deal democratic ideals in private conversation well into the 1950s going so far, according to barry goldwater's recollection, of calling him a fascist suspect o.b. when -- s.o.b. when he first met goldwater who were friends of his second wife's parents, loyal davis, in phoenix in the early 1950s. he moved over to the right as he became aware that the democratic party was leafing its ideals -- leaving its ideals as he understood them behind. and he had understood those ideals as using government to help the average person. but you instead began to see the democratic party was interested in power for its own sake, a centralizing vision that made government and socialization of america its animating goal rather than providing assistance to people who needed assistance to overcome obstacles or petty tyranny in their private or in their public lives. and reagan was a very smart man. and he was minute who read incessantly -- somebody who read incessantly. he read when he was a child, he read on movie sets, he read when he was working for general electric on long train trips since he was aa grade of f

>> barry goldwater did that despite the fact that nixon's support among his die hard voter was not gonethe same question second round. if trump was to find a way to pardon himself, the there was a lawsuit and he won the lawsuit in one of the federal courthousings and he's continuing to serve. but the republicans continue to serve a president who essentially admitted to crimes and pardoned himself? if he pardoned himself, that is admission of gift. you would see the house move to. republicans were elected by republican voters largely. they don't get additional votes by coming out against donald trump. i was a moderate republican member of congress and i remember an adviser saying to me, you might be in favor of marriage equality, but you're not going to get any extra votes for that, you're just going to lose votes. the republicans are faced with a quandary right now. if they come against donald trump, they're not going to get additional votes for that at home. the democrats aren't going to move to paul ryan and yet he's going to lose the base of republicans that elected him. hopefully at

the goldwater rule was named after arizona senator and 1964 presidential candidate barry goldwater. ne sent out a survey to 100 psychiatrists, who labeled goldwater psych atically unfit for office. after losing the election badly, barry goldwater successfully sued the publisher and then the rule was instituted, prohibiting psychiatrists from commenting on public figure these had not personally evaluated. a new email members are free to comment about political figures as individuals. the group which represents a broad range of mental health experts later clarified, saying that doctors can comment, but still not diagnose. to keep things clear the american psychiatric association sent us a email sent us a group saying the group stands firmly behind the goldwater rule, our position has not changed. a upcoming book "the dangerous case of donald trump" 27 psychiatrists and mental health experts assess a president. joining me now is one of those sigh psychiatrists and dr. gorg, what purpose is served by the goldwater rule? >> well, thanks for having me here. the purpose of the goldwater rul

and he ran for a barry goldwater seat and won it.o you think that barry goldwater would have broken with his party and voted with the party basically of chuck schumer to defeat the republican cause? the cause on which they had run, michael? for heaven's sakes. i don't blame john mccain's heroism. i hope he survives this thing he is fighting, and i congratulate him for the guts coming back. he did something and he stuck it to his party and i don't know why he did it. other than the fact i think he's liberated. he's a free man, and he's going to tell us who he is i think we saw who he was on the floor of the house. that's his legacy, that's what he wants and that's what he will have. >> patrick, you worked in three white houses, as i mentioned during the course of the introduction. >> that's right. >> do you think that steve bannon is long for this political world in this house? how in the face of what scaramucci told ryan lizza could steve bannon continue to maintain face, and continue to serve this president? >> my question is how th

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is the most controversial, the high priest of reaganism that ronald reagan is little more than barry goldwaterand the man dedicated of the overthrow of the new deal as goldwater and are today's libertarians. in fact, nothing can be further from the case. from the earlier days of conservative ronald reagan, exhibited fidelity to the core innovations of the new deal in the sense that government at local and state level, if necessary, but in federal level possible that a federal level if necessary should ensure that americans have hand up in american life and that everyone has a chance to live a life of their own choosing even if it requires government assistance. i will move to the second part, explaining why republicans have lost their way and how it is that in a very odd sense donald trump has recaptured some, not anywhere all, but some of the original reagan insight and consequently it's no surprise that ronald reagan and donald trump are the only two people who were republican nominees in the last 40 years to win dramatically among whites without a college degree and in the midwest and winni

you have to say this isn't about partisan politics this is about that speech was un-american if barry goldwaterhad given a blood and soil speech in one thousand nine hundred sixty four at the republican convention william f. buckley would have disowned him i mean. i'm not going to get any disagreement from either you guys i'm innocent ok all right eighteen states and the district of columbia are suing education secretary betsy devolves for delaying the implementation of rules meant to protect the victims of for profit college scams like the failed trump university those protections which were put in place by the obama administration make it easier for people who were defrauded by their college to get loan forgiveness they were supposed to go into effect on july first but why why do we even have for profit colleges these are engines of fraud we don't why don't we just make college free like they've done all across europe and most of the rest of the world and and by the way this rules pacifically i read the rule today this rule specifically says that you have to have to have i forget the phrase l

buckley barry goldwater they honored education and it's become captured by a fossil fuel industry and a right wing whack job specifically a fossil fuel industry that says don't believe that science on climate change and right wing whack jobs who specifically say don't believe that science on evolution science is bad take science of the textbooks let's build museums to hating science it just i mean. and it's just happened in the last two years is the amazing thing you look at the graph of republican approval of college and you have to six fifty six fifty six percent boom thirty very there is a very very simple explanation for that and it's because college campuses have become bastions of intolerance like actual the whole idea of safe spaces of thought police of people not being able to engage in the intellectual dialogue that makes college important in people some that happen anywhere i see what i see i see i usually socks story say. why shut concerned national is a right winger wants to bring another right white nationalist right winger onto a college campus pays for the room and then

our twenty fifth amendment article four of that twenty fifth amendment and it happened after barry goldwater was trashed by a pictorial news magazine that doesn't even exist anymore and they had a bunch of psychologists and psychiatrists come in and say that he was crazy that was mentally unfit to be president as you know very goldwater was never that actually elected president but where he was victorious was in a lawsuit against that magazine that ultimately resulted in the quote unquote goldwater rule that we know today that says that you cannot diagnose a sitting public president president without any sort of clinical nation. you know robert on the legal merits of what's going on in congress i mean there was an inevitability that they were going to try to do this as jeanne is just pointed out the russian collusion story is lost a lot of air here but you know if you look at the entirety of the. the twenty fifth amendment i mean there is criminal wrongdoing we don't have any mr meanings or high crimes can at least they can't prove it but they want to start a process of impeachment without a

craig, when we think about reagan and the republican party, conservatism, i think i go back to barry goldwater to '674, -- '64. to reagans where famous speech. for the sake of the audience, explain to us how he comes to being? one of the great distinctions between reagan and trump is that reagan has a strong political history before he challenges the party establishment. >> that's right. well, he has already had a lot of executive experience as head of the screen actors guild. a couple years ago, reagan negotiated the residuals which became important to a lot of old retired actors and actresses our of work who are still getting stipendses and residuals from the work they had done in tv and movies years ago. because the studios would pay the -- the previous system was the studios would pay the actors and actresses one time to appear in a tv show or movie and then they could rebroadcast it and pocket all the royalties women immunity. reagan negotiated residuals so their images and voice some their acting wasn't sold without compensation to them. reagan did that. i was having lunch with fred barn

and what they were so flipped out about was social security but that was because barry goldwater wanted to end social security and there was no way he could even talk about it i don't think we're ever to see medicaid medicare cut i don't think we're ever see so security gutted at all and only in d.c. i think those sort of new should you said well in d.c. if you don't add to a program is that considered a cut it's a bizarre world that we live in here in d.c. but ultimately no what has to happen is it ok you keep those existing programs sure you're adding to them but you're also trying to find a way for people to be able to afford these these other programs whether or not like health insurance whether or not that's the case it's a different story and frankly this latest iteration of bill i'm just fascinated by the political philosophy of the whole thing but anyway the koch brothers in the utility lobby are waging a war on solar power as a new york times reports the slight decline in home solar installations over the last year is in large part due to a wave of legislation aimed at crushing

that even barry goldwater did not support on this and the editorial says that the white race could continue to determine policy itself. because what do we mean by advanced? x have the human mind administration, and they tell people they're getting another event. >> that's what he's arguing. and he says that only when the southern people are coming around and see that education has been extended to the point where we can have a biracial government, how shall it be? you're a conservative in 1957 and you live outside south, that would have appalled you. certainly in appalled eisenhower and nixon and nixon was trying to push in 1957 the civil rights bill at which did pass. >> but the one that made it effective was somebody now saying lyndon johnson, he put something in and had the voting rights revision and put in a jury amendment. >> he said if you're accused of stopping voting rights, and you have to have a jury trial by your peers. who's going to convict a southern registrar for denying the american right to vote? it was a nothing bill that happened at the last minute but that editorial, if

charlie: that is like when barry goldwater went to the president and said, you have to go. peter: right. people stuck with nixon for a long time. torlie: i want to come back mueller, because that seems so crucial. there is also talk that the secretary of state thinks -- or at least there are sources saying he is not happy and he is considering whether he is in the right place? andrew: i cannot speak to his headspace, but i can speak to -- between racks tillerson and there have been huge classes over staff. we saw a blowout into the press, there was a meeting where rex tillerson exploded at the head of personnel. there have been huge clashes over staff. what i am also hearing is that rex tillerson's voice on foreign policy to the point that it encroaches on national security is not a powerful voice. donald trump listens to james mattis more than anyone else, perhaps more than anyone else in the cabinet. group ofomes to that people try to influence the president on foreign policy, rex tillerson has waning influence. charlie: who is on those side about firing sessions, maybe l

it was barry goldwater that told nixon he needed to go.mccain not only cast a courageous vote, but probably provided cover for i don't know how many other senators who knew that this was a deeply unpopular flawed piece of legislation that the process, the policy, the politics were all very flawed. and that he provided them some cover. but you know we will see. i do get a sense that this was a turning point this week. lisa murckowski standing up against the threat from the interior secretary. the push back against the talk of getting jeff sessions. passing the russian legislation, the pushback on the transgender order. you almost got the sense that republicans are realizing okay, this is their moment they have to push. >> so john meecham, i have to ask if there is anything as parallel to anything in talk and campaigning, any political party that has had house, senate, white house going into a vote so elemental? >> i can't think of a specific one. there are broad trends that that unfolds. the republicans growing uncomfortable with deficits,

. >> i think it is. 1960, 57 years ago, barry goldwater wrote the original "conscience of a conservative he felt republicans had been compromised by the new deal. i think we are at risk of being compromised by things like intense nationalism and populism, protectionism, isolationism. anti-immigration fervor. these things are detrimental in the long term. i don't think populism is the governing philosophy if we want to stay in the majority as republicans, if you want to accomplish conservative things. we need to change. >> bret: whited donald trump win so big over 17 other candidates in the republican primary? >> populism is called populism for a reason. it's usually popular. once you get off the sugar high, the results aren't good. we held the majority as republicans from 2001 22006. most of that time i was in the congress and house, and we lost it, we lost majorities in the house, senate, and a 2008 we lost the white house. i think we had kind of lost our way as conservatives. this situation we are in today is not just the result of this president or this last campaign. it's been a long

let's go back to the goldwater rule. 1964, partisans tried to bring down barry goldwater by calling himthe american psychiatric association said in 1973 that after a lawsuit was brought by goldwater, physicians, especially psychiatrists, cannot speculate on something they see over a camera, a patient they haven't examined, someone that they have no clue about, it's unethical. s it's immoral. it is stigmatizing. as a matter fact, the reason i bring it up is that theit committee is supposed to be composed of psychiatrists, physicians. what are they going to do, exactly? are they going to haul him in for an examination? you are watching over the television. he's reacting to being blasted. "washington post," "new york times," cnn always saying negative things so if he's a little defensive, what do you expect? no sign of mental instability and we can't speculate about such things. it's unethical. >> kimberly: isn't it the natural reaction that if someone is making false accusations and attacking you constantly that you might want to defend yourself and call them out to call them fake news es

you're a conservative, ronald reagan and barry goldwater, have to be rolling over in their graves right now, that this -- that president trump with this behavior is carrying the flag for the conservative movement or the republican party or however you want to characterize it, this is not presidential, it -- again, one tweet is -- does not change everything. and by the way, i acknowledge, i think i said yesterday that this is still popular with his supporters, right? 80% of republicans still support the president in approval polls, that doesn't mean it's presidential, and that doesn't mean this had is helping anybody solve the many challenges that are facing the people that voted for him. >> i think he is doing that. i think he's -- the tweet that boris just read from friday, is quite clearly, he's working on this. >> i mean, i don't know -- >> we have to leave it there, gentlemen. we have plenty to discuss, we hope you will stick around and join us later tonight. thank you so much for the time, appreciate it. >> thanks. >>> coming up, repeal now, replace later, the president doubling ba

. >> with the candidacy of barry goldwater the republican party is on the way back and who knows mayone day go forwards. >> the accessibility was tame, more controlled. more dry. it was witty but not really challenging the power structure. >> our top story tonight president ford is on the stubborn we call coal. >> "saturday night live" was making fun of tv. >> this idea of satire on the news we needed it. vietnam was going on. had just been through watergate. the idea we could laugh at the people making the news is a nice formula. >> let's look at the top story, shall we. >> he buys himself an inflatable child. this story and more coming up on weekend update. >> weekend update was initially a rerence. about a reverance. a middle finger at the powers that be. >> update was cathardic for people who saw the establishment i don't think they took update seriesiously. it was a relief. >> neil armstrong caught his ring on a barn door while jumping off truck was quoted as saying one small step for man a giant ahhhhh ahhh! >> it was kind of a parody of a newscast. and it was a joke basket. is

now this awful flaw which end upbringing the country to what barry goldwater said one of the worst cries kept me on my toes. he was a challenge. >> dickerson: peter, you've written about clinton bush, obama, do you have a theory of the presidency that has -- that is emerged >> i had a theory that has been blown to. we make them out to be very different characters because of politics idealology. the fact that bill clinton, george w bush and barack obama had much more in common they would ever want to admit. but the dynamic, the desires and motives were not that different. and then along comes donald trump i have to say my changed entirely. so different than the other three. that it makes me think that it's not always the same. maybe they are very vast differences in the nature of people in that office or at least there is now. >> dickerson: reading your book, the stories of britain and tied to europe, it's happening right now. >> absolutely. and you know, the ironic thing is that thanks to what happened to all these european leaders coming to london, that was the beginning of the european

barry goldwater's staff wanted him to make an issue of it.e to al gore received george w. bush's private debate briefing book. he turned it over immediately to the authorities. in 2008, john mccain forbid his staff from using an ad that referred to barack obama's former pastor jeremiah wright, or to raise that issue in any other way. he believed it was a sneaky way to use obama's race against him. in 1968, lindon johnson's team had wiretaps that proved candidate nixon was working to block the vietnam peace talks, but they believed it immoral to use the covert information to expose nixon. said secretary of state dean rusk the moment we cross over that divide we're in a different kind of society. they were worried about something more than vising. victory. politics is not the nicest business, but there are still times when people do the right thing. we'll be back in a moment. >> dickerson: we'll be right back with more on "face the nation," includes a new book about "apollo 8" and more from our panel. stay with us. >> dickerson: welcome back to

second, i remember the gross abuse of psychiatry when my man, barry goldwater, for whom i cast my firstresidential vote, was running for president in 1964 and a whole slew of psychiatrists diagnosed him from a distance as having all kinds of authoritarian and other disagreeable behaviors and tendencies. i didn't want to engage in that. i'm just going by the evidence that the president continues to put in front of us in torrential amounts. >> and your recommendation at the close of your column is, quote, for the public to quarantine this presidency. how can the public do that? >> well, the public has to communicate to their elected representatives that the elected representatives have more to fear from the public, from their constituents, than they do from mr. trump. that is the public has to say we have taken this man's measure, and we find him alarming, and we want you to be on our side, the side of our alarm and our rational fear rather than the normal tendency to defer to presidents on important matters, particularly war and peace. i mean it's one thing for him to wander around and s

. >> with the candidacy of barry goldwater, the republican party is on the way back.ho knows, it may even go forward. >> the sensibility was more tame, in a sense, more controlled, more dry. it was witty, but wasn't really challenging the power structure. >> our top story tonight, president ford has finally over that stubborn week-long cold. ♪ stubborn week long cold >> before "saturday night live," everything was so schmaltzy. >> this idea satirizing the news. we needed is it. vietnam was going on, we had just gone through watergate. >> let's take a look at the top story, shall we? >> buys himself an inflatable child. this story and more coming up on weekend update. >> weekend update was initially about reverence, about a middle finger to the powers that be. >> for an on the spot report let's go to lorraine at the blaine hospital. >> update was cathartic for people that saw the hypocrisy in the establishment. i don't think people took update seriously. it was a release. >> first man to walk on the moon, neil armstrong, lost a finger when he jumped from a truck and ca

barry goldwater led the delegation to richard nixon to tell him he needed to go.y cast a courageous vote, i think he through himself on the political grenade of this toxic legislation. probably provided coverage for other senators who knew it was a deeply unpopular, flawed piece of legislation, that the process, the policy, the politics were all horribly fle flawed and he provided them some cover. but i do get a sense what it was a turning point this week. lisa murkowski standing up against the threat from the interior secretary, the pushback against getting rid of jeff sessions, passing the russia sanctions legislation, you almost got the sense that republicans are realizing this is their moment, they have to push. >> so, john meachem, my question is, is there any parallel, for a political party to have consumed eight years worth of talk and campaigning, any parallel to a political party that's had house, senate, white house, going into a vote so elemental? >> i can't think of a specific one. there are broad trends that unfold. the republicans growing comfortable

i remember the gross abuse of psychiatry when my man barry goldwater whom i cast my first presidentials running in 1964 and a whole slew of psychiatrists diagnosed him from a distance. i didn't want to engage in that. i'm just going by the evidence that the president continues to put in front of us in torrential amounts. >> your recommendation at the close of your column is for the public to gakwar quarantine thi presidency. how can they do to that? >> the elected representatives have more to fear from the public than they do from mr. president trump. the public has to say we find him alarming and we want you to be on our side rather than the normal tendency to defer to presidents on important matter, particularly war and peace. it's one thing for him to wonder around and say my gosh who knew health care was complicated. it's another thing when he's dealing with north korea, the south china sea, the ukraine, crimea and all the rest when the use of force is involved because that requires a, a certain confidence on the part of the public to support a president and because the normal chec

charlie: that is like when barry goldwater went to the president and said, you have to go.eter: right. people stuck with nixon for a long time. devcon charlie: until after the supreme court had spoken. i want to come back to mueller, because that seems so crucial. there is also talk that the secretary of state thinks about -- or at least there are sources saying he is not happy and he is considering whether he is in the right place? jonathan: i cannot speak to his headspace. what i can't speak to is the -- probablynsions too soft a word -- between rex tillerson and particularly his chief of staff, there have been huge clashes over staff. we saw a blowout into the press, there was a meeting where rex tillerson exploded at the head of presidential personnel. there have been huge clashes over stuff. what i am also hearing from sources in the room is that rex the extent voice to that encroaches on national security is really not a very powerful voice in this administration. donald trump listens to james , atis more than anyone else bubbly than anyone else in his entire cabinet.

barry goldwater. who will he defeat in the republican primaries? nelson rockefeller. in many ways, the politics of oil working its way into the politics of the republican party. rising importance of the oilmen on the domestic front. when chaos disrupts globally and disrupts american abilities to extract oil from abroad, domestic reserves in alberta and alaska offshore are all going to become much more important, raising the importance of the independent oilmen. that is what we are going to see in the economics of this. the oilsands project will continue to develop. a total of 178 billion barrels estimated at that point. as we mentioned earlier, this is the keystone pipeline, which is still very much a hot button issue for us, designed to take oil from the athabasca fans, down to the gulf coast. this is a long-term vision and there will be a much more involved culture war of politics in the 1970's in which family values and fuel values are all going to combine to intensify and polarize the american political landscape. ok, this is bringing us to the end. we will have t

. >> rose: that's like what happened when republicans went to barry goldwater and said you have to go. >> people stuck with nixon for a long time. >> rose: after the supreme court spoke. >> right. >> rose: back to mueller, because that's central, there is also talk that the secretary of state thinks about or at least trr sources saying that he is not happy and is considering whether he's in the right place. >> i can't speak to his head space. what i can speak to is the very real -- tensions is probably too soft a word between rex tillerson and particularly his chief of staff margaret in the white house. there have been huge clashes over staff. we saw that blow out into the press. a meeting where rex tillerson exploded at the head of presidential personnel. there have been huge clashes over stuff. what i'm also hearing from sources in the room is rex tillerson's voice on foreign policy and to the extent it encroaches on national security is really not a very powerful voice in this administration. donald trump listens to james mattis more than anyone else. probably more than anyone else

barry goldwater, john stennis. these are people, these young people won't know.gary hart, sam nunn. all these great folks, and in the house people at served in world war ii who were amazing people, conservative democrats who i loved, unless aspen, secretary of defense, he was a brilliant defense think of. and it was a time when republicans and democrats, there was no difference because we all out to defeat the communists, and we did. >> host: and unity of the site of it when you did the budget. >> guest: than i did the budget and understood pentagon reform and i took, the whole thing, get it was, i was in an iconoclast because i was one of people about the hammers can the screwdriver and the ridgesthat cost tens of thousands of dollars and i said we should reform the pentagon says invite the reformed system. you weren't supposed to say that pic you supposed to look past the bit i work with ron, and liberal democrat to reduce the procurement of the b-2 bomber which i thought we didn't really need in the middle of a nuclear war. its job was to fly in the soviet uni

tribune and he had written interestingly enough the editorial that endorsed lyndon johnson over barry goldwater and you head two journeymen speech writers, bill and -- the most remarkable speech-writing staff. ben and i were in awe of them as their talents because we were locally speech writers. pat began his remarkable career with nixon or, as as he called him the old man in 1965, when he became mr. nixon roz writer, researcher, briefer, traveling campaign aide, and along with his current book, which i knowow have all purchased, you really have to buy his other book think greatest comeback, where chronicled this remarkable period that pat worked with president nixon from 1965 to 1968, when he worked so one-on-one with richard nixon closely during this comeback period where richard nixon rose from the political dead to become -- return to become president of the united states. it's really remarkable book. the white house pat was not only the conservative -- a premier political strategist for the president. no other single person in my judgment had the same shrewd, creative insight into the amer