strong challenges in cities and towns around the country. johnson helps lay the foundation for this. it continues with richard nixon and ronald reagan. nixon runs in 1968 and he makes law and order the centerpiece of his campaign. he takes a lot of what barry goldwater was talking about and tries to build a whole platform of it. he said that we need to take a tough stand against the demonstrators. he helps launch the first wave of the war on drugs. reagan whose most famous for his

and then barry goldwater said something that i think was very disappointing. he said i think we should get that tape and play it on national television. i am making those comments a little bit in criticism of senator goldwater all of the other 10 senators constantly worked very hard and were very interested in all of our issues. was a purelyer partisan vote and in general was in great cooperation. i regarded myself as the chief counsel for the whole committee and not the chief counsel for the democrats. i felt i was chief counsel for the whole committee. senatoring about , senator schweiker i think had the best record of any doator of always wanting to what we thought was the most appropriate thing to do. >> will thank you for that background and introduction. today, the senate intelligence committee still has a reputation issues,ng in bipartisan so it is something with a historical context as a committee. so at this point, thank you to both of you for setting the stage for this part of the investigation. we are now going to show 40 minutes as the church commi

third, in 1960 barry goldwater, junior senator from arizona went to the podium at the chicago conventiont to take back the party let's go to work. he is the nominee four years later. he may have the sense that barry goldwater did that there is a movement out there that needs to be fueled to transform the party. >> i understand the argument she did it to obama. do you think it is hurting her? >> i don't think it is doing lasting damage. months from now people won't remember. >> i was going to ask you about that. how confident are you or how likely do you think it is that sanders gets on the podium and holds hands with hillary clinton and holds them up and much more importantly what about his millions of supporters? >> 80-20 he gets up on stage. >> look what we have today. the spokesman for two of the campaigns lie saying they are winning on hispanics. the spokesman for hillary clinton repeating her misleading statements about the email. it is why we now have a situation among the independents, minus 74%. neither one of the candidates are worth trusting. campaigns are not just about who wi

senator barry goldwater voted against it for libertarian reasons. he did not feel it was the governments job to tell a private business owner what to do. senator al gore senior voted against it because he opposed integration. if you had been in the senate, how would you have voted? i would have voted for it. no elaboration? >> no. >> mr. peterson -- >>. >> repeat the question. of 1964ivil rights act and a discrimination in the public and private sector. senator barry goldwater voted against it, feeling it was in the government's job to tell a private owner what to do. senator al gore senior voted against it because he opposed racial integration. how would you have voted had you been in the senate? >> you're asking whether or not i would have signed the civil rights legislation in 1964? yes, i would have signed it. peterson, would you have signed the civil rights act of 1964 which ended discrimination in the public or private sector? >> i would have filibustered until we abolished title ii and then we would have gotten rid of .he government discrimin

i want to play for you a campaign ad that lbj ad used in his presidential race against barry goldwater64 and then get your reaction to it. >> this man scares me. you know, maybe i'm wrong. a friend of mine said to me, listen, just because a man sounds a little irresponsible during a campaign doesn't mean he's going to act irresponsibly, you know that theory that the white house makes them mad. i don't buy that. >> the ad purports to be a republican talking about why he wouldn't vote for barry goldwater. some republicans, although clearly not enough, had a visceral reaction to donald trump. >> yes. i saw this and it is eerily familiar to the climate that we're experiencing with the presumptive republican nominee for president, that he, too, was bolstered by the kkk in a sense they recommended him and supported him and he does say one thing and then switch it and say another thing and switch it. i find it -- i find it remarkable and troubling that he's not responsible for what he's saying and i think your words do have consequences and they should be accountable. lbj might have looked at

i showed a slide where bar barry goldwater was running a slogan in your heart you know he's right.ndon johnson said in your gut you know he's nuts. anthony: my guess is when he wins the presidency he will assemble the right people. he's clearly a talented guy. when ronald reagan was running in 1980. everybody thought he was a joke, a stupid person, a b actor. i don't think anyone thinks trump is done. he's a smart guy and he managed a lot -- gary: much as you saw him getting the nomination when most people did not, you see him winning this election in november. >> sure. the rap was that trump has a ceiling of 0% with republicans. then 30, then 35. then he's winning in 50s and 60s. gary: there are a lot of people in gary's class that want to vote for him but are afraid to admit it. gary: your background in statistics and mathematics. you know what people say the numbers are and you just don't buy it. >> the polls until you get to the conventions don't mean anything. gary: our thanks to jeffrey gundlach for joining us. next week we'll be interviewing a who's who of global finance gia

there were certain republicans who staked out a position of opposition to barry goldwater, and there were a lot that went along because they wanted futures in the party and i pretty much remember them and nixon and all those people remember who they were. they're ones that stuck with the party. it's smart to stay with the party if you have a career. >> there's a lot of senators making that calculation. ben sass, marco rubio. they are not eager to get behind trump. >> what's the alternative? hear what the president said the other night, steak or fish. there's no third choice. you're in or out. and i think they're facing that. >> that's the face they all face right now. there's no good option here and you see republicans like mike salter already staking a claim and drawing a line and saying i'm with hillary and then there will be other republicans -- >> republicans will say that. >> there are national security republicans saying that. >> who? >> mark salter, one of them today -- >> i'm talked about elected officials. >> we haven't seen that but what you see with nagardner and sass, the

he never came out for lbj, but came out against barry goldwater. that was the compromise.rlie: you call acting a serious negotiation. what is the negotiation? anthony: you have two actors on a set, and you do not know how the other actor will work. and when or if he is going to respect the craft. you have to find yourself in a neutral position. you never want to get too big that you don't celebrate the joy of acting, but you always want to be humble enough to make sure you are chasing that great feeling. it's like hitting the great shot on the golf course. you are still chasing that one feeling. charlie: you remember how sweet it was. anthony: every single time. charlie: how was bryan cranston to work with? anthony: he was phenomenal. it was a career-affirming experience for me. i feel like this is the only way to sum up cranston. he was doing press for "trumbo" at the time. it had taken off and caught fire. he was supposed to go to london and to press, and i had to do a scene that was supposed to be between him and i over the phone. i learned he was not going to be there

will he have a hard time. >> the pick for barry goldwater. willy miller, a graduate from notre dame. the thing was his conservativism. with trump, he is controversial but not an idealogical figure. it will be easy for him to pick a chris christie. that is what the party establishment will warm him. >> i know you're a notre dame man. you got the plug in for the alma mater. i appreciate. that thanks for your time. coming up, why couldn't ted cruz click with republican voters at least enough of him and was his speech last night an exit from the 2016 or was it more of an entrance into the 2020 race? >> ronald reagan spoke of the purpose that defined our party then and that must unite and drive our party now. >> cruz invoking ronald reagan's name more than once. is he waiting for a reagan style come back. what reagan pulled off just four years from now. stay with us. i'm only in my 60's. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male a

conservatism can help move america forward and we teach them about william buckley, ronald reagan, barry goldwaterebate the professor and tell them why they're wrong on these liberal policies and that's where it starts. >> i just wish there really was americanism out there, eric. i think both parties have it wrong. the left, i am my brother's keeper. right, it's all about country first, the whole part of americanism you own your life. it's your life, your liberty, your happiness. you're not a sacrifice -- >> i think the kids have a lot of debt because of college tuition debt and worried about health care, don't always have coverage and that's why you see them saying -- this is not brainwashing. it's reality. >> america is exceptional and it will continuing to be exceptional. >>> coming up, actor scott baio joins us next. i wonder what scott thinks about george clooney saying this. >> there's not going to be a president donald trump. (sfx: glass breaking) (sfx:footsteps running) ♪music nice going spencer. i can't believe we broke old man hennessey's window correction dude, you broke. i just threw t

so this is the moment when you do exactly what barry goldwater did it. >> everybody will get to weigh in, but i want to go to ana just because you are a personal friend of marco rubio. and what i sensed from him having covered him now for a long time was he's really torn. he doesn't want to be disloyal, but he does not approve of whom the republican voters chose. >> marco is one of the most eloquent speakers i have ever met. he speaks two languages. i speak the same two languages. i had a very hard time parsing what he just said to in you regards to endorsing donald trump. i kept thinking maybe he's talking in code and i'm just not getting the code because you kept asking him the same question and he kept going around in circles about i'm going to -- i signed the pledge to endorse the nominee. i don't want to endorse or vote for hillary clinton. but somehow he couldn't get himself to say i support donald trump. i think it's pretty obvious that he is wrestling with it and it's because of temperament issues. it is because of siof ideologicd policy issues. the same reason that so many ot

howard baker, barry goldwater. matt matthias and richard striker. staff, bill miller, fritz schwartz curt smothers who i don't think is here. how did you get a committee like that? my answer is mike mansfield. he wanted this to succeed. and he wanted to set up a committee that he thought could go through this huge explosive hearing, these process, and do what he knew would have to be done to work together and sustain bipartisanship. that worked. this committee was working together. there was a single staff. we didn't have a republican staff and a democratic staff. bill miller came off the staff john sherman cooper, one of the saints of the senate and also a republican. and he had enormous prestige in that senate as a gifted staff member. and he was able -- he knew exactly what had to be done. he was an old hand. then i think you'd have to say that the executive branch, maybe with a little time, but they ended up in effect supporting what we were all doing. you have to give some credit to president ford who was not an idlog probably afraid of the con

third in 1960, barry goldwater, junior senator from arizona, went to the podium at the chicago conventionconservatives. if you want to take back this party, and i think we can, let's go to work. he's the nominee four years later. sanders could have been the nominee four years later or any time, but he may have the sense that barry goldwater did, that there's a movement out there that needs fueled to transform the party, and he may do it. >> do you think he's hurting her by staying -- i understand the argument that she did this to obama, so it's certainly right. do you think it's hurting her for him staying in the race? >> i don't think it's doing lasting damage. i think months from now, people won't remember this. >> i was going to ask you about th that. how confident are you or how likely do you think it is that sanders in the end gets on the podium and holds hands with hillary clinton, holds them up, and much more importantly, what about his millions of supporters? >> 80/20 he gets up on stage. she gets the lion's share of his voters. some of them might stay home. in the end, it doesn't

was poised to play an important role in the republican primary process for the first time since barry goldwater. dylan says it is a foregone conclusion that trump will win california now on june 7. in the news room, andria borba, kpix5. >> check out the front page of tomorrow's daily new york news. an elephant in the coffin with the caption dearly beloved, we are gathered here to mourn to gop. >>> on the democratic side in indiana tonight, bernie sanders upset if front runner hillary clinton, but he still faces an incredible uphill battle. >> i think while the path is narrow and i do not deny that for a moment, i think we can pull off one of the great political upsets in the history of the united states. >> sanders is challenging clinton to a debate right here in california later this month. no word on whether she is going to take him up on it. but, she will be back in the bay area friday for a fundraiser. >>> chopper 5 was overhead as hundreds of protesters swarmed city hall to support the frisco5. joe vasquez says things didn't go as planned. >> reporter: the plan today was to march down to c

it will make barry goldwater looks like he has a successful campaign. with trump they don't know what's going to happen. they don't know where he is going to come from and i'm going to win states like new york, estate which no republican would ever even campaign because he had no chance. you saw it two weeks ago i won by a landslide. against two people and the dishonest media when they say for five weeks ago or 10 weeks ago we would have 12 people and i would want to stay. i would win state -- south carolina. i won alabama kentucky, won them all. i won them all. i won missouri. i won them all and then i won florida in a landslide and they are saying -- i have 12 people against me. it's the biggest number of people ever to win that anybody can member ever. at 36, 30 and 42. i have these characters on television that don't have the brains. and they are dishonest and they are dishonest. he will say i have this victory were indeed everybody by a lot traded 50%, 14 people even now i have three people so we have three people. it's hard to break 50% when you h

the same thing that barry goldwater and them did. host: all right, james, got a lot out there.et's hear from our guest. matt schlapp: james, you successfully brought up two of our heroes, ronald reagan and barry goldwater. there are the end. i would say that ronald reagan , he did a couple of basic things. he was able to restore the spirit of the country, which was definitely lacking under president carter. it is almost like america had lost the sense of confidence. and i think ronald reagan brought that back. and he did a couple other very important things. he was able to get the economy humming, get it rolling again. create jobs in the economy. one of the things that we see is people bring up the deficit with ronald reagan a lot, which he grew viewed as a great bipartisan failure, what the thing that he really did do was increase revenues into the federal government. not that conservatives love the idea that revenues are coming into the federal government but , revenues came into the government because the economy taxes soe cut dramatically. so these are bipartisan that text

seats in picked up 37 1964 when barry goldwater was on the tickets.r these days when house is better sorted out. the first 15 seats the democrats need to get to 30 are easy. next 15 seats are hard. >> jennifer, what is your early dave juste question raised, how are these house members going to behave now? ofnifer: i do know that some the house members are concerned about the trump effect. the head of ano anti-trump super pac, make america awesome, and she says they have not been doing very might shift ears away from fighting trump because some of her consultants have gotten 911 calls from their house clients who have said, you've got to help me because i'm in trouble, trump is dragging me down in my house district. the super pac is possibly disbanding. people need their help elsewhere. could there be a big wave? there arebut i know districts very concerned about this, places where they are worried. -- paul ryan is taking it very seriously. i talked to his allies today. they said he has fundraisers in almost every competitive district. he has raised $3

i did a fox special on campaigns in which strategists claim senator barri bar barry goldwats chancesnning were badly damaged by this ad. they still rave about this ad. it ran only once, but was talked about so much on tv, it changed all campaign. it was the first negative ad to use raw fear and emotion. >> these are the stakes. we must either love each other or we must die. >> vote or die. pretty relevant. john: but pretty unfair. >> oh, gee. john: political advisor mark mckin none mocked me for suggesting the ads should be more fair. michael dukakis made the mistake of wearing a helmet in a photo-op. he didn't want to wear the helmet. he understood that wasn't going to be a good television shot. reporter: consultant steve murphy worked for dukakis. they said he wouldn't ride the take without the helmet. >> now he want to be commander-in-chief. john: dukakis lost in a landslide. bob beckle said he has couple with some great lines like this one for walter mondale accidentally. when beckle ran mondale's campaign he happened to see this wendy's ad. it said they give more beef. you were

barry goldwater was absolutely outside of republican establishment.r heading into the 1964 convention but bitterly opposed by rockefeller forces within the republican party. republican establishment seemed like it was out of gas. they seemed to be on retreat. '64 goldwater dominated. his forces pretty much amassed through shows of strength of primaries and working with state and local primaries they were clearly going to be majority heading into the convention. establishment realizes too late. and attempted to marshall forces to block goldwater at the convention. >> moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. [cheers and applause] >> pat buchanan was advisor at that point, you know, pat, if anybody ever tells you we have to stop person x, immediately put all your money on person x, trying to lock the barn door after the horse is already gone is very difficult thing. and in the case of '64, moderates got their act together way too late. didn't read the tea leaves correctly and ended up trying to stop something that was pretty much unstoppable. >

there had been no draft goldwater committee, there would have been no presidential candidate barry goldwater in 1964. if there had been no candidate goldwater in 1964, there would have been no president-elect, ronald reagan, in a 1980. it was goldwater, you see, what famous time for choosing, the tv address that made him a political star overnight, and made his run for governor of california, and eventually, president of these united states. david recounts how bill rusher shored up the goldwater committee with -- when money ran short and the spirit sacked. youngully guided americans for freedom in his early, chaotic days. some order and discipline against the blithe spirits who ran "national review." he had the tv program "the advocates." ronald reaganned when other conservatives were somewhat skeptical about the actor turned politician. bill rusher loved american wines,, traveling "national lands, and he said, often the most exasperating people are -- this is a splendid, overdue il graffiti of bill rusher. -- dr.k is a former teaching at the alexander center in new york. pleaseand gentlemen

. >>> john dean, former white house counsel to president nixon and now barry goldwater chair of american institutions at arizona state university teaches a class on watergate and the discovery of the nixon white house taping system. in june, 1973, during testimony before the senate watergate committee, mr. dean implicated president nixon and administration officials, including himself, in the watergate cover-up. mr. dean later pleaded guilty of obstruction of justice for his role in watergate and served four months in prison. this class is about an hour and ten minutes. >>> discovering the taping system, was it lucky or inevitable is what we're looking at in this lecture. the nixon taping, the whole story of the nixon tapes has been only partially told. it has taken me years to gather and find out what happened. and since it is one of the most important factors in the watergate story, i think it is important to get that history straight. and we're going to try to do that in a summary fashion today. before i start, i would like to remind you that other presidents did tape, starting with f

>> if you go back you have to remember that jackie robinson left the republican party because barry goldwater came out in print in the national review and said that the south has a good reason to subborn the idea of segregation. >> just -- >> you own that base. >> overwhelming the republican senators voted for the civil rights bill. >> they did. george wallace walked out of the american party and the american constitution party. they've been there since wallace. this candidacy has reinvented itself and has been revived every generation. trump is the latest guy. >> i was talking to some trump associates and i said what's next and they said look for trump to come to washington, d.c. if not in the next week, the next few days and start to build the relationships and repair the party. it's about the washington establishment that's warming to him, chilliness. >> there were certain republicans who staked out a position of opposition and there were a lot that went along because they wanted futures in the party and i pretty much remember them and nixon and all those people remember who they were. it'

he started in 1984 for barry goldwater and retired and basically gave the same speech. bernie basically has "the" speech. the question is, will he turn his cannons on the plutocrat, mr. trump, who represents the billionaire class, or his opponent. >> there's the candidate and his wife, jane, on stage, getting a rapturous response. bernie sanders on this, a very big night for him, winning the state of virginia. >> west virginia. >> west virginia, sorry. >> so many people, this is their first campaign ever. don't forget, a lot of old people, so many young people. >> let's listen into bernie sanders. [ cheers and applause ] >> thank you! thank you, salem. [ cheers and applause ] >> hello! [ cheers and applause ] thank you! salem, thank you! [ cheers and applause ] and it sure sounds like salem, oregon, is ready for the political revolution! [ cheers and applause ] . >> this is a great turnout and i want to thank all of you for being here. let me begin by giving you all some pretty good news. [ cheers and applause ] last week -- last week we won a really great victory in in